I dont care about past games I care about the present matchup. THis particular matchup was 4 points only because of the Pats history. Brady's 11-1 record pregame should have made the Patriots huge favorites. I did not have any stake in this game whatsoever. But I would never ever take the Pats if that game was replayed. They should have been blown off the field. San Diego is the better team (and I really was not sure which team was better before the game). I always try and bet the best teams knowing that I have the greatest chance of winning, but I also realize the best team does not always win on the scoreboard. After watching that game, it is clear to me San Diego is a better team that lost.

But good for you if that was easy money. I think that was hard earned money. I would have been sweatin.

And N.O. was the better team last night, but they didn't cover. And the Bears were the best team today, but they didn't cover. And the Yankees are best baseball team year in and year out but they don't win the World Series. Again, the only way to make money, just like horse racing is to bet underdogs. Find the live ones and bet them. The best teams lose all the time.

I have better luck finding better teams getting points. College mostly. But the pros occasionally. The biggest one this year in the pros for me (really my brother) was St. Louis getting points at Oakland. We wait patiently. Oh well you got the money, so you got the bragging rights. Congrats.

appears I wasnt too off base...and I'll take the blow job every time :cool:

Hopefully you got both.

I dont like to brag, but the Patriots did win and I'd put last night in the "good night" column if you know what I mean haha

Leave it to Marty Ball !!!

2 dollar, that loss had absolutely nothing to do with marty ball. That had to do with two very bad turnovers( the last one was utterly retarded)

i'm going out on a limb.

i think new england wins this game but loses to eventual super bowl champ indianapolis. they'll trade a 4th round draft choice for randy moss and then come back 16-0 in 2007 and play san diego again for the afc championship.

i just have a feeling.

NO you are David Blaine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYxu_MQSTTY

Isn't Sid Gillman still the coach of the Chargers? He's known for his innovative defense, they may shut out the Patriots.

How about New England against the spread? 2-7 ATS in their last 9.

Hoss,
Where Vegas is really getting killed is on the over, they can't make it high enough. I don't have the exact # but during the middle of the season other than the Indy game they went over 10-11 weeks in a row.

I'd like the Bolts to beat the Patriots, but this game is probably going to get UGLY! I will probably load up on the Patriots -14.

Can't see this being a high scoring game, myself. I think that Chargers +14 is a massive bet.

I see no possible way the Chargers don't cover this. Call me crazy, but haven't they won 8 straight games?? NE a great team, but they are starting to get figured out...just not figured out good enough as someone mentioned they're 2-7 against the spread their last 9. If I were a betting man I would completely load up on the Chargers this game. I guess if Rivers is out that changes things...but even then...the Eagle backup and Kyle Boller beat the spread against them. Very easy money in my opinion to be made here.

i think the patriots win. and then win the super bowl. i know some teams have played some hellacious games against new england, managing to get themselves up for the game of their lives...but the pats still find a way to win. i don't see sunday being any different. and the chargers are pretty dinged up--rivers has a partial tear of his ACL, i don't see him playing. and i'm not sure how much LT will get accomplished, he's pretty sore as well.

Looks like pointgiven got a hold of horseofcourse's password. I think the Chargers will cover but I can see about 600,000 scenarios where the Patriots blow them out.

Patriots cover, eventhough I hate them!

41-17

it will be that bad!

17-1 is still a pretty good year

I don't know Irish...your fav Rivers looks like he will play..could be closer than most think.:)

I actually hope Rivers plays, I said it before and I mean it, Volek is a more dangerous QB than Rivers.

Don't get me wrong though, I would love for the Chargers to win, which is probably why I won't end up betting it.

It would be great for San Diego Chargers to win..cause it looks like in the future they may soon be called the Chula Vista Chargers.

I was just tweaking you on Rivers....I bet Billy plays most of the game...and so far I haven't been a fan of his ..but he played AOK last game.

Go Chargers!

I look at the success Volek had as a Titan, he was throwing the ball all over the field and putting up 300 yard games consistently with them, and with what Wr's????

If he has a great game Sunday...I'll be singing his praises 4 sure...

As much as I hate New England, I think they'll destroy San Diego. You don't go from 70 degree weather into 0 wind chill and not have it effect you. And if anyone wants to compare Jax going into Pitt, forget it. Jacksonville gets chillier than SD and it was about 30 degrees when they played at Pitt.

I do think the weather could be a problem for The Chargers, but it isn't as if they aren't expecting it. These professionals should be too focused to let the cold bother tham too much.

I wouldn't be concerned who started as Quarter back. Rivers has found some form in recent weeks and before he went off against The Colts he was looking pretty good.

I knew little about Volek before that game, but he impressed me in the final quarter, when most people thought The Chargers would fold without Rivers. I keep hearing about his success at The Titans with nothing like the offence he has to work with at San Diego. The only concern would be lack of game practice. A full game might be just out of reach.

I don't agree with those who think The Pats will run away with this one. Sure, they will almost certainly win, but I cannot see a winning margin any higher than 14.

The Pats defence will be tested to the limit with the Chargers recievers being massive to say the least. Jackon is huge and can collect almost anything at the moment.

Pats have come close to defeat a few times so I have heard this season and many have said it was the opposition making silly mistakes rather than the Pats being too good that have kept them undefeated this year.

Would love to see The Chargers win, but I think The Pats will just edge it.

I think the wind would have a bigger effect than the cold... unless your on the bench away from the warmers - can't see it making any difference.

I see you are from San Diego. If you think the cold will make no difference, you are crazy. Teams from California, Florida, Arizona, Texas and Louisiana have very poor ATS records when venturing into sub 32 degree weather. It takes several days to get adjusted. There's many people who've lived their whole lives in the north and still have trouble adjusting to winter.

ne 38 sd 14 shouldn't be the controlling factor here. this isn't week 2.

san diego might like the cold. and maybe they're healthier.

personally, i love san diego.

i just don't want to be there for the tidal wave.

See Tom Brady in strong wind in NE against the Jets. That's about all you need to know about this game.

A significant number of SD players have been on cold weather teams.
I dont think weather should be a problem. I think NE is the problem.

And LT not full speed...
Rivers????
Gates.....

SD does have two very good CB's. If they can possibly match up and allow some creativity on defense... Nah... NE. Rootin for San Diego.

!!!!!!!!!!!!

maroney gets a career high rushing and the pats win like in that game?

or the wind only blows against brady?

Raised in the snow/cold winter crap of upstate NY...got smart and left 25+ years ago...if necessary I could suit up in the cold no problem...I just choose not to..I like 70F and sunny better.

Keating kicks a field goal with no time left and Chargers win.....Brady has a bad day as Jessica Simpson decides to dump Romo and keeps waving at Tom during the game. He throws 12 interseptions and fumbles 5 times.....but gets Laid after the game...which is nice!

Go Chargers

Yes, hopefully by 7 or 10 points whichever it was. I think they are favored by 14. So yes, I would love it if the Pats win just like that game!! I think it will be an interesting game.

calling on yoko romo for help is a sign of desperation.