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pba1817 06-11-2007 05:57 PM
Very fast race by a great horse who is got some serious breeding lines in him...

The weight matters, especially on the Turf, Polytrack, and Cushion, conventional dirt doesn't seem to have a big effect. Take a look at it in the future for reference..

pba1817 06-11-2007 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
So a thousand pound horse is affected by a few pounds, or roughly less than 1% of it's own weight. Sorry, not buying it.
I would like to hear your view..

If weight doesn't matter as you say, why do they handicap the more accomplished runners? Why do they give weight for age, why do they give fillies a weight break vs boys? And why do they give apprentice Jocks weight breaks to start their careers?

2Hot4TV 06-11-2007 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
So a thousand pound horse is affected by a few pounds, or roughly less than 1% of it's own weight. Sorry, not buying it.
Thats the argument.

TitanSooner 06-11-2007 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Just so I know, then say you are 180 pounds, you mean to tell me if I put a 1 pound weight on you, or roughly the same amount of weight as Lava Man was giving the others, that it is going to matter many lengths? Like I said, sorry, not buying it.
Running a mile and a quarter?? you bet it does.

TitanSooner 06-11-2007 07:32 PM
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So you blame the weight also? I guess I saw a very nice performance by After market and Lava man. AM was just better on Saturday. I didn't know there was a whole other world of built in excuses now. Thanks guys!!!
I don't believe I said that was his excuse..

I simply responded to your claim that a 180 pound person running a mile and a quarter wouldn't be slowed down by carrying an extra pound.

Why do you think runners wear very light clothing and lighter shoes?

To deny this is plain ignorance and/or denial.

TitanSooner 06-11-2007 08:26 PM
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I never said the 180 pound person would be running a mile and a quarter, it's not a fair comparison. Maybe a quarter mile would be more fair, do you think a person would be weighed down running a 1/4 mile carrying 1 extra pound?
yes

ceejay 06-11-2007 08:31 PM
Does weight matter? Sure, but for me it's low on the list.

There also may well be a difference between real jockey "live" weight and "dead" lead weight.

TitanSooner 06-11-2007 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ceejay
Does weight matter? Sure, but for me it's low on the list.

There also may well be a difference between real jockey "live" weight and "dead" lead weight.
That's gospel right there.


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