Yeah, it must suck being ridden by one the greatest riders ever.

Hey BTW: DrugS has a post thats 95% accurate and you say he is "basically all wrong". Sniper makes a good post and you say he is "incorrect". Amongst it all you slam one of the all time great riders!

You're acting like are a monday morning quarterback who missed Sundays game. BBB

First of all, DrugS is a personal friend of mine, and I was joking with him. I also happen to disagree with him, but that's because unlike you I follow Aqueduct, so I speak from strength, while you are just trolling.

I also disagree with Sniper, but was engaging him in conversation, whereas once again you are just trolling and offering nothing to the discussion.

Furthermore, in your trolling, you twisted my comments concerning Pat Day. If you actually saw some of his rides, the Louisianna Derby in particular, aboard Dollar Bill and think they were good I would be more than willing to discuss it with you.

I happened to peruse another message board last night where I had a most enjoyable time reading many condescending posts from you. One thing you did post that I found myself agreeing with wholeheartedly was your ringing endorsement of Steve Crist's latest book, " Exotic Wagering ". You might want to take a look at the short list of acknowledgements, as there's at least, according to you, one " monday morning quarterback " on it.

Keep on trollin'.

Blackthroat,
Thanks for the update.
I've long been a fan of Corinthian, and Jim J as well.
If anyone can bring him back better, Jim J can and will.
Heck, this was his derby horse, right?
I'm still a believer. Jim J will have a good year.
And again, thanks for the info.
DTS

Wait--I gave the update on Corinthian, BTW just decided to give his opinion of the horse. I like J Jerkens. I like Corinthian and I think we will see him do some good things in the year 2007.

Well then...THANK YOU EURO TOO!!

Oh I was kidding. Any good home farm news to report DTS?

Please report to the Lessons Learned from Chickens thread. :p

J/K... couldn't resist. :D

Cajun, you are going to have to clue me in a little on what the Lessons Learned from the Chickens thread is? I don't know what you are saying.

You'd have to ask DTS....I'm not very sure that anyone else really knows what any of it means :D

I know I am slow at times--like you said--you hope I never get lost in the woods. But I am glad I am not alone on this one.

Did i really say that?

I think so. I posted a thread and I stated I couldnt find a thread already on the subject. It turns out that the thread was a couple of threads down on the page. I think it was you. It was funny, so go ahead and take the credit. If it wasn't you, then I am sorry.

Euro,
Winter on the farm is pretty quiet lately. Good news is that Ciel Bonne and Daring Day are named and registered. Shot o' Bourbon and Darlin' by Day will be moving out soon.
As far as "lessons learned from chickens" goes...well, it's in the "politics" room.
Though some might not agree with what I have to say, it gives me a place to share some thoughts..or insanity. It's all about how you look at some things.

Well it's tough when gelding the horse isn't a decision I can make. If that happened I think he'd be a very good horse. As it is I think the chance of him not amounting to much is a lot more likely than becoming a very good horse. Doesn't mean I'm not going to hope that he does magically get his act together and become a top horse or discount the possibility that it could happen. I don't really see why they'd bring him back this year if they didn't think it could happen.

It's funny that I like two different Jimmy Jerkens horses. I couldn't pick the guy out of a lineup and don't know anything about him yet Corinthian and Sir Greeley are two of my favorite horses out there.

Oh, and I'm thinking the chances of Sir Greeley winning a G1 this year aren't looking too bad right now. I think the Carter and Met Mile are both ripe for the picking. Latent Heat is the frontrunner for the Carter at least and he's never struck me as that great of a horse. Latent Heat and Sun King will probably be the frontrunners for the Met Mile unless Discreet Cat shows up and neither of them are unbeatable either. Unfortunately with his recent record he's more likely to run 2nd in both than win either.

Yeah...has some ability. But until he shows he wasnt a one race wonder I will continue to ridicule him......saying he will be a threat to the handicap division is rather comical.

Nothing wrong with rooting for Corinthian but I just never saw all this ability that everyone else did. I believe last year's FOY was a VERY bad race. To me Corinthian looks like yet another horse that will probably never race again and if he does it will not be very well. But I've been wrong before.

As for Sir Greeley....you're delusional. You have some deep affection for the horse that is severly clouding your judgement. I hope he makes all your dreams come true. Good luck to that.

Thanks, I will have to check out that thread. Good to hear that everything is good on the farm.

I agree. Definetly wide open. Premium tap looks like the real deal. Invasor is a monster. Who knows where Discreet Cat will end up. Lava Man has zero shot running outside of Cali...he should stay out there beating up on former claimers/hasbeens. Sweetnorthernsaint to me is a a nice horse....but has yet to prove he is top tier. Chatain looks like a very promising horse...lightly raced....I know he had a nice set up in last...but man...great race. One of my old favorites is supposedly gonna run again...Brass Hat....but he is coming off of a few bad injuries...if he was to get back to 100 percent he would be a top threat. SHould be an interesting year in the older division.

First ripping Zito....then Nascar....now Pat Day. Congrats...you hit the "Ignore This Poster" Trifecta.......

Pat Day was beyond overrated....

Blackthroat,
You could be entirely right with this.
Heck, just getting a horse back on the track after a serious injury shows me some hope. About as easy as breaking a cribber of the chewing.
We'll just have to wait and see.
Wherever Blockhead is nowadays, he knows that I put Corinthian out on here before the bad stuff happened. I'd like to see both Corinthian and Blocky back. Just might liven things up for the unbelievers, uhh, fans.

I will let Pat Day's record speak for itself.

Pat Day was no more skilled than many other riders of his time...he was fortunate to be fed excellent mounts and have the right connections. He really wasnt that "great" a rider.

I was just looking back at the Past Performances for the FOY. It actually wasn't as bad as I thought. First Sam was coming off a bunch of nice races (103/98/107), Great Point and My Golden Song had just lost by a small margin to Barbaro. Rehoboth was coming off a nice allowance win. Flashy Bull was showing some promising form at the time. Jazil was in the race as well. Not a good field but nowhere near as bad as the Dwyer. I think the real question that has to be answered was what was going on at the end of the race. Were we seeing a tiring horse veering out in the stretch because he was out of gas or were we seeing a horse with a lot left that got to the lead too early and started goofing off displaying his Buckpasser genes? If it is the former then there is little reason to expect he will improve significantly off that race. If it was the latter then there is reason to believe he could be very good.

We'll see if I look delusional or not come May. I bet Sir Greeley hits the board in both and I think it is 20-1 that he wins one of them.

If you say so. But I guess 9 TC winners (and the only jock to win the Preakness 3 straight times). He also won the Canadian Triple Crown. And he holds the all time record for Breeders Cup wins with 12. I guess that is pretty much luck

Listen...I am not saying he was a horrible jock. He had a long career...so of course he was going to get the wins. But he wasn't one of the greats....McCarron..Eddie D....Pincay...Cordero...Stevens......they were the great ones from his time....I am probably forgetting a few....Day was nowhere near the jockey those guys were...

Thank god that night when he was all whacked out on heroin in a hotel room that god magically appeared from his tv and told him to straighten out his life....who knows what dumpster he would be residing in today calling home

Yeah--too bad Antley didnt have God pop out of his tv like Day. But Day did more on the track than Stevens, McCarron, Eddie D and Cordero did. I would say that Pincay is the top dog. Personal preference is all.

Day was better than McCarron?????? Cordero?????

You are clearly nuts and/or clueless.

This time I am gonna ignore you.

Adios......

Make your case as to why McCarron and Cordero are better. Change my mind. I am totally open to your logic. Go ahead and convince me.

Sorry.....I made a donation to charity already this month. I have no interest in helping you. Try me again next month.

So basically you can't? The numbers that Day has are much better than McCarron or Cordero.

BTW, I fully respect that you've seen lots of great horses and all, but the thing is, there are very few great horses in training right now and a lot of Grades Stakes races...so I'm just wondering, if none of these victories are going to Jazil, Corinthian and all of the other horses you claim to be doubtful of victory...who is winning them? The few horses of quality would be lucky to start 4-6 times this year.

Numbers huh?

So if you are a numbers guy where do guys like Rusell Baze and David Gall fall into your opinion? 3rd and 4th?

Numbers are not the end all to determine if a guy was "great".

Pat Day has the numbers.....but he couldnt wash either McCarron's or Cordero's jockstraps.



Clearly you arent worth wasting my time on.......adios

Strong Pretender of course. :rolleyes:

Euro,
I should write this in the other thread, you know which one.
It should be titled "fishing".
Goes like this...
Makes a cast.
Splashes down.
Lucky it didn't end up in the tree. Whewww!
Waits for the ripples to go away.
Waiting, waiting, waiting.
Gives it a twitch.
Nothing.
Gives it another.
Nope. That big one ain't comin' out.
Lockjaw is plenty frustrating.
Comeon ya big dumbass!
Nope...
So the jerk on one end of the line expecting a jerk on the other end reels in.
Cussin' while his rowboat slowly sinks.
Ain't no charity here!
And the DAY is made.
Glub, glub!
See ya Ahab!

Wayne,

I hope you know I was kidding...

Speaking of excellent Pat Day mounts, Easy Goer was one of my favorite horses of all time... Easy Goer and Sunday Silence got me into watching horseracing as a kid. Silver Charm started the actual addiction.

Jaimie,
Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't.
Now if we got down to really talkin' about how to select the freshest oysters or the firmest melons....all I can say is... I'M WITH YA, BABE!
Now, let's just get back to pickin' the KD winner...that would be more than enough for me, and hopefully you too!
Heck, let's have a TC winner this year. I'm ready, you?
W

You were dead on about Easy Grades... those three wins are more than Corinthian and Steppenwolfer will have in 07 combined...

Im still waiting for my Byanosejoe predictions to come true...

When did Easy grades win those races?

Wasn't he running for a 10K tag at Hawthorne last winter and maybe Churchill?

Hey, he was still winning though!