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Cannon Shell 02-04-2014 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 963837)
Thompson, Irving and the newly acquired Deng...you can keep the rest.

I'm not a big Thompson believer. He is a good offensive rebounder but pretty much brings little other than "potential" to the table.

declansharbor 02-04-2014 03:50 PM

Do you guys see Michael Carter-Williams as one of the top 6-7 point guards in the league 2-3 yrs from now?

Personally, i'm stoked, and am excited about the team's future for the first time in a long time.

Duvalier 02-04-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 963846)
I'm not a big Thompson believer. He is a good offensive rebounder but pretty much brings little other than "potential" to the table.

I was kind of basing it on potential since I think he still has room to improve...he has played some good all around games, just not consistently night after night. On that team he's the only player I'd take other than the two no-brainers. I wouldn't want anything at all to do with Dion Waiters.

Duvalier 02-04-2014 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 963851)
Do you guys see Michael Carter-Williams as one of the top 6-7 point guards in the league 2-3 yrs from now?

Personally, i'm stoked, and am excited about the team's future for the first time in a long time.

I have to admit, I'm really surprised at how good he's been. I figured he'd be good but not this good this early...I've been impressed. He doesn't have much around him right now as far as other impact players which you can kind of see by the scores of the games he has missed. He's pretty much the reason they've won a surprising 15 games already.

There are some pretty good point guards out there right now, but he's definitely had a really good start to his NBA career and has a chance to move into the conversation of top PG's in the coming years. A lot will come down to how much work he puts in and how well the front office does in putting better players around him. Trading Young and Hawes before the trade deadline and maybe even Turner for some assets...along with Noel coming back and the upcoming draft should be a good starting point in building for the future in Philly.

RockHardTen1985 02-04-2014 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 963851)
Do you guys see Michael Carter-Williams as one of the top 6-7 point guards in the league 2-3 yrs from now?

Personally, i'm stoked, and am excited about the team's future for the first time in a long time.

Yes. He will improve offensively. As they put more talent around him, he will be better. I mean you could argue he is top 10 right now.
Actually I think he's top 6-7 now. He is at 17 7 and 5 now. His shooting % is 40 and he turns the ball over a bit. But those are the two things he can improve if he wants it bad enough.

Duvalier 02-04-2014 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 963562)
Felton is the worst PG in the league that actually plays. He isnt even the best on his own team.

For you Chuck...some Felton highlights. NSFW because of Language.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wkbuylj5HA

Cannon Shell 02-05-2014 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 963852)
I was kind of basing it on potential since I think he still has room to improve...he has played some good all around games, just not consistently night after night. On that team he's the only player I'd take other than the two no-brainers. I wouldn't want anything at all to do with Dion Waiters.

He hasn't improved much this season which is troubling. He still has no real offensive game to speak of, is always lost on defense (which seems to be a team trait) and seems disinterested sometimes. You watch Cavs games and can go 1/2 the game without him making an impact play.

He has played 1600 minutes this year and has 41 assists, 20 steals and 22 blocked shots. Those are pretty soft raw numbers for a guy who lays 33 minutes a game. He is a really, really good rebounder and if he can develop a little go to move and work harder on the defensive end he can become a pretty good player but that team seems toxic for younger guys.

I'd love to see what a guy like Waiters could do with a team like the Spurs.

Cannon Shell 02-05-2014 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 963851)
Do you guys see Michael Carter-Williams as one of the top 6-7 point guards in the league 2-3 yrs from now?

Personally, i'm stoked, and am excited about the team's future for the first time in a long time.

This may sound crazy but in 3-4 years Carter Williams might be the top NBA PG in the league. He has physical attributes that few PG's have, is a natural playmaker (as opposed to so many of the other young PG's who are natural scorers), is already a pain in the ass on defense and should be in a good situation in Philly with low expectations to start with so unreasonable pressure wont inhibit his growth.

Of course his weaknesses are pretty glaring right now (shooting and turnovers) but those are both things that can be fixed. His numbers are a little deceiving because Philly plays at a breakneck pace but he is a potential star player. He was a steal at the 11th pick. The only caveat is that he is not that young so his improvement curve might not be as steep as a one and done guy but that is nit picking.

Cannon Shell 02-05-2014 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 963883)
For you Chuck...some Felton highlights. NSFW because of Language.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wkbuylj5HA

The guy talking is great!

"Another f'ing air lob"

Cannon Shell 02-05-2014 05:40 AM

Charlotte 91 Golden State 75

GS scored 13 more than Carmelo did against the Bobcats?

Duvalier 02-05-2014 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 963894)
I'd love to see what a guy like Waiters could do with a team like the Spurs.

The Spurs...you can probably even put Felton there and he'd prosper.

Cannon Shell 02-05-2014 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 963931)
The Spurs...you can probably even put Felton there and he'd prosper.

I have irrational hate for that guy.

Duvalier 02-05-2014 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 963933)
I have irrational hate for that guy.

You know he's going to go off tonight against Portland now...lol. Either that or he'll somehow hit the game winner.

Cannon Shell 02-05-2014 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 963937)
You know he's going to go off tonight against Portland now...lol. Either that or he'll somehow hit the game winner.

You cant reverse mush him into things. He is just that bad.

Cannon Shell 02-05-2014 10:09 PM

The Cavs!
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...zarre-nba-rule

cmorioles 02-05-2014 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 963895)
He was a steal at the 11th pick. The only caveat is that he is not that young so his improvement curve might not be as steep as a one and done guy but that is nit picking.

The Thunder were absolutely, 100% certain to take him if he were still around a few picks later.

cmorioles 02-05-2014 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 964016)

This rule seems a little ridiculous, particularly when Nash was DNP-Rest.

So if, for example, the Rockets are down to 6 and Dwight Howard fouls out, can you just say Asik is hurt or resting and keep him in?

asudevil 02-05-2014 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by asudevil (Post 963828)
Seeing lots of improvement from Anthony Bennett. At least Brown is giving him some meaningful minutes. 11 points last night, 4 for 4 FT, 1 for 2 from 3.

22 minutes and 14 points tonight. Possibly being showcased for a trade?

RockHardTen1985 02-05-2014 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by asudevil (Post 964020)
22 minutes and 14 points tonight. Possibly being showcased for a trade?

The knicks should give up Melo for him.
Then fire Woodson and build around Bennett, Shump and Hardaway. Plus the Cavs would def. throw a pick in.

cmorioles 02-05-2014 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 964021)
The knicks should give up Melo for him.
Then fire Woodson and build around Bennett, Shump and Hardaway. Plus the Cavs would def. throw a pick in.

Sounds like a strategy for about 12 wins a year.

RockHardTen1985 02-05-2014 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 964022)
Sounds like a strategy for about 12 wins a year.

You cant be a Melo fan?? And clearly it would be more like Bennett, Waiters and a #1. The Knicks need picks.

Cannon Shell 02-06-2014 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 964018)
This rule seems a little ridiculous, particularly when Nash was DNP-Rest.

So if, for example, the Rockets are down to 6 and Dwight Howard fouls out, can you just say Asik is hurt or resting and keep him in?

Well you do get a technical in addition to any regular foul he commits. So an off the ball foul becomes 2 shots and the ball. A shooting foul can be 2 shots plus the technical foul shots plus the ball.

Cannon Shell 02-06-2014 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by asudevil (Post 964020)
22 minutes and 14 points tonight. Possibly being showcased for a trade?

Why would they trade him?

Cannon Shell 02-06-2014 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 964021)
The knicks should give up Melo for him.
Then fire Woodson and build around Bennett, Shump and Hardaway. Plus the Cavs would def. throw a pick in.

I don't think you'd have to fire Woodson if you did this. He'd surely quit.

Dolan is an idiot but even he isn't that stupid

Cannon Shell 02-06-2014 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 964023)
You cant be a Melo fan?? And clearly it would be more like Bennett, Waiters and a #1. The Knicks need picks.

Let's pretend for a minute that the Knicks would do this if Cleveland gave them Bennett, Waiters, and 3 number 1's or something like that. What are the odds that Anthony would re-up with Cleveland? 200-1?

lol

knickslions2 02-06-2014 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 964021)
The knicks should give up Melo for him.
Then fire Woodson and build around Bennett, Shump and Hardaway. Plus the Cavs would def. throw a pick in.

One thing I can always count on from this thread is a good laugh.

cmorioles 02-06-2014 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 964028)
Well you do get a technical in addition to any regular foul he commits. So an off the ball foul becomes 2 shots and the ball. A shooting foul can be 2 shots plus the technical foul shots plus the ball.

You don't get the ball for a tech in the NBA, only flagrants. Possession remains where it was. It is rarely going to ever come up, but it could be abused, that is all I'm saying. I don't like that a guy is dressed and DNP-Rest, yet they can keep a guy in that fouled out.

cmorioles 02-06-2014 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 964023)
You cant be a Melo fan?? And clearly it would be more like Bennett, Waiters and a #1. The Knicks need picks.

Not particularly, but you said build around three average players.

asudevil 02-06-2014 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 964029)
Why would they trade him?

Get rid of the salary. Plus Brown hates him.

Cannon Shell 02-06-2014 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 964050)
You don't get the ball for a tech in the NBA, only flagrants. Possession remains where it was. It is rarely going to ever come up, but it could be abused, that is all I'm saying. I don't like that a guy is dressed and DNP-Rest, yet they can keep a guy in that fouled out.

How can they tell if a guy is injured or not? They dont designate DNP's until after the game.

Cannon Shell 02-06-2014 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by asudevil (Post 964056)
Get rid of the salary. Plus Brown hates him.

What could you possibly hope to get for him now unless he is included in some sort of package with other guys? They dont have a whole lot of money committed for next year especially if they move Varejao. I suppose they might be making space for LeBron but the chances him coming back to that mess are slimmer than slim.

I guess the guy that made the pick just got fired so anything is possible. Of course that might mean Brown is on shakier grounds too. You'd just think they'd ride it out another year and see if he can raise his value just a little bit.The guy is shooting 28% from the field lol.

cmorioles 02-06-2014 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 964063)
How can they tell if a guy is injured or not? They dont designate DNP's until after the game.

Exactly...so if they have the choice between putting a scrub in that hasn't played, or keeping a star in that *might* foul and result in an extra free throw, nothing more, that seems like an easy choice.

If a guy is dressed and hasn't played, how can he be hurt? Easy rule to fix, you don't dress if you can't play.

Cannon Shell 02-06-2014 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 964067)
Exactly...so if they have the choice between putting a scrub in that hasn't played, or keeping a star in that *might* foul and result in an extra free throw, nothing more, that seems like an easy choice.

If a guy is dressed and hasn't played, how can he be hurt? Easy rule to fix, you don't dress if you can't play.

Being that it has happened once in 30 years I doubt they will bother changing rules. Especially ones that allowed Robert Sacre more playing time.

cmorioles 02-06-2014 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 964068)
Being that it has happened once in 30 years I doubt they will bother changing rules. Especially ones that allowed Robert Sacre more playing time.

I agree, they won't, until somebody abuses it.

Cannon Shell 02-06-2014 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 964072)
I agree, they won't, until somebody abuses it.

Tim Duncan is out for tonights game. Designated as (rest). I guess rest is now an NBA injury

asudevil 02-06-2014 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by asudevil (Post 964056)
Get rid of the salary. Plus Brown hates him.

They just sh1t canned the GM

Duvalier 02-06-2014 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 964074)
Tim Duncan is out for tonights game. Designated as (rest). I guess rest is now an NBA injury

Should be quite the lineup Popovich puts out there tonight against the Nets. Saw where Diaw is questionable now too.

Cannon Shell 02-06-2014 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 964103)
Should be quite the lineup Popovich puts out there tonight against the Nets. Saw where Diaw is questionable now too.

Yeah no Parker, Duncan, Ginobelli, Leonard, maybe Diaw...

Cannon Shell 02-09-2014 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 964103)
Should be quite the lineup Popovich puts out there tonight against the Nets. Saw where Diaw is questionable now too.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/qa...ity-chemistry/

Duvalier 02-09-2014 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 964640)

Thanks for posting that...great interview with Wesley, I hadn't seen that. He always comes across as a good guy and a true pro. Obviously he doesn't get the recognition that Aldridge and Lillard get, but without him I don't think Portland is in the position they are and I doubt they're even in the playoff discussion...he's a big key to their success.


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