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Danzig 05-15-2007 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Not that I particularly think CP West has much of a chance, I also would have said the same thing about Birdstone in the Belmont, so I don't think Nick has to apologize to anyone. His record speaks for itself. The guy has won two Derbys, one Preakness, and one Belmont a lot of people thought he had no business being in ( and was 40-1 ).

I tell you what....I bet he finishes ahead of King of the Roxy.

as someone who would like to see came home do well, i'm hoping for cp west to make something of himself.

but i don't think he'll make a GOOD something of himself here.

IrishofNDMan 05-15-2007 04:42 PM

CQ will finish 2nd or 3rd, I guarentee that!

Hickory Hill Hoff 05-15-2007 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
He's officially going. Johnny V. is in the saddle.

Still on his "bandwagon" Pat???

and what's up for Saturday?

Bobby Fischer 05-15-2007 05:05 PM

Quay is great addition to the race.

Danzig 05-15-2007 07:07 PM

i think i'd have rather seen sedgefield return....

fpsoxfan 05-15-2007 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
Still on his "bandwagon" Pat???

and what's up for Saturday?

Well, I'm still evaluating that possibility. It's weird to me that there was no mention of him running until this past weekend and now he's a go. I'll have to watch the odds but he is certainly going to be a value underneath in exactas. As far as this weekend I haven't heard a word. I'm thinking maybe Tom will be hosting? I'll let you know when I hear.

Danzig 05-15-2007 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
CQ will finish 2nd or 3rd, I guarentee that!

really??
i don't know...this guy seems to run hot and cold. if people thought jones couldn't figure things out, what about pletch these days??? at least jones finished second with his one entry....

Hickory Hill Hoff 05-15-2007 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
Well, I'm still evaluating that possibility. It's weird to me that there was no mention of him running until this past weekend and now he's a go. I'll have to watch the odds but he is certainly going to be a value underneath in exactas. As far as this weekend I haven't heard a word. I'm thinking maybe Tom will be hosting? I'll let you know when I hear.

I think the "connections" are looking to make up for their poor Derby showing...can't see him winning though.

Bobby Fischer 05-15-2007 08:02 PM

He was moving pretty well from about the first quarter up until about 6.5 furlongs where he was moving parallel to Street Sense and had no where to go, then while trying to go outside of the mob, brushes with Dominican ... Once CQ brushes with Dominican he then swerves back inside of one horse and then outside of the pack, ending up wide on the turn...

IMO he could have gotten 4th or vied for 3rd with a smooth trip.


To see this:
go to-
http://www.breederscup.com/video.aspx?id=25314

At 2:46 on the video there is a red arrow identifying Street Sence. To his immediate right is Circular Quay.

hockey2315 05-15-2007 11:41 PM

Here are my feelings about CQ. . .
 
- Pletcher wouldn't run this horse unless he had a VERY good chance to atleast hit the board. . . He was so embarassed after the Derby that I don't think he'd subject himself to more criticism unless he thought he had a good shot for CQ to silence the haters. . .

- While I don't think the pace is going to be as fast as some do, it looks on paper like it could set up for him

- The shorter distance should suit him nicely as well. . .

I'll be using Hard Spun and CQ in my pick bets

Spendabuck85 05-16-2007 05:59 PM

From drf.com

As expected, jockey John Velazquez wound up on Circular Quay, and Garrett Gomez, the leading rider in the country, picked up the mount on King of the Roxy. But, it wasn't as simple as it sounds.

Barry Irwin, the head of the Team Valor syndicate which owns King of the Roxy, said he contacted the Pimlico stewards about making Velazquez honor his earlier commitment to ride King of the Roxy. According to Irwin, the stewards said they could, if Irwin wanted them to. But then Irwin said he sent an e-mail to his Team Valor partners asking if they should make Velazquez and his agent, Angel Cordero Jr., honor their commitment. Secondly, Irwin asked his partners, who should ride King of the Roxy if not Velazquez?

"It was 2 to 1 to not ride Velazquez," Irwin said. "Basically, people did not trust the situation and did not want to have a guy ride for us whose heart wasn't in it. And, they voted 100 percent to ride Gomez."

Cajungator26 05-16-2007 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Spendabuck85
From drf.com

As expected, jockey John Velazquez wound up on Circular Quay, and Garrett Gomez, the leading rider in the country, picked up the mount on King of the Roxy. But, it wasn't as simple as it sounds.

Barry Irwin, the head of the Team Valor syndicate which owns King of the Roxy, said he contacted the Pimlico stewards about making Velazquez honor his earlier commitment to ride King of the Roxy. According to Irwin, the stewards said they could, if Irwin wanted them to. But then Irwin said he sent an e-mail to his Team Valor partners asking if they should make Velazquez and his agent, Angel Cordero Jr., honor their commitment. Secondly, Irwin asked his partners, who should ride King of the Roxy if not Velazquez?

"It was 2 to 1 to not ride Velazquez," Irwin said. "Basically, people did not trust the situation and did not want to have a guy ride for us whose heart wasn't in it. And, they voted 100 percent to ride Gomez."

Let's hope that Gomez gives KOTR a better ride than the one he gave Steppenwolfer today.

The Indomitable DrugS 05-16-2007 06:23 PM

Velazquez has ridden like a wash-up ever since he took the fall at Keeneland.

I'll give him credit for make an effort to atleast try and save ground once on Circular Quay....though, he did get wiped out that one time at the Fairgrounds....and, as a heavy favorite, that was one of the few times when making that effort probably wasn't the wisest option.

There was a time, right before he joined with Pletcher (Smith was riding mostly for Pletcher) when JRV had sustained dazzling ROI numbers over a stretch of years--he dropped off a little once he hooked up with Pletcher, but his winning percentage rose sharply.

I don't know about Irwin's story, but I'd rather have Gomez as well. Not that it would matter.

sumitas 05-16-2007 08:08 PM

SS was the perfect horse for the perfect rider this KD. i agree with Bobby F.; CQ lost a lot while SS was cruising by and he'll be a factor this Sat. thanks for posting that with comments BF.

sumitas 05-16-2007 08:20 PM

CQ also fits the 2nd off a layoff profile and that is a good spot for him to be in for the Preakness...if he's 100%.


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