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Linny 03-07-2007 08:00 PM

There's not bigger fan of Spectacular Bid but he was a flop. Of course, his female was not great.
With his breeding Coronado's Quest was a flop as well. I agree with Cannon Shell about Dayjur he was a fast horse with great breeding. I don't think Kingmambo has lived up to his first few crops either.

Scav 03-07-2007 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I was wrong once....I found DrugS a place to live in Saratoga ( pretty good deal by the way ) last summer.

I will correct that mistake.

Gotta give the kid some credit for the creativity, I defintely have a favorite on there and it isn't BTW's......

blackthroatedwind 03-07-2007 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Gotta give the kid some credit for the creativity, I defintely have a favorite on there and it isn't BTW's......


He's hilarious.

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-07-2007 08:59 PM

my sire deluxe failure is,,,,,,,,officer..so far

blackthroatedwind 03-07-2007 09:00 PM

My first choice was actually Byk.

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-07-2007 09:04 PM

he really needs to find some fillys with some run in them..

Sightseek 03-07-2007 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Yeah....his progeny is like Murder's Row around here.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/progeny/shoulda+pulledout

Ha,ha,ha,ha!!

Scav 03-07-2007 10:17 PM

Oh my....SUCH HILARIOUS. Click on the names of the progeny on that link, it even gets MORE DETAILED....I absolutely LOVE it

saucon17 03-07-2007 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Oh my....SUCH HILARIOUS. Click on the names of the progeny on that link, it even gets MORE DETAILED....I absolutely LOVE it

The detailed race record is priceless :D :D

randallscott35 03-07-2007 10:38 PM

This extra info on POINTGIVEN is unreal!:)

"Only man in history to sweep the Triple Crown of Internet Message Board Retardation. He did so by capturing the Gr 1 Ken Wood Memorial by a resounding 31 **** posts over Merasmag."

JJP 03-07-2007 11:31 PM

How's Monarchos done? Off the top of my head I can't think of too many decent runners he's sired in his relatively short time as a stallion.

Sightseek 03-08-2007 06:52 AM

He even gelded PG1984 & Oracle!!! :D

Linny 03-08-2007 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
my sire deluxe failure is,,,,,,,,officer..so far

Why? From a book of average mares, he's sired some nice horses who have only just turned 3.

Dunbar 03-08-2007 08:09 AM

Alysheba

I liked him so much as a race horse, but as a sire he produced very little.

--Dunbar

slotdirt 03-08-2007 08:15 AM

Sadly, that DrugS piece is down now. Wish I could have seen it.

Monarchos hasn't done that poorly. 16th so far this year among third crop sires.

paisjpq 03-08-2007 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linny
There's not bigger fan of Spectacular Bid but he was a flop. Of course, his female was not great.
With his breeding Coronado's Quest was a flop as well. I agree with Cannon Shell about Dayjur he was a fast horse with great breeding. I don't think Kingmambo has lived up to his first few crops either.

are you sure you don't mean King Cugat? King Mambo has 66 stakes winners and has sired 5 champions from 11 crops to race.

Linny 03-08-2007 10:08 AM

He had El Condor Pasa and Lemon Drop Kid early in his career, but (at least in the US) has not seemed to consistently sire high quality. He still sells well but I would have expected him to have sired more multiple GSW's and more candidates for year end honors over the years. being by Mr P, I'd have expected more dirt success.
I guess I'd say he's not a failure, but he hasn't lived up to my expectations.

BTW, how do you define failure? If a horse who is only moderately bred is a top racehorse but doesn't sire much (think Skip Away, Tiznow, Silver Charm etc) is he a failure? In most cases like those, breeders really don't expect that much anyhow. To me a failure is one with the pedigree, race record and conformation who just don't sire anything of note. Citation is a classic example, though history did prove Bull Lea to be a terrible sire of sires. Nashua didn't sire much either, in terms of top class colts but his fillies were great producers. Surely breeders expected more of him. By this standeard Coronado's Quest and Dayjur (both champs, well bred and built) jump to mind. They were well supported with good mares and stood at top farms.


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