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Sightseek 04-17-2007 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
pro prado and song of the sword made the derby field. anyone remember the other big name besides rock hard x that was excluded that year?
Jerry Bailey :D

Danzig 04-17-2007 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Jerry Bailey :D
HAW!!!:D

philcski 04-17-2007 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
pro prado and song of the sword made the derby field. anyone remember the other big name besides rock hard x that was excluded that year?
Eddington, but who cares. They weren't winning anyways.
Bailey ended up using him for other purposes...

hi_im_god 04-17-2007 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Jerry Bailey :D
you're the czar. good work.

Danzig 04-17-2007 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
you're the czar. good work.
yay, sightseek is the czar...tsar, csar...

oh whatever...


hey sightseek, can i be your rasputin??:cool:

Sightseek 04-17-2007 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig
yay, sightseek is the czar...tsar, csar...

oh whatever...


hey sightseek, can i be your rasputin??:cool:
LOL just no undies jokes! ;)

Danzig 04-17-2007 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
LOL just no undies jokes! ;)
sigh


i shall do my best!

Sightseek 04-17-2007 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
you're the czar. good work.
I only got that because the walking and breathing Racing Almanac, DrugS, wasn't logged on.

whodey17 04-17-2007 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig
don't forget smarty jones--talk about putting your eggs in one basket. his ark derby was his ONLY graded race. so by some folks logic, he should have been excluded?! howl utterly preposterous!!

the rules are the same for everyone leading up to the derby. your horse doesn't get enough graded $--tough. he does? great. you hit the jackpot.
Does Smarty take the Arkansas route if a point system was in play.....prob not. Looking into the past isnt viable.

whodey17 04-17-2007 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
You're not serious, right?
Yes, what makes Tiago so much better than the ones you highlighted? Just because he won one race. Since when does one race make a good horse.

Danzig 04-17-2007 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by whodey17
Does Smarty take the Arkansas route if a point system was in play.....prob not. Looking into the past isnt viable.
what is past is prologue....


if if if , what is there to be gained.
there is no points system, the system is in place, and everyone knows what it is. if or when it changes, i'm sure everyone will adjust.

Danzig 04-17-2007 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by whodey17
Yes, what makes Tiago so much better than the ones you highlighted? Just because he won one race. Since when does one race make a good horse.
since when does placing in one or two make you better than a winner?

whodey17 04-17-2007 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig
since when does placing in one or two make you better than a winner?
When looking at one race it doesnt, but to me placing 2nd or 3rd in several Graded races is better than getting lucky in winning just 1 Graded race. I am focusing on the entire body of work. When looking at the entire body of work Tiago doesnt make the grade in my opinion.

hockey2315 04-17-2007 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by whodey17
When looking at one race it doesnt, but to me placing 2nd or 3rd in several Graded races is better than getting lucky in winning just 1 Graded race. I am focusing on the entire body of work. When looking at the entire body of work Tiago doesnt make the grade in my opinion.
What makes you say that Tiago got lucky? He ran a big number and it's not like the rest of the horses fell down in front of him. . .

whodey17 04-17-2007 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hockey2315
What makes you say that Tiago got lucky? He ran a big number and it's not like the rest of the horses fell down in front of him. . .
I am not a beyer fig man at all. I could care less what the beyer was. Look at his entire resume. And he didnt put all his eggs in one basket. I believe he finished 7th in a Grade II earlier this year. He plodded up and won a race that completely feel apart at the end.

hockey2315 04-17-2007 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by whodey17
I am not a beyer fig man at all. I could care less what the beyer was. Look at his entire resume. And he didnt put all his eggs in one basket. I believe he finished 7th in a Grade II earlier this year. He plodded up and won a race that completely feel apart at the end.
That race did not fall apart at all IMO. . . You seem to think fairly highly of King of the Roxy, so I really don't understand your logic. . . It kind of worries me that you agree with me about Pyramid Love tommorow. ..

whodey17 04-17-2007 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
He has run 4 times. 2 wins and a 3rd, including a grade 1 win. What more would you like? Why should he be penalized for getting a late start?

You have avoided my posts in this thread, which has been wise because you cannot dispute them, but at some point even the captain of the titanic might have tried to jump off. Maybe you should think about doing this.
One win was from a DQ. He finished 3rd in a MSW and a 2 in a MSW and then 7th in the Bevelry Lewis beaten by a mile. Then he gets lucky and runs the race of his life. To me one race doesnt cut it.

whodey17 04-17-2007 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by hockey2315
That race did not fall apart at all IMO. . . You seem to think fairly highly of King of the Roxy, so I really don't understand your logic. . . It kind of worries me that you agree with me about Pyramid Love tommorow. ..
I dont think highly of KOTR. I think he is more deserving than Tiago.

whodey17 04-17-2007 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
He has run 4 times. 2 wins and a 3rd, including a grade 1 win. What more would you like? Why should he be penalized for getting a late start?

You have avoided my posts in this thread, which has been wise because you cannot dispute them, but at some point even the captain of the titanic might have tried to jump off. Maybe you should think about doing this.
I am sorry, what am I avoiding? I must have missed them.


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