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GPK 05-16-2012 06:42 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/17/us...s.html?_r=1&hp

3kings 05-16-2012 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 861360)

Kevin, please stop.

We don't need facts or stories about the case, Riot will tells us what we should think.

Riot 05-16-2012 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 861359)
You truly live in your own world.

I live in a world where rude little internet dickheads that come out of nowhere calling me hypocrite because they are have a little hysterical hissy fit don't get to blame their rude behaviour on me.

There was a nice discussion going on here before the predictable few decided to interrupt and make it a personal attack. You can't help small minds and angry insecure egos. You are what you are. Try harder to not be a joke.

pointman 05-16-2012 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 861362)
I live in a world where rude little internet dickheads that come out of nowhere calling me hypocrite because they are have a little hysterical hissy fit don't get to blame their rude behaviour on me.

You live in a world where you continually ignore the evidence that is staring you in the face. You think that you are right about everything and have no tolerance for dissent. When people disagree with you, you call everyone else names and claim they are rude when you are too stupid to realize that no one assaults others and throws more insults at others than you.

You really need to get a job and a life that is something other than posting here 24/7 while the rest of us hard working people are forced to support losers like you.

Riot 05-16-2012 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 861360)

I wonder if that had anything to do with why he wasn't charged. The police department was known for multiple problems, the current chief was brought in specifically to fix them (why the town supported him through this, I'm sure)

Maybe they didn't charge Zimmerman because they just didn't have the manpower and capability to go forward well.

pointman 05-16-2012 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 861362)
I live in a world where rude little internet dickheads that come out of nowhere calling me hypocrite because they are have a little hysterical hissy fit don't get to blame their rude behaviour on me.

There was a nice discussion going on here before the predictable few decided to interrupt and make it a personal attack. You can't help small minds and angry insecure egos. You are what you are. Try harder to not be a joke.

The predictable few? What a laugh! It is always multiple posters against one ignoramous, YOU!!! Why is it that you find yourself against multiple people that call you out and you still think that the others are the problem and not you? Wake up and smell the coffee jackass.

Riot 05-16-2012 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 861363)
You live in a world where you continually ignore the evidence that is staring you in the face. You think that you are right about everything and have no tolerance for dissent. When people disagree with you, you call everyone else names and claim they are rude when you are too stupid to realize that no one assaults others and throws more insults at others than you.

You really need to get a job and a life that is something other than posting here 24/7 while the rest of us hard working people are forced to support losers like you.

You can probably get help for your inability to tolerate other people you don't like in a social setting.

I have a wonderful, complex, challenging job that pays well, and allows me lots of free time, thanks :tro:

Look - you jumped into the conversation out of nowhere attacking me, and you were caught being stupid doing it. Now you are going all in to try and blame me for your acting so ridiculously. You dislike me? So sorry for you. Looks like you have something you have to learn to deal with.

pointman 05-16-2012 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 861368)
You can probably get help for your inability to tolerate other people you don't like in a social setting.

I have a wonderful, complex, challenging job that pays well, and allows me lots of free time, thanks :tro:

No you don't, you are here all day long and you are not fooling anyone.

There is no such thing as a nice discussion with you if someone does not agree with your position.

Riot 05-16-2012 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 861371)
No you don't, you are here all day long and you are not fooling anyone.

There is no such thing as a nice discussion with you if someone does not agree with your position.

Why do strangers on the internet feel compelled to tell other people what they think and do? :D Their delusion of their own importance must be spectacular.

You started this little fight. Time for you to go away now, unhappy, angry little person. You might try delete if you don't like reading the posts of somebody you don't know on the internet. You've ruined this thread. Not me. Dickhead.

Rudeboyelvis 05-16-2012 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 861375)
Why do strangers on the internet feel compelled to tell other people what they think and do? :D Their delusion of their own importance must be spectacular.

You started this little fight. Time for you to go away now, unhappy, angry little person. You might try delete if you don't like reading the posts of somebody you don't know on the internet. You've ruined this thread. Not me. Dickhead.

Oh. My. God.

You may have surpassed KRIM

pointman 05-16-2012 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 861375)
Why do strangers on the internet feel compelled to tell other people what they think and do? :D Their delusion of their own importance must be spectacular.

If you don't realize that this perfectly describes you then the help you need is beyond anything anyone here can provide. Thank you for proving once again the hypocrite you really are.

Riot 05-16-2012 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 861377)
Oh. My. God.

You may have surpassed KRIM

:D You guys have no idea how many people here are laughing at you.

Some of you guys haven't changed for years. You're predictable little internet personalities, and everyone here knows who you are and what your little bully games are.

Riot 05-16-2012 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 861378)
If you don't realize that this perfectly describes you then the help you need is beyond anything anyone here can provide.

I hope you feel better, interrupting an internet thread to yell and start a fight with a person you don't know, but know you don't like. Good for you, big guy! ;) Be sure to blame me for making poor you behave so badly as you slam the door on your way out. Dickhead.

pointman 05-16-2012 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 861381)
I hope you feel better, interrupting an internet thread to yell and start a fight with a person you don't know, but know you don't like. Good for you, big guy! ;) Be sure to blame me for making poor you behave so badly as you slam the door on your way out. Dickhead.

I know you have to have the last word because you think that you win. You are wrong politicunt. You have made a grand fool of yourself once again. Carry on with your never ending rants, distortion of facts and never ending condescending remarks towards those that disagree with you. You are a legend in your own mind.

Rudeboyelvis 05-16-2012 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 861388)
I know you have to have the last word because you think that you win. You are wrong politicunt. You have made a grand fool of yourself once again. Carry on with your never ending rants, distortion of facts and never ending condescending remarks towards those that disagree with you. You are a legend in your own mind.

My computer is wringing with irony.

Riot 05-16-2012 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 861388)
I know you have to have the last word because you think that you win. You are wrong politicunt.

And when a man resorts to cursing misogyny to degrade a woman, he's shown his true stripes. Well done! :tro:

Seriously, Pointman - you started this. Not me. You jumped into the thread with personal attacks. You're the one freaking out with anger and dislike.

Go have a margarita or something.

Danzig 05-16-2012 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 861360)

what a mess. seems imo that based on all the evidence i've read about (and obviously you only know what's given) that perhaps the police dept 'pre-judged' for lack of a better word what had happened when they arrived at the scene...that it was felt from the beginning that they weren't actually investigating a crime, and so things weren't done as well as they should have been. a lot of assuming went on, between thinking zimmerman was on foot (why wasn't that asked?), assuming martin didn't belong in the neighborhood, assuming he was trespassing....way, way too much assuming.

as all this has gone on, there have been plenty of surprises along the way. shoddy investigative work, too much info released to the media at various points along the way, you have charges filed that appear to be in response to the public outcry, and perhaps not in response to what's been found in an investigation...in other words, a clusterf*ck of epic proportions. seems to me the police mishandled the case from the very first moment, that it's certainly too late now to remedy that situation, and that they probably are wasting their time at this point in having filed charges because you only do so if you feel that you have a good case. i don't think they do at all at this point.
going to be hard to find an untainted jury pool, the investigation is full of holes, you have the law of stand your ground.....
like i said weeks ago, this guy will most likely walk. whether he is guilty of murder or not, i doubt they'll be able to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt all things considered. it's a weak case, apparently brought only to settle down all the people screaming for charges to be filed. and probably explains why they didn't convene a grand jury; i doubt one would have recommended moving forward.

pointman 05-16-2012 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 861392)
And when a man resorts to cursing misogyny to degrade a woman, he's shown his true stripes. Well done! :tro:

Seriously, Pointman - you started this. Not me. You jumped into the thread with personal attacks. You're the one freaking out with anger and dislike.

Go have a margarita or something.

Oh, I see you can insult me with a male body part with impunity but when I go back at you with the equivalent of a female body part I am a misogynist. :rolleyes:

Once again proving the incredible hypocrite you are.

My dislike of you has nothing to do with your gender and you know that but you love to try to deflect the real issue when you are called out.

Rupert Pupkin 05-16-2012 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 861177)
All that will matter in the end is the ME report on Martin, was the shot fired from 6" or 4' (distances are estimated). That will determine in the minds of the jury what was happening 6" they were fighting and not guilty, 4' he shot the kid to kill him and guilty.

There was an article about this. I posted the link earlier in the thread. It said the shot came at extremely close range. There were gun powder burns on Trayvon's sweatshirt and on his skin.

Rupert Pupkin 05-16-2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 861170)
so voice experts have determined the voice yelling for help in the 911 call was NOT zimmermans voice.

Get ready to spend some time in prison, murderer.

The articles say the voice experts at the FBI could not determine whose voice it was.

By the way, there is no chance the voice was Trayvon's. Zimmerman was the one getting beaten up. Zimmerman was the one on the bottom getting punched in the face and having his head banged against the ground. Who do you think was yelling for help, the guy on the bottom who is getting beaten up, or the guy on top winning the fight?

People in the neighborhood identified the voice yelling as Zimmerman's. Even Trayvon's father said the voice was not his son's. Then later, once he realized that would hurt his case, then he changed his mind and decided it was Trayvon's voice.


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