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I just saw that the FM Sprint is only 6 furlongs for this year and will be 7 furlongs in the future. Interesting. I guess some 6 furlong female sprinters will have to choose between running past their best distance or running with the boys.
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Sun King Lawyer Ron George Washington Brother Derek Not that these horses were the best in the field but some contributed to the pace factor. |
As much as the added races may weaken the fields for a few established races, the turf race will attract some Euros, the mile might allow a horse like Discreet Cat to participate in the BC even when the Shieks have a Bernardini, and the Filly and Mare Sprint will draw some really top mares who otherwise skip the Sprint so they don't have to face the top males. In my opinion, the pluses and minuses balance out.
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But you've also got to remember that we may look at it and say "oh, this horse is more suited to a dirt mile." Their connections may look at it and say, "oh, my horse is more suited to $5 Million instead of $1 Million." It's going to create some interesting decisions. Is $4 million a good enough reason to test your horse an extra quarter mile? If it's my horse it sure as heck is. |
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a belated xmas present!!
i am THRILLED to see this news. everytime it was asked, i said we need a filly sprint, a dirt mile. a two day festival. the turf for juvies an added bonus. i love that as well--how many more euro horses will we draw? how many will then stay to make the leap to dirt and the ky derby the following spring? also, we need to boost turf racing here in america, this is a great step. as an aside, the eclipse awards need to be expanded. this is fantastic, thanks for posting this news! and i guess this also explains the visit to monmouth a few months ago. you guys remember that? rumors started that maybe the bc would pull out, i guess they were just ironing out the details. |
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Two Superbowls...oh yea. If they do it right it will be a great way to promote the sport. Someone better realize this and take advantage of the time. Pre first day coverage...day one..post day one coverage...pre day two coverage...day two...post coverage. Lots of time to put horse racing out in front of the public. Makes me think of the post game golf shows that are so enticing on a Master's evenings getting ready for the next day.
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I think we are all looking forward to next years DrugS Salvatore Mile......and seventy. |
Enough of this ridiculous BC Turf sprint stuff. Could someone please name me a turf sprinter that deserved to race for a million dollar purse in the last decade, or even two?
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Let's not forget the old "Michigan Mile" at the old Detroit Race Course. The Michigan Mile was actually a mile and an eighth race.
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The only logical reason I can think of for adding a 2YO turf race is they are clearly trying to get more European participation. Seen how few of our 2YO races are carded on the grass, you'll probably see a bunch of recent Maiden graduates running in the Breeders Cup.
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Johannesburg ran in a big turf sprint....the July Cup. If you hurry over you can catch him finishing.
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personally I hate the idea of the BC over 2 days...and the need for these races is somewhat debatable for all of the reasons that have already been mentioned...while I enjoy the pagentry of the BC...in general I agree with the premise that it has been bad for racing overall. |
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I wasn't annointing them superstars of all time, but you have to admit, a turf sprint is a very interesting race, which would attract a broad mix of horses from both the US and Europe. My response was to the poster who said there are no such horses worthy of racing for a million dollars. That is just not so. |
This creates even more reason for revamping the Derby selection criteria. The top two finishers in the BC Juvenile Turf will be able to get into the Derby every year.
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We need another 2 year old race like we need another thread about Nick Saban. We need a turf sprint for the fans and bettors.
Not sure what it matters to anyone on this board whether or not so and so deserves to earn a million dollar purse. Put a turf sprint out there and I guarntee you as much money will be bet on that race as with any of the BC races save for the Classic. |
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At most there are VERY few. I'm sure if they scheduled a $250K Turf sprint they would get virtually the same field. What is the purse of the Prix de l'Abbaye...the big Euro turf sprint run on Arc day? |
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I'm ok with that too, I'd just like to see it included in the Breeders Cup, certainaly more so than the completely unecessary Juvenile Turf. You could just write a 100k race instead of a million for that group and the same horses would be in there. |
A turf sprint could have formed part of the global sprint challenge where the best from europe, asia and australia could have taken part.. that would have raised the world profile of the cup..
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A Breeders Cup all-weather race would make more sense than a turf sprint, IMO. By the end of next year, there's going to be quite a few all-weather tracks in the U.S. My guess is that would be the next race, IF they add any more.
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That was my point, BC races are worth a million, so why bother with a turf sprint when you only need to pay a little? Any of the horses you mentioned could have run in other races anyway.
If you have an all weather race, you now have two locations. My guess is BC races will just be run on polytrack if that is the venue. Noone is going to admit this stuff isn't dirt, and too many big tracks will have it so you won't be able to avoid them forever If for some reason they did run an "all weather" race, isn't that like admitting the surface is inferior? |
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Klassy Briefcase.
 The queen of Mid-atlantic 5 panel dashes. She had to go Across the Pond to find viable competition. Go Klassy ! |
Since they can't seem to get anything but di cked-up tracks for this so called "important day," I could really care less about it anymore.They have turned it into a meaningless crapshoot.
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for our 2yo G1 races, thats quite common. Authorized, won the Racing Post Trophy, a G1 race over a mile on his 2nd start. On his debut, he came third!! |
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They're races of a different color: 1 turn miles and 2 turn miles. Aldebaran was tried at 2 turns by Mr. Frankel and he failed at Churchill Downs. He was a 7 panel specialist and one of those types that really didn't fit neatly into the Breeder's Cup agenda. He should have just stayed home on that day instead of trying to weave through an impossible roadblock of equines from waay back. |
All righty now how about a Pick 11 or Place 11? Man that ticket would be the bomb if you hit it. At least you'll maybe able to get like a Sprint Double or Daily Double.
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