Will you please stop with this ridiculous trade? Why would Cleveland trade for Anthony who can opt out and become unrestricted FA in 3 months with ZERO chance to resign with Cleveland? They traded a 1st rounder to Chicago to get Deng who probably wont resign with them either.

Cleveland...

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-cle...06652-nba.html

Waiters instead of Drummond, compounded by Bennett at #1 the following year...yeah that would definitely make for a team losing it's way.

Was Bennett that bad at 1? It was a a soft class. I thought it was going to be Oledipo, but I had Bennett top 5. I think he will be fine.

Not as bad as Waiters at #4 in the 2012 draft. Last year's draft was especially weak, but Bennett at #1 was a bit of a stretch.

Of course he was a bad pick at #1 considering that he might have fell out of the lottery had Cleveland not taken him. And that is in a really weak year. He has had a few decent games and maybe he will become a starting level player but obviously he and Waiters were reaches that no one had going that high. When a GM reaches in a draft and it doesnt work out he pays the price. They could have taken Noel and waited it out like Philly has but the delusional owner (and you) thought they'd be a playoff contender this year. Of course they did take a player that wasnt ready to open the season because he had shoulder surgery and likes to eat. The guy made indefensible moves.

I think the worst part isnt that he took these two guys who are clearly not star level players but where he took them. He could have traded down if he really wanted to and drafted both later and gotten something else in return. If he picks these guys 10th and they have something else it is not nearly as bad. Neither would have a prayer of being a lottery pick this year.

I guess when you look at the fact he had 4 top 4 picks since 2011 and got Irving, Tristan Thompson, Waiters and Bennett I guess I'd be pretty nervous about letting him take another shot

I guess it could've been worse...he could've taken Royce White in the first round. Lucky for the Cavs the Rockets made that mistake at #16.

Yeah they used up their draft luck with Chandler Parsons. Funny that as you look back over the last few years drafts it is amazing how hit or miss it is.

Look at the year that Sac drafted Thomas Robinson a huge bust at #4 and got Isiah Thomas as the last pick in the same draft

Big game James tonight.
I'm talking Harden, not the King.

The real James had the real big night

Lebrons not just handing KD MVP.

Of course not, but they are still the 3rd best team right now and KD is having those games nearly every single night. And, he is missing his wingman much more often than James is.

Chuck...your weekly random Raymond Felton update...

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...-pending-loss/

Rising stars game is pretty serious. Drummond is arguing calls.

Hilarious Harden and Anthony Davis new Foot Locker commercial.

As I watch Kyrie Irving, it reminds me a lot of Steph Curry at Davidson. Here's a very talented player that is playing with a group of people that are nowhere near his level and he looks bored. He throws passes that they can't catch and plays the game at a mental level that they can't reach. When you see him play with other talented people, you see just how good he is.

Agree. Part of the reasson I thought Clevland would be very good. I think Irving is a super star, and I thought Waiters, Bennett, Bynum and Thompson could all be very good/star players. Plus solid guys like Verajo and Jack.

I don't think much of his team. Don't think much of Waiters and Thompson is not good. Bennett appeared as a project. My hope was that Bynum could give them something and in the East, it wouldn't take much. What I'm seeing though, is why guys like James and Bryant and Jordan are superstars while Irving is just super talented. Superstars don't get bored. They don't take nights off. No matter how bad their teams are, they are bringing it every night.

Waiters is solid. He's a starting 2 for half the teams in the league right now.

He will always excel in games where defense isnt required.

This is correct. Plus real stars play both sides of the ball.

This is delusional.

This is delusional.

He doesn't even start for the team he is on now.

Waiters is an athletic player with talent but his flaws are painfully obvious. He could be the next Lance Stevenson (talented former malcontent that focused on playing role on team and is excelling on boards and defense and is about to get paid in free agency)
But he'd rather be a low rent World B Free

What part exactly? I guess the entire board of ESPN writers is delusional they had Clevland as the 5th seed in the preseason rankings.

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5th in the East is very good?

The delusional part is thinking that Bynum coming off an injury that forced him to miss an entire year and gain 80 pounds would become a star. Or that Waiters or Thompson or Bennett could ever be stars.

I thought Bynum was hungry for more then just food. Bennett and Waiters will both be fine in the league, your wrong about both of them if you think they wont have long, solid, possibly all star careers. Thompson is also rock solid. He averages 12 and 10. The key is, he is 22 years old. He has 5 years to improve then another 5 years to be in his prime.

Nice of the NBA to give 'The Servant' and his team a full week off, while other teams come back from the All Star break with back to backs on Tues and Wed.

Who is the servant lol?????

Cleveland goes no worst then 20-10 in the second half and makes the playoffs. Nothing special, I know, but they will get there act together. Another strong team effort tonight and another good effort from Bennett.

Got ya. Well the servant better be as great over the next 30 games. Lebron is coming for his MVP. Ill call it now, Miami beats OKC Thursday.

As for the nickname, how corny is Durant starting to be? Is he like Lebrons servant now? I dont get it???

Melo up to old tricks. 8 for 21. Hardaway Jr going to be the Knicks best draft pick in 10 years. He will be an All Star in 2 years.

They have 28 games left.

They play OKC 2 times, Miami, Indiana, Houston, SA, at GS, at Phx, at Clippers, at Memphis. and Toronto 3 times.

Even giving starting them off at 2-0 the odds of them going no worse than 20-10 are pretty remote. 15-15 would be a monumental achievement.

Being the Knicks best draft pick of the last 10 years is a low bar. David Lee would easily be the best.

Anthony Bennett will be fine.

Yeah in a JJ Hickson way