ND didn't get to play Holy Cross and Va Tech, put SIU in the spot where ND was and they would have got clown stomped by the athletic winthrop team. They had an easy draw, is that difficult to see. Again, Holy Cross and Va Tech.

ND has this years soon to be National Champions on the run, and played toe to toe and went shot for shot with them all game to fall short by 2 points. That was some serious heart right there by ND.

G'Town is this years Champions.

Please who cares what experts think will finish where. I thought there were a midpack big east team. They showed zero heart last year with all the sub 5 point losses. This team didn't overachieve that much, who exactly did they beat really. I dont see any top 10 teams in there.

I'm being realistic. SIU did play a good game tonight, I'm not doubting that. ND got upset in the 1st round, I'm obviously not doubting that. I'm saying, it's all about the draw, and when I saw ND was playing Winthrop I knew how dangerous they were. Now if I would have saw Holy Cross, I would have laughed as they moved on to the second round. You want to know why there are ND fans that argue as much as me, because of the millions and millions of ND haters like you!

C'mon Scavs, Notre Dame must have quite a bit of heart. I have some records to back me up on this one. I didn't take the time to look them up but I believe these are very close. Iraq 0-2 Japan 0-1 Great Britain 0-1 Germany 0-1 Notre Dame 310-7. Who in the history of the world has defeated the Army, Navy, and Air Force more than Notre Dame?:D

Those close loses had nothing to do with heart, the ball just didn't go there way the entire year.

ND has heart, and if you don't think so your crazy. I was at this years ND vs. Michigan State football game. ND was getting crushed, and everyone was soaked from the downpour of rain. Michigan State fans were leaving because of the weather and how much they were up. Well, when the game was over the stadium was still packed with screaming ND fans like myself. ND fans never lose hope, and the players never did either. That was a special game to be at, and is why I love ND so much.

GO IRISH!!!!

Irish the some was the ball, some was the team. Every time ND loses its not because the ball didn't bounce their way. They missed open shots, ft's etc. i watched that whole ND football game and was cheering the whole game,however michigan state sucks. When is the last time we actually beat a ranked team, Honestly, Michigan spanked ND, USC spanked ND. only so much you can defend.

Congrats Pillow. Can't believe they lost but glad they covered as well.

I have been the biggest ND fan since I can remember. I love the movie Rudy, call me a Rudy all you want.I have been to numerious ND football and basketball games, and even a few hockey and baseball. I haven't missed watching a ND football game since I was 7. Everything about ND is special to me, but if your not a fan you can't understand it. Nothing can compare to the tradition of Notre Dame, I don't need to argue my point anymore.

ND be the 3rd ranked Wolverines in the Big house two years ago, I was there.

you guys get on me and attack me about ND and are just like all the ND haters across the world, but I feel bad for you guys that you don't have a team with so much tradition to cheer for. I was just pointing out how much the feeling you get going to an ND game and walking around on the campus gives you compared to any other college. I've been to a lot of campuses, none compare to ND . That is my only point.

every program has down years, the good programs recover and rebuild, which is what ND is doing right now. Next year is no National Championship year in football as they are young, but in the next 2-6 years ND will have 3 National Championships. I guarentee Jimmy Claussen gets one for the irish.

I dont hate Notre Dame I think its a great school.
But ND best stay out of football conference play, they just dont get it done anymore. History and trends change. This school has continued its high academic standards, but football... bad now. Sorry but tell it like it is. Last National Championship was when....?