I didn't call the horse Drifty, not a time, so if you're addressing me, get that right, ok.

Save your negative comment for the owner, Bryan Reed, DVM.

And you have no idea what Dr.Reed . . . reads. So keep posting.

Decent return by Perfect Hanger.

Side note: I'd be happy to start a forum for Grits where all differing opinions from her own are swiftly purged and the user "vaporized."

I'm sorry Miraja, your post somehow rings far more negative than positive.

But somehow, he's managed to win often enough to net five million. Strange as it is.

THIS is Pants, and this is humor. A+ Pants, you go to the head of the class. There's a way to say things always.

Just so I don't step on any toes, what exactly is the threshold of dollars earned at which a horse becomes untouchable? $2 Million? $5 Million?

Nobody disputes that the horse has had a great career and has been a very productive individual, but I don't see how that eliminates the ability for someone to point out that the horse is not quite what he used to be and has never had a propensity for blowing by horses or for being a win machine. Those seem to be more statements of fact than they are statements of disrespect towards the horse's entire career.

And what the hell does any of it have to do with "honor?"

Talking about a horse's form being less than it used to be has no more to do with "honor" (or lack thereof as you've implied) than it has to do with blueberry pancakes.

If you think it is negative then apparently YOU are the one that associates running second with something negative.....don't put that on me. I respect a horse that is as consistent as he is.
Also, your statement that he has "won enough to net five million" is wrong in a couple of ways.
1) He hasn't earned $5 million.
2) A lot of the money he has earned has NOT just come from winning. This horse has finished second or third in 14 G1 and G2 races over the years. That pays quite a bit of money.

grits at least you get it-well said- total lack of respect-they just rip.rip.rip when they get a chance. drift couldnt find a better owner then dr. reed

yes brian, but pointing out that the horse isnt what he used to be ,what is obvious to any racing fan, constantly, is what gets old. did you need someone else or this thread to point that out to you or did you already figure that out that he takes alot of 2nds and when they come out next time when he takes a 2nd will you need someone on here to remind you of it or will this thread be enuff, because i guarentee someone will say he took 2nd again, and if you dont think some do it to get a rise your kidding yourself. usually i ignore it, i could care less. but grits does have somewhat of a legit point, but i also think you can say what you believe on this board and i don't hold bad feelings to no one, everyone has a right to what they think and what they percieve:)

I guess I'm just not bothered by a thread pointing out the obvious. I didn't find any of the posts mean-spirited or denigrating to the horse or his career.

I don't need threads here to remind me of lots of things in racing, but news in racing is news in racing. Did you need a thread on this forum to know that Curlin won the Arkansas Derby or that Dominican won the Blue Grass yesterday? It was quite obvious to any racing fan even without looking at the forum. It's the same thing with Perfect Drift. Things that get discussed here ARE the news. If Drift wins his next race, someone will make a thread about it.

I agree that Grits had a point, in theory -- but nobody said the horse was awful, nobody bad-mouthed the horse in that thread. It was classic overreaction. Well, it was still semi-valid in the universal sense (that there ARE people out there who lose track of the fact that Drift has banked lots of cash...I just don't think anyone posting in the thread had done so), but the problem I have with it is that it was taken to a personal level towards other posters. Calling people dishonorable for talking about Drift's propensity to snag small slices takes it out of the realm of reality and into fantasy. The point was relevant in theory, but the whole "HARK! People are trashing Drift!" thing was a figment of someone's imagination.

Though he DID run second yesterday, like he has so many times before. Dishonorable as it may be to have a discussion about his running lines.

confused i'm not, first i realize he takes 2nd alot what does that have to do with me thinking he couldnt have beaten that horse with more ground.so me saying he takes seconed alot would discredit me saying hes going to win again - i think not-you want to lump them together when thier is nothing to it go ahead. one has nothing to do with the other. no hard feelings here you believe what you want and i will do the same. no big deal. i never said anyone was rude i said the repeats are just old:) i know you respect drift but some just love to rip him. like i said no big deal and no hard feelings drift rules:D

i understand no one ripped him i was refering to the comment from grits that some do on this board and on others

thats why i said i agree partially with her in my other post i didn't back all that she said i dont think anyone on here was dishonarable but i stand by the fact that sometimes like i said he doesnt get the respect sometimes from some people that he desrves. but i believe most respect him

Let me just stay, I call Perfect Drift "DRIFTY". It is me. I have always called him that. It is meant as an endearment as I have loved this horse since his derby run.

I DO call Buck by many names: Buckers, Handsome, and when I am mad he gets "MR. NAKED!"

Sorry if you don't like it. I can't change who I am, but you don't have to put quotes "DRIFTY" like I am being stupid for loving a horse that has done more for racing than any "bernardini" type horse that runs off to the breeding shed after five or six races. Horse racing could use more Perfect Drift type horses IMO.

AND I WORE MY DRIFTY HAT PROUDLY AT MY HORSE SHOW TODAY!!!!!

I know you aren't bashing the horse because his earnings speak for itself. And I consider the fact that considering Drifty is still running competitively, unlike many other geldings IE: Funny Cide, I KNOW everyone on the board is smart enough to realize that DRIFTY should never be bashed.

I bet him in his derby run! Have been being good lately and not betting on any horses.

Funny Cide is a good horse and his good for horse racing. Wasn't bashing him in that respect. Just saying atleast these guys stay around. I give Invasor's owners credit for running him this year.

I didn't take it personally what you said about Drifty running second, just that you were mocking my pet name for him. :)

Ok, so what you are saying here is it is alright to have threads here on every subject that YOU are interested in that pertains to horseracing.

So, I guess I understand this one.

You're right, absolutely not, they didn't--did they? And you're sure about that I know?

No, not really. I'm wise enough to be aware of smartass undertone when I see it. And also wise enough to recognize that when an individual's comments are questioned, that they enjoy belittling others with accusatory arrogance. That one is effective as well, to those of us that have noted their crass, petty interjection. In this case, also admitting that they don't care what the animal has earned or what his owners think of the comment. Good for him.

And as far as Perfect Drift's following, or those that care about him and other older runners never betting--I'm pretty sure I put a good deal more through the windows in the last 3 days than he did.

Get it right, when discussing me. I said, "I find no honor in speaking of the horse in a negative manner."

I called no one anything, and that includes "dishonorable."

And don't ever suggest a thing wrong with my imagination again--not in figment, fantasy or otherwise.

If anything does exist here it is the propensity for the immature 20 something to come out swinging everytime their mouth engages a tick faster than their know-it-all brain.

And remember this is all, certainly, nothing personal and not to be taken seriously by any means.

I wish I could be 27 again.