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docicu3 01-13-2007 01:17 PM
Are we leaving out Chrissie and the Pretenders or is the edge just a little too rough.......that had alot of hits and a sound that was somewhat unique.

And at least an honorable mention to Annie Lennox and the Eurthymics (sp?)
Great voice......hubby not bad with an axe.

brianwspencer 01-13-2007 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by docicu3
Are we leaving out Chrissie and the Pretenders or is the edge just a little too rough.......that had alot of hits and a sound that was somewhat unique.
Someone mentioned them -- and then I felt remiss for not thinking about them off the top of my head! Theyre awesome.

TheSpyder 01-13-2007 02:48 PM
Big Brother
 
Sorry, but no one holds a candle to Janis Joplin. That girl could kick out a tune bigger and better than anyone. The female James Brown,,,,with a fifth a liquor!

Byebyemermaid 01-13-2007 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by somerfrost
The thread about 3 member bands got me to thinking, what are the best rock bands featuring a female front (lead singer)? My list would be:
1) Big Brother and the Holding Company (have to be #1)
2) Jefferson Airplane (Starship)
3) Heart
4) Fleetwood Mac (I think between the two they'd qualify)
5) Blondie
6) Juliette & the Licks (yes I like them this much)
7) The Plasmatics
8) Bif Naked (Ok, group & her name)
9) Stone Poneys
10) 'Til Tuesday
Any thoughts?
Linda Ronstadt and the Stone Ponys.And there song,"different drum" written by Michael Nesmith of the Monkees whose mother was one of the inventors of white out.

pmayjr 01-13-2007 04:22 PM
The Yeah Yeah Yeahs folks. Karen O is amazing.

Another suggestion if you're willing to give them a shot, the Go! Team. ****in Amazing.

pmayjr 01-13-2007 04:25 PM
Another- Stereolab. Some of the most mellow melodic stuff around.

I know these bands might be obscure to y'all that listen to your mainstream pop top 40 b.s., but if you're missing out if you don't give these bands a listen.

pmayjr 01-13-2007 04:27 PM
**** I keep coming up with more-

The Brazilian Girls... another good one. It's really 3 dudes and 1 female lead singer.

pdrift1 01-15-2007 04:51 AM
lita ford

pmayjr 01-15-2007 02:19 PM
Pdrift,

This topic is about BANDS with female leads. Not just female singers. If you wanna go females singers you can start naming eveyone uder the sun.


Here are some Stereolab samples that some of you might enjoy. These aren't downloads, they're just links to a page and the song will start playing. Enjoy
http://www.song2play.com/s/stereolab...ar-182761.html
http://www.song2play.com/s/stereolab...ng-182787.html
http://www.song2play.com/s/stereolab...st-182791.html
http://www.song2play.com/s/stereolab...re-182762.html

pgardn 01-15-2007 03:21 PM
The best of the old for me:

Heart
Fleetwood Mac
The Motels
The Eurythmics
The Pretenders
Missing Persons

For fun:
The Go Go's


For those who like to get lulled into a state of bliss and probably the most talented musically with a great voice:

Enya

Best Voice Ever:
Kate Bush

And for the slightly newer stuff not rapish:

Cheryl Crowe
Alanis Morisette

And then for the one song that I have no idea why I like:
The PussyCat Dolls

Dont you wish your girlfriend was raw like me
Dont you wish your girlfriend wore a bra like me (my lyrics added)

Dont ya.... (hit the trumpet and sax hard)

pmayjr 01-15-2007 10:33 PM
Once again... no offense Pgard. BANDS! BANDS! BANDS! with female fronts. Not solo female artists. Otherwise let's just start throwing Madonna and Mariaiah and Janet and bla bla bla bla out there. BANDS with a FEMALE front is the topic here.

Where they act is considered a "BAND" not a solo artist

And "SOLO ARTIST" with a backing band does not count in my eyes either.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-16-2007 07:37 AM
the runaways
lita ford..

pgardn 01-16-2007 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by pmayjr
Once again... no offense Pgard. BANDS! BANDS! BANDS! with female fronts. Not solo female artists. Otherwise let's just start throwing Madonna and Mariaiah and Janet and bla bla bla bla out there. BANDS with a FEMALE front is the topic here.

Where they act is considered a "BAND" not a solo artist

And "SOLO ARTIST" with a backing band does not count in my eyes either.
Enya writes her own stuff, she is her own band. She can play almost all the intruments but cant be in every spot, probably why she tours infrequently if at all.

The others did start out with their own bands, they play intruments unlike the Solo Artists you gave out. The artists you gave out are simply sex symbols with great voices that can dance. I think my women/bands are different.

And I thank you.

somerfrost 01-16-2007 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pmayjr
Once again... no offense Pgard. BANDS! BANDS! BANDS! with female fronts. Not solo female artists. Otherwise let's just start throwing Madonna and Mariaiah and Janet and bla bla bla bla out there. BANDS with a FEMALE front is the topic here.

Where they act is considered a "BAND" not a solo artist

And "SOLO ARTIST" with a backing band does not count in my eyes either.
Who appointed you monitor of my thread? I posted this to get folks ideas, everyone has stayed pretty much on topic...damn!

brianwspencer 01-16-2007 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by somerfrost
Who appointed you monitor of my thread? I posted this to get folks ideas, everyone has stayed pretty much on topic...damn!
But in all honesty, are we talking about artists or bands? They're two totally different things, and Alanis Morissette does not qualify as a "band." No solo artists qualifies as a band, because they are not a band but in fact, a solo artist.

I think that Catie Curtis and Deb Talan and Edie Carey and Anne Heaton are better than many listed in this thread, but they aren't bands -- so I didn't add them in because that wasn't what the thread was about.

somerfrost 01-16-2007 01:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by brianwspencer
But in all honesty, are we talking about artists or bands? They're two totally different things, and Alanis Morissette does not qualify as a "band." No solo artists qualifies as a band, because they are not a band but in fact, a solo artist.

I think that Catie Curtis and Deb Talan and Edie Carey and Anne Heaton are better than many listed in this thread, but they aren't bands -- so I didn't add them in because that wasn't what the thread was about.
Ok, ok...see new thread!

pmayjr 01-16-2007 01:23 PM
Somer,
Brian said it perfectly. That's all i was saying, is the artsts listed weren't in bands. They're solo artists. So thanks for starting the new thread. Pgard, do you understand my reply to you now? Because when you replied to my reply, you still seemed clueless.

pgardn 01-16-2007 02:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by brianwspencer
But in all honesty, are we talking about artists or bands? They're two totally different things, and Alanis Morissette does not qualify as a "band." No solo artists qualifies as a band, because they are not a band but in fact, a solo artist.

I think that Catie Curtis and Deb Talan and Edie Carey and Anne Heaton are better than many listed in this thread, but they aren't bands -- so I didn't add them in because that wasn't what the thread was about.
Wrongo. Alanis Morrissette did have a band when she was young. She played in a local dive. So its just when they become famous and their hits are with backups? So Tom Petty does not have a band except when it was called the Heart Breakers, and getting a new man at a position disqualifies. Or Bachman Turner overdrive is not a band, its just two guys with some sit ins? So what is the definition of a band? I think you see what I mean. Or when one person that was in a band is no longer a band when they play with other sit ins. So Phil Collins only counts when he played with Genesis? Is that what we are saying?

PJ the examples you gave are people that do not play instruments, most do not write their own stuff, and they are popular because they dance and are sex symbols. The line gets blurred here. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers is or is not a band? And Annie Lennox is/was the Eurthymics... gimme a break here fellas.

pmayjr 01-16-2007 05:54 PM
Gwen Stefani is a solo act. I don't give a **** if she tours and has a backing band. THAT DOESN'T COUNT!

Gwen Stefnai as a part of No Doubt, is a BAND with a female lead singer. Because No Doubt is a BAND. Gwen Stefani IS NOT A BAND.

You're absolutely right Pgardn. Phil Collins IS NOT A BAND. Genesis is a BAND.

pdrift1 01-18-2007 04:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pmayjr
Gwen Stefani is a solo act. I don't give a **** if she tours and has a backing band. THAT DOESN'T COUNT!

Gwen Stefnai as a part of No Doubt, is a BAND with a female lead singer. Because No Doubt is a BAND. Gwen Stefani IS NOT A BAND.

You're absolutely right Pgardn. Phil Collins IS NOT A BAND. Genesis is a BAND.
lol dude you need to chill, its not life or death here lmfao .your making a big deal about nothing. so if you asked her drummer what band he plays for , would he say i don't play in a band, he could say lita ford which in some peoples eyes see the rest of them as a band along with her regardless if its her name , i can understand your point but it can go both ways . forget about it

pdrift1 01-18-2007 04:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by brianwspencer
But in all honesty, are we talking about artists or bands? They're two totally different things, and Alanis Morissette does not qualify as a "band." No solo artists qualifies as a band, because they are not a band but in fact, a solo artist.

I think that Catie Curtis and Deb Talan and Edie Carey and Anne Heaton are better than many listed in this thread, but they aren't bands -- so I didn't add them in because that wasn't what the thread was about.
how do you know how much input those other members have in the band and influence her? if they have input and influence she is no longer a SOLO artist.

pdrift1 01-18-2007 04:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pmayjr
Gwen Stefani is a solo act. I don't give a **** if she tours and has a backing band. THAT DOESN'T COUNT!

Gwen Stefnai as a part of No Doubt, is a BAND with a female lead singer. Because No Doubt is a BAND. Gwen Stefani IS NOT A BAND.

You're absolutely right Pgardn. Phil Collins IS NOT A BAND. Genesis is a BAND.
off subject pmay, but one of the best bands ever in the twin cities, that ive seen countless times and i'm sure youve heard of them and would agree and am surprised they didnt get signed by a major label at some point before thay hung it up was greazy meal!!!!!!!!!!

brianwspencer 01-18-2007 04:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pgardn
Wrongo. Alanis Morrissette did have a band when she was young. She played in a local dive. So its just when they become famous and their hits are with backups? So Tom Petty does not have a band except when it was called the Heart Breakers, and getting a new man at a position disqualifies. Or Bachman Turner overdrive is not a band, its just two guys with some sit ins? So what is the definition of a band? I think you see what I mean. Or when one person that was in a band is no longer a band when they play with other sit ins. So Phil Collins only counts when he played with Genesis? Is that what we are saying?
PG: You're right. Phil Collins is not a band. Genesis is a band. Just because Phil Collins was in Genesis, he is no longer a band when he goes out without Genesis. Then he is a solo artist. Phil Collins kicks ass, so he "counts" whether he is solo or in a band. That's the best definition anyone could give for it. Alanis Morissette having been in a band does not make Alanis Morissette a band. One person cannot be a band (except for that guy at Venice Beach who plays a washboard and stomps on drums while playing a harmonica and a guitar). It's simple. It's an artist (a person's name) or a band (a band name).

Examples of solo artists:
Phil Collins
Natalie Merchant
Laura Dawn
Nina Gordon

Examples of their respective bands:
Genesis
10,000 Maniacs
Fluffer
Veruca Salt

Quote:
Originally Posted by pdrift1
how do you know how much input those other members have in the band and influence her? if they have input and influence she is no longer a SOLO artist.
Input doesn't matter, they are not a band. Let's use Alanis Morissette again here. It doesn't matter if her band comes up with parts or influences the way she writes or performs....they are still HER band. She is not a band. One person cannot be a band -- it defies the definition of the word in the first place.

I can attest to this personally. I played plenty of shows with a band when I was in college. We gigged together, we worked on harmonies together, we worked on songs together. We were not a band. When the flyer went up it said "Brian W. Spencer." I am not a band. I can gaurantee you that. I actually even know how it feels -- there is no way no matter who plays with me or who influences that the name "Brian W. Spencer" is a band. I know, because I'm Brian W. Spencer....that's me. I'm not a band. I'm one person. The very definition of the word dictates that I cannot be a band.


It's really neither here nor there, and in the big scheme not a big deal -- but there is a very distinct, and for some people, very important difference between being solo and being IN a band, let alone insinuating that one solo artist can be a band.

mclem10011 01-18-2007 04:38 PM
Female bands.......
 
I always thought Susanna Hoffs of the Bangles was pretty hot! Although most of their songs weren't released, THEY ESCAPED lol! Anyone remember the metal band Vixen? They were gorgeous girls, i actually bought one of TAPES, yes i said TAPES (long before CD's and post 8-track of course), that was the way to go! LOL

pdrift1 01-18-2007 04:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by brianwspencer
PG: You're right. Phil Collins is not a band. Genesis is a band. Just because Phil Collins was in Genesis, he is no longer a band when he goes out without Genesis. Then he is a solo artist. Phil Collins kicks ass, so he "counts" whether he is solo or in a band. That's the best definition anyone could give for it. Alanis Morissette having been in a band does not make Alanis Morissette a band. One person cannot be a band (except for that guy at Venice Beach who plays a washboard and stomps on drums while playing a harmonica and a guitar). It's simple. It's an artist (a person's name) or a band (a band name).

Examples of solo artists:
Phil Collins
Natalie Merchant
Laura Dawn
Nina Gordon
Examples of their respective bands:
Genesis
10,000 Maniacs
Fluffer
Veruca Salt



Input doesn't matter, they are not a band. Let's use Alanis Morissette again here. It doesn't matter if her band comes up with parts or influences the way she writes or performs....they are still HER band. She is not a band. One person cannot be a band -- it defies the definition of the word in the first place.

I can attest to this personally. I played plenty of shows with a band when I was in college. We gigged together, we worked on harmonies together, we worked on songs together. We were not a band. When the flyer went up it said "Brian W. Spencer." I am not a band. I can gaurantee you that. I actually even know how it feels -- there is no way no matter who plays with me or who influences that the name "Brian W. Spencer" is a band. I know, because I'm Brian W. Spencer....that's me. I'm not a band. I'm one person. The very definition of the word dictates that I cannot be a band.


It's really neither here nor there, and in the big scheme not a big deal -- but there is a very distinct, and for some people, very important difference between being solo and being IN a band, let alone insinuating that one solo artist can be a band.
so what is MSG? lol

pdrift1 01-18-2007 04:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by brianwspencer
PG: You're right. Phil Collins is not a band. Genesis is a band. Just because Phil Collins was in Genesis, he is no longer a band when he goes out without Genesis. Then he is a solo artist. Phil Collins kicks ass, so he "counts" whether he is solo or in a band. That's the best definition anyone could give for it. Alanis Morissette having been in a band does not make Alanis Morissette a band. One person cannot be a band (except for that guy at Venice Beach who plays a washboard and stomps on drums while playing a harmonica and a guitar). It's simple. It's an artist (a person's name) or a band (a band name).

Examples of solo artists:
Phil Collins
Natalie Merchant
Laura Dawn
Nina Gordon

Examples of their respective bands:
Genesis
10,000 Maniacs
Fluffer
Veruca Salt



Input doesn't matter, they are not a band. Let's use Alanis Morissette again here. It doesn't matter if her band comes up with parts or influences the way she writes or performs....they are still HER band. She is not a band. One person cannot be a band -- it defies the definition of the word in the first place.

I can attest to this personally. I played plenty of shows with a band when I was in college. We gigged together, we worked on harmonies together, we worked on songs together. We were not a band. When the flyer went up it said "Brian W. Spencer." I am not a band. I can gaurantee you that. I actually even know how it feels -- there is no way no matter who plays with me or who influences that the name "Brian W. Spencer" is a band. I know, because I'm Brian W. Spencer....that's me. I'm not a band. I'm one person. The very definition of the word dictates that I cannot be a band.


It's really neither here nor there, and in the big scheme not a big deal -- but there is a very distinct, and for some people, very important difference between being solo and being IN a band, let alone insinuating that one solo artist can be a band.
i think you know my point , i understand easily what your point is its just that i look at what you call solo artists and see and give respect to the rest of the band and dont let myself disregard them when i refer to them . just how we view it i guess thats all. some one could come up to me and say what band do you like and i would reply lita ford and i'm thinking of the whole group forget about her name , saying as lita ford the the band not i just like lita ford the singer by herself

brianwspencer 01-18-2007 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pdrift1
i think you know my point , i understand easily what your point is its just that i look at what you call solo artists and see and give respect to the rest of the band and and and dont let myself disregard them when i refer to them . just how we view it i guess thats all. some one could come up to me and say what band do you like and i would reply lita ford and i'm thinking of the whole group forget about her name , saying as lita ford the the band not i just like lita ford the singer by herself

If it's a matter of respecting the band, then I get your point. I guess that because I automatically respect the band, that I don't see it that way. But I get what they do and get what they're all about, as opposed to some who may not get the importance of and the crucial role that a band plays not only in artist performance, but artist development. I would never mean to demean those contributions.

So basically we're talking about the same thing -- you're just being more diplomatic to ensure that band members don't get the shaft ;)

pdrift1 01-18-2007 05:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by brianwspencer
If it's a matter of respecting the band, then I get your point. I guess that because I automatically respect the band, that I don't see it that way. But I get what they do and get what they're all about, as opposed to some who may not get the importance of and the crucial role that a band plays not only in artist performance, but artist development. I would never mean to demean those contributions.

So basically we're talking about the same thing -- you're just being more diplomatic to ensure that band members don't get the shaft ;)
exactly:)

brianwspencer 01-18-2007 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by pdrift1
so what is MSG? lol

i don't get it. you mean like the unnecessary starchy Chinese food ingredient?

pdrift1 01-18-2007 05:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by brianwspencer
i don't get it. you mean like the unnecessary starchy Chinese food ingredient?
lol no the mcauley schenker group

brianwspencer 01-18-2007 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pdrift1
lol no the mcauley schenker group
i got hungry for a second there.

pdrift1 01-18-2007 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
i got hungry for a second there.
now was he thinking of himself being the axe grinder he is and being a brother of one of the biggest bands in metal or was he saying yeah i'm the main driving force but i realize that we are still a band and i want us to be known that way. like you said some fans have total disregard for the rest of the band. and he and you and i see it differently then your average fan . i used to play also and have many friends in bands and i see the contributions we all make even tho when they hit the stage with a band name alot of fans latch to the lead singer anyways, he always gets the attention and comes to mind first for most fans

pdrift1 01-18-2007 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
i got hungry for a second there.
when i think of david lee roth in his band under his own name i surely see steve vai as his equal if not more. when i think david lee roth i think steve vai-guitar god. i dont think steve would say i play for david lee roth i think he would say i play in david lee roth

brianwspencer 01-18-2007 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pdrift1
now was he thinking of himself being the axe grinder he is and being a brother of one of the biggest bands in metal or was he saying yeah i'm the main driving force but i realize that we are still a band and i want us to be known that way. like you said some fans have total disregard for the rest of the band. and he and you and i see it differently then your average fan . i used to play also and have many friends in bands and i see the contributions we all make even tho when they hit the stage with a band name alot of fans latch to the lead singer anyways, he always gets the attention and comes to mind first for most fans
I think it takes a certain kind of person to do that, because there are tons of egos and tons of feelings to deal with.

When I had a band, I would be the first to tell you that all but one of them was more musically talented than me, but they had no desire to front anything. They wanted to play music, they didn't want to be the face of the music. That was okay with me. If we had stuck around together, I'd have had no problem calling us a band and taking a name -- but the fact remained that I was the one spending all the money and i was the one doing all the legwork in promotion and booking and travel arrangements etc, so in that sense, for me, it was never about ego -- but about the realities of who was doing what, and who wanted what.

i think for a lot of bands it's a big combination of those two -- who WANTS to be the face of it and who is comfortable in doing it, along with who is putting in what amount of work on the whole thing.

pgardn 01-18-2007 06:52 PM
Bachman-Turner Overdrive?

Tom Petty and the Heart Breakers?
Bruced SPringsteringer and the E-street band?

Annie Lennox is in the band The Eurythmics? She is/was the Eurythmics.
ELO replacable parts, Jeff Lynne was the band

I guess the problem I have is that some artists are the band, the other parts easily replaced and others are not.

Pure Band...
Rush
ZZ Top
Steely Dan (Donald Fagan needs his guitarists or its not the same)

brianwspencer 01-18-2007 06:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pgardn
Bachman-Turner Overdrive?

Tom Petty and the Heart Breakers?
Bruced SPringsteringer and the E-street band?

Annie Lennox is in the band The Eurythmics? She is/was the Eurythmics.
ELO replacable parts, Jeff Lynne was the band

I guess the problem I have is that some artists are the band, the other parts easily replaced and others are not.

Pure Band...
Rush
ZZ Top
Steely Dan (Donald Fagan needs his guitarists or its not the same)
Petty is an artist, and the Heart Breakers are his band. When it's a name AND the band then it's a little tougher to discern as they are more of a band, but Tom Petty is still a solo artist in that sense. Same with Bruce. There is no Alanis Morissette and the Screaming Banshees....that would pose the same quandry. Luckily, we've been spared and she's just a solo artist.

The Eurythmics are a band, whether Annie was irreplaceable or not, a band is a band is a band. Look what happened to 10,000 maniacs when Natalie Merchant left. She MADE the band. But they were still a band, and they replaced her and the 10,000 Maniacs still existed as a band....they just sucked without her.

It's all in the name really.

pgardn 01-18-2007 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Petty is an artist, and the Heart Breakers are his band. When it's a name AND the band then it's a little tougher to discern as they are more of a band, but Tom Petty is still a solo artist in that sense. Same with Bruce. There is no Alanis Morissette and the Screaming Banshees....that would pose the same quandry. Luckily, we've been spared and she's just a solo artist.

The Eurythmics are a band, whether Annie was irreplaceable or not, a band is a band is a band. Look what happened to 10,000 maniacs when Natalie Merchant left. She MADE the band. But they were still a band, and they replaced her and the 10,000 Maniacs still existed as a band....they just sucked without her.

It's all in the name really.

So its a mess. I know you guys that are really into music could make my confusion even foggier.

brianwspencer 01-18-2007 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by pgardn
So its a mess. I know you guys that are really into music could make my confusion even foggier.
Creating general confusion, pissing people off, and making asanine and uncalled for comments seems to be my niche on the board :D

It's not as confusing as you're making it though -- you've really got it, you're just overthinking it.

pmayjr 01-20-2007 12:07 PM
It really is all in a name-

If it's just one person's name, even if that one person has a backing band, it's still considered a solo artist. That's what y'all (except for Brian) don't seem to get. I'm just saying don't let this topic stray from what it is.

My favorite BAND/GROUP in the whole wide world, actually leads to some of the biggest confusion out there. My favorite group is Jamiroquai. And everybody juist thinks it's a "him", not a group. When they're really a group. It's just because everyone see's the just the guy who sings with the crazy hats, or this guy-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIvc4NH4jOE
and not usually the other emembers of the band. But they are a band.


BTW, Greazy Meal. They're allright. They got a niche in the TC area, but they've been around so long I don't think they'll ever bust out nationally.


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