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clyde 11-04-2010 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 716375)
Well we have all seen our general standard of living decline already quite a bit in the last 3 years. There are 45 million people on food stamps now.

Real bad---less than 5 years. My guess is in the 3 year range.



It's Y2K all over again,SportyFans!!!!


Run for your lives!

gales0678 11-04-2010 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 716375)
Well we have all seen our general standard of living decline already quite a bit in the last 3 years. There are 45 million people on food stamps now.

Real bad---less than 5 years. My guess is in the 3 year range.

will they still run at the spa?

dalakhani 11-04-2010 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678 (Post 716378)
will they still run at the spa?

The travers will be run for loaves of bread. Second place will get a plate.

gales0678 11-04-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 716388)
The travers will be run for loaves of bread. Second place will get a plate.

u think randy is wrong , u don't think we will burn like rome?

Princess Doreen 11-04-2010 04:11 PM

I can't disagree with the predictions of doom and gloom. However, we're pretty well set before the butt end falls completely out of the economy. By then, we won't much give a damn cuz we'll be dead. I really pity the people who have to deal with it.

The country is in the toilet, and, it's not all Bush's fault either.

gales0678 11-04-2010 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 716397)
I can't disagree with the predictions of doom and gloom. However, we're pretty well set before the butt end falls completely out of the economy. By then, we won't much give a damn cuz we'll be dead. I really pity the people who have to deal with it.

The country is in the toilet, and, it's not all Bush's fault either.

correct , frank , pelosi etc etc must share the blame as well

randallscott35 11-04-2010 04:17 PM

Today's absolutely must watch clip comes from David Stockman, director of the OMB under Ronald Reagan. "An independent Fed is what we had when I was in the government. Volcker was the head of it...Today the Fed is scared to death that the boys and girls and robots on Wall Street are going to have a hissy fit. And therefore these programs, one after another, are simply designed to somehow pacify the stock market, and hoping to keep the stock indexes going up, and that somehow that will fool the people into thinking they are wealthier and they will spend money. The people aren't buying that. Main Street is not stupid enough to believe that engineered rallies as a result of QE2 stimulus are making them wealthier and so they should go out and buy another Coach bag. This is really crazy stuff that I can't say enough negative about...The Fed is telling a lot of lies to the market... it is telling all the politicians on Capitol Hill you can issue unlimited debt cause it doesn't cost anything. We have $9 trillion of marketable debt. Upwards of 70% of that has maturities of 5 years or less down to 90 days. All of those maturities are 1% down to 10 basis points. So from the point of view of Congress, the cost of carrying the debt is essentially free. When you tell politicians they can issue $100 billion of debt a month for free, how do you expect them to do the right thing, and ask their constituents to sacrifice... I think the Fed is injecting high grade monetary heroin into the financial system of the world, and one of these days it is going to kill the patient."

gales0678 11-04-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 716402)
Today's absolutely must watch clip comes from David Stockman, director of the OMB under Ronald Reagan. "An independent Fed is what we had when I was in the government. Volcker was the head of it...Today the Fed is scared to death that the boys and girls and robots on Wall Street are going to have a hissy fit. And therefore these programs, one after another, are simply designed to somehow pacify the stock market, and hoping to keep the stock indexes going up, and that somehow that will fool the people into thinking they are wealthier and they will spend money. The people aren't buying that. Main Street is not stupid enough to believe that engineered rallies as a result of QE2 stimulus are making them wealthier and so they should go out and buy another Coach bag. This is really crazy stuff that I can't say enough negative about...The Fed is telling a lot of lies to the market... it is telling all the politicians on Capitol Hill you can issue unlimited debt cause it doesn't cost anything. We have $9 trillion of marketable debt. Upwards of 70% of that has maturities of 5 years or less down to 90 days. All of those maturities are 1% down to 10 basis points. So from the point of view of Congress, the cost of carrying the debt is essentially free. When you tell politicians they can issue $100 billion of debt a month for free, how do you expect them to do the right thing, and ask their constituents to sacrifice... I think the Fed is injecting high grade monetary heroin into the financial system of the world, and one of these days it is going to kill the patient."


randy you worried about your pension?

randallscott35 11-04-2010 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678 (Post 716406)
randy you worried about your pension?

What pension? I will get nothing and I know it so no I don't worry at all.

gales0678 11-04-2010 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 716409)
What pension? I will get nothing and I know it so no I don't worry at all.

oh ok , you can always find a whale i guess:D:D

dalakhani 11-04-2010 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 716402)
Today's absolutely must watch clip comes from David Stockman, director of the OMB under Ronald Reagan. "An independent Fed is what we had when I was in the government. Volcker was the head of it...Today the Fed is scared to death that the boys and girls and robots on Wall Street are going to have a hissy fit. And therefore these programs, one after another, are simply designed to somehow pacify the stock market, and hoping to keep the stock indexes going up, and that somehow that will fool the people into thinking they are wealthier and they will spend money. The people aren't buying that. Main Street is not stupid enough to believe that engineered rallies as a result of QE2 stimulus are making them wealthier and so they should go out and buy another Coach bag. This is really crazy stuff that I can't say enough negative about...The Fed is telling a lot of lies to the market... it is telling all the politicians on Capitol Hill you can issue unlimited debt cause it doesn't cost anything. We have $9 trillion of marketable debt. Upwards of 70% of that has maturities of 5 years or less down to 90 days. All of those maturities are 1% down to 10 basis points. So from the point of view of Congress, the cost of carrying the debt is essentially free. When you tell politicians they can issue $100 billion of debt a month for free, how do you expect them to do the right thing, and ask their constituents to sacrifice... I think the Fed is injecting high grade monetary heroin into the financial system of the world, and one of these days it is going to kill the patient."

Is this the same David Stockman that was indicted not too long ago. I'm not sure.

dalakhani 11-04-2010 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 716397)
I can't disagree with the predictions of doom and gloom. However, we're pretty well set before the butt end falls completely out of the economy. By then, we won't much give a damn cuz we'll be dead. I really pity the people who have to deal with it.

The country is in the toilet, and, it's not all Bush's fault either.

Agreed. I think many can share the blame for our issues. Athough, Im not so certain we are in the toilet either.

dalakhani 11-04-2010 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678 (Post 716389)
u think randy is wrong , u don't think we will burn like rome?

I think regardless of our issues, we will "war" our way out of it just like every other empire. Its naive to think that we can't create enemies any time we like.

gales0678 11-04-2010 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 716430)
Agreed. I think many can share the blame for our issues. Athough, Im not so certain we are in the toilet either.

clinton as well with NAFTA

Princess Doreen 11-04-2010 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 716430)
Agreed. I think many can share the blame for our issues. Athough, Im not so certain we are in the toilet either.

We're in the toilet with the Tidy Bowl man - no one's yet pressed down on the handle.

Higher taxes will mean just more government spending with very little of it making any difference to the people struggling to pay for food and shelter.

gales0678 11-04-2010 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 716454)
We're in the toilet with the Tidy Bowl man - no one's yet pressed down on the handle.

Higher taxes will mean just more government spending with very little of it making any difference to the people struggling to pay for food and shelter.


yup

Princess Doreen 11-04-2010 05:26 PM

And our illustrious POTUS taking 3000 people to India at $200 million a day is really helping things along.

Coach Pants 11-04-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 716433)
I think regardless of our issues, we will "war" our way out of it just like every other empire. Its naive to think that we can't create enemies any time we like.

It's up to President Obama.


He won't.

herkhorse 11-04-2010 08:56 PM

Is there anything more snooty then redboarding one's portfolio?


just thayin'

clyde 11-04-2010 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 716388)
The travers will be run for loaves of bread. Second place will get a plate.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edtl5W4XNLk




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