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Cajungator26 05-22-2007 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterB
Todd is gasping for air, the owners just want a win, now they got a chance. Save her for where she belongs. She is a lady, not a stud.

She will lose the Belmont if she enters, and may not ever recover after it. Filly's are not colts, and they learn to lose after a hard battle they don't win.

LMAO

This post is pretty ridiculous. Thanks for the laugh.

MisterB 05-22-2007 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
where do you get your information? and how does it makes sense to say that they 'got a chance' but to 'save her for where she belongs'??? if she doesn't belong, how have they got a chance?
how could she not ever recover? that's ridiculous!


oh, and i guess someone forgot to tell ouija board she was never supposed to win again, after those hard-fought but losing battles vs colts. gimmeabreak!!

Maybe Cannon shell can tell ya about this. Filly's are tough to bring back after a hard fight, and loose. maybe you need to train a few, or ride some.

Cajungator26 05-22-2007 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterB
Maybe Cannon shell can tell ya about this. Filly's are tough to bring back after a hard fight, and loose. maybe you need to train a few, or ride some.

Are you a trainer?

Danzig 05-22-2007 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Are you a trainer?

oh, thanks cajun! i almost spewed wine on that one.

Danzig 05-22-2007 07:39 PM

oh, but seriously, senor b may have a point. i mean, look at genuine risk for example...she lost the wood, came in third behind plugged nickel--certainly cost her next out.
oh, wait... she won the derby next out. maybe that tough derby is what cost her the preakness--or was it that the preakness cost her the belmont?:rolleyes:

Cajungator26 05-22-2007 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
oh, but seriously, senor b may have a point. i mean, look at genuine risk for example...she lost the wood, came in third behind plugged nickel--certainly cost her next out.
oh, wait... she won the derby next out. maybe that tough derby is what cost her the preakness--or was it that the preakness cost her the belmont?:rolleyes:

Honestly, I think it just depends on the horse. It's not isolated to fillies. That was what was funny about it... fillies are definitely moodier (:D ) than colts or geldings, but I wouldn't say that they shut down after losses. That's just ridiculous. If that was the case, they would shut down after ANY loss whether they were running against fillies or colts.

Danzig 05-22-2007 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Honestly, I think it just depends on the horse. It's not isolated to fillies. That was what was funny about it... fillies are definitely moodier (:D ) than colts or geldings, but I wouldn't say that they shut down after losses. That's just ridiculous. If that was the case, they would shut down after ANY loss whether they were running against fillies or colts.

no, it's not isolated to fillies. some colts and fillies might learn to lose, but to suggest that if rags was to run and lose in the belmont she would never be the same is ridiculous. or that it would somehow ruin her--she can run 12f, but she can't if the colts are in there?? where is the logic in that?

Cajungator26 05-22-2007 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
where is the logic in that?

Logic? Not on this board! :D

MisterB 05-22-2007 07:48 PM

Time will tell. Hope she does ok, all around. I really don't care what people think or say. I am the one who talked her up in feb, when most had nothing to say other than negatives. so have fun on me all you want. I don't care.

When people look back on one event years ago, and consider these events as equal, I feel sorry for them. These young kids have alot to learn about horse racing.

Danzig 05-22-2007 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterB
Time will tell. Hope she does ok, all around. I really don't care what people think or say. I am the one who talked her up in feb, when most had nothing to say other than negatives. so have fun on me all you want. I don't care.

When people look back on one event years ago, and consider these events as equal, I feel sorry for them. These young kids have alot to learn about horse racing.

i wouldn't say that disagreeing with your comments would be having fun on you.

as for your second paragraph, i haven't a clue what you're talking about....and who are the young kids? i'll be 40 july 1!

Cajungator26 05-22-2007 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterB
Time will tell. Hope she does ok, all around. I really don't care what people think or say. I am the one who talked her up in feb, when most had nothing to say other than negatives. so have fun on me all you want. I don't care.

When people look back on one event years ago, and consider these events as equal, I feel sorry for them. These young kids have alot to learn about horse racing.

What you're saying doesn't make any sense, though. What is the difference between running against other fillies and losing and running against colts and losing?

Danzig 05-22-2007 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Isn't this what you were doing as well though? And for the record, the "negatives" that people were saying is that it wasn't a good idea to go to the Derby. Not exactly one of the more negative things said on this board, trust me, I know.

i think rags belonged more than quite a few others who went, but i'm not sure that i would have entered her either. a 20 horse slugfest isn't my idea of fun, or what's best for a horse.

as for the belmont, a whole different race. half the field size, a distance not suited for many--she has the breeding, and seemingly the ability. i can't think of a reason for her not to go.

as for history, and fillies, why this country is so adamantly against running gals vs guys, i don't know. happens quite often elsewhere, without ill effect.
makybe diva anyone?

Danzig 05-22-2007 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'm assuming it's me. Because at 27, I must be too young to know what I'm talking about. I also have never ridden or trained a horse, so I should just stop talking.


why, you, you, poser you! lol

keep talking dahoss, i'll listen! or read....

i've ridden--but not a racehorse. guess i need to shut up as well.

oh wait, i have stayed in a holiday inn express....

MisterB 05-22-2007 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Isn't this what you were doing as well though? And for the record, the "negatives" that people were saying is that it wasn't a good idea to go to the Derby. Not exactly one of the more negative things said on this board, trust me, I know.

Why is she any better now? She was among all the lousy fillys in the country, had no chance. I would have prefered to try her against the boys in Cal. not now. Todd has all losers, and the connections are trying their trump card, and may sacrifice further promotions. I am from the old school, and this doesn't add up

Whale away

MisterB 05-22-2007 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
What you're saying doesn't make any sense, though. What is the difference between running against other fillies and losing and running against colts and losing?

40 is something I would love to be

MisterB 05-22-2007 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i think rags belonged more than quite a few others who went, but i'm not sure that i would have entered her either. a 20 horse slugfest isn't my idea of fun, or what's best for a horse.

as for the belmont, a whole different race. half the field size, a distance not suited for many--she has the breeding, and seemingly the ability. i can't think of a reason for her not to go.

as for history, and fillies, why this country is so adamantly against running gals vs guys, i don't know. happens quite often elsewhere, without ill effect.
makybe diva anyone?

ah funny, Todd has no ammo left, that's why, open your eyes, and smell the roses. Are you serious?

You don't follow the horses to much do you

Cajungator26 05-22-2007 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterB
40 is something I would love to be

I'm not 40...

26 is getting close, though. :eek:


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