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Dixie Porter 12-23-2006 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by oracle80
Pais,
not to mention the anger and problems scratching as many should be scratched causes. Trainers screaming, track has to pay consos, bettors angry, etc.
I have never been mad about a late scratch in my life, because if my horse can't even warm up not being lame, then he sure as hell wasn't gonna win.

By the way if someone is indeed saving Shake You Down, you have my utmost respect and well wishes.
95% of vet scratches are made at the barn in the AM and the public has no oppurunity to bet on them (although they appear on the program).

I'm kinda surprised at you here Mike. Thought you would know that.;)

oracle80 12-23-2006 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Dixie Porter
95% of vet scratches are made at the barn in the AM and the public has no oppurunity to bet on them (although they appear on the program).

I'm kinda surprised at you here Mike. Thought you would know that.;)
I realize when they are made for teh most part.
But if you watch some of them warming up you can see how sore they are. I see it every day, and most are allowed to enter the gate.
Standing in a stall in the morning, even being jogged a little doesnt always reveal how sore they are. You watch em trying warm up on a given day and you can see the limpers at times who have no business being on teh track.

blackthroatedwind 12-23-2006 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Dixie Porter
This BS thread is getting worse post by post. I'd be very surprised if anyone buys this horse for his welfare. MAYBE for the PR value attached to it but that is remote at best.

I claimed Kilmoray for $10,000. Ran him down to $3500 and then Allen bought him for $4500 (he didn't claim from me) and turned him out. I'm pretty sure he was 11. This is the only such story I know of after being involved with 100's of horses "hands on" one way or another.

Won 5 races with A Deck when he was about 8 years old. Baitman won stakes @ 8 and Bobby and I helped him back to the barn @ Monmouth when he finally went. Sent him back to his breeders for pension. Got a nice letter saying he was happy and liked peppermints. Never knew horses bothered with peppermints before that. Always thought sugar and carrots were just fine.

Anyone wants they can look up what Hirsch did with Joe Jones and Paper Tiger. There's a zillion others but I'm not going to waste my time.

This kind of garbage is the down side of these forums. Readers sometimes believe that the clowns with the most posts are NOT the most ignorant members when it comes to racing. In reality, more often than not, they are.

Note to Bethani:

Horse's that get by the vet DO NOT FLOUNDER. As a matter of fact these claimers will probably be within 2 - 3 seconds of stake horse going the same distance the same day. Take the colors off and I guarantee you not one of these morons that is now moaning would know if he was watching a stake horse or a $5000, 6 year old claimer.

I think it's important to save these posts that Dicksie will delete eventually. Imagine a man so full of self loathing that he criticizes anybody and everybody, in as nasty a manner as possible, only to delete these tantrums when, I assume, his medication gets changed. At least, Dicksie, you could be a real man and stand behind what you say....otherwise your rants can only be taken for what they so obviously are....the sad tantrums of a failure who sadly looks back on his useless life and hates to see others succeeding in all the ways he failed.

Dixie Porter 12-23-2006 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Kasept
Then considered yourself 'surprised' as it's in the process of being done RIGHT NOW. And there's no P.R. involved as you're not going to know who it is that bought him FOR HIS WELFARE...
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There's really no need for caps here. If you have the goods it's not necessary to blow your "cool".

Kinda wonder why this has to be "top secret". Time for a credibility check.

I doubt if it were to occur that it would have a deep seeded impact on the game.

oracle80 12-23-2006 09:54 AM
Dixie all you have to do is watch and see if hes scratched from his next start, and I believe 100% that something is being done.
There are a few retirement foundations and I'm sure they would act to give a millionaire like Shake a nice home.

Kasept 12-23-2006 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Dixie Porter
There's really no need for caps here. If you have the goods it's not necessary to blow your "cool".

Kinda wonder why this has to be "top secret". Time for a credibility check.

I doubt if it were to occur that it would have a deep seeded impact on the game.
No.. Just a deep-seeded impact on the life of Shake You Down.

And those that are involving themselves in this don't care for the attention it would generate.

Danzig 12-23-2006 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Dixie Porter
There's really no need for caps here. If you have the goods it's not necessary to blow your "cool".

Kinda wonder why this has to be "top secret". Time for a credibility check.

I doubt if it were to occur that it would have a deep seeded impact on the game.
i bet you're a blast at ****tail parties. you always insult your host, or just here under a cloak of anonymity?

oracle80 12-23-2006 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I have to say, and this is total speculation on my part. But I am pretty disappointed in Mr. Cole. If Shake You Down is indeed purchased before he starts in a few days, I hope Mr. Cole enjoys that money. That is pure and disgusting greed. And a lack of appreciation for a horse that put you on the map as an owner. You would think that maybe something inside of him would realize that whomever is trying to buy him, is doing it for the right reason, and maybe Cole would smarten up. I'll never understand it.
I wonder if MR Cole ever intended to race this horse in that spot, or if he hoped for jjust such a reaction by someone to give him a good hime without HIM having to pay for it. I would guess that may have been his motivation.

oracle80 12-23-2006 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Bingo......
I agree, I think everyone should let everyone know who they are if they are going to cricticize everyone else.

paisjpq 12-23-2006 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by oracle80
I wonder if MR Cole ever intended to race this horse in that spot, or if he hoped for jjust such a reaction by someone to give him a good hime without HIM having to pay for it. I would guess that may have been his motivation.
that would make him an even biger A-hole

oracle80 12-23-2006 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by paisjpq
that would make him an even biger A-hole
Yes Bethani, and if I weer wagering as to his motivation in entering him for 5 grand, I'd wager this was exactly what he wanted.

Dixie Porter 12-23-2006 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Danzig188
i bet you're a blast at ****tail parties. you always insult your host, or just here under a cloak of anonymity?
1) I am not anonymous to the host. He's been buzzing around since August.

2) Our host has been threatening to ban me and deleting my posts for a week. I COULD be wrong, but I believe my post concerning BTW and the trolls was deleted by Byk. I doubt Bethani or the other guy from Bklyn. would bother.

Danzig 12-23-2006 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by oracle80
Yes Bethani, and if I weer wagering as to his motivation in entering him for 5 grand, I'd wager this was exactly what he wanted.
how ironic than that the horse in question is named shake you down!

oracle80 12-23-2006 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Danzig188
how ironic than that the horse in question is named shake you down!
LOL!!!!
Post of the month!!!

Kasept 12-23-2006 10:10 AM
An FYI..
 
As of NOW, posters will only be able to 'edit' for 30 minutes after they first post a message...

oracle80 12-23-2006 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I have let who I choose to talk to let know who I am. I'd let you know too, if you want. Anyone here can feel free to pm me if they want to know about me. Except maybe you, because I have enough pms about you wanting to meet you at your house to fight.
BLAH BLAH BLAH, I think I made my point.
The only people who should criticize the anonymous guys should be the ones who aren't anonymous themselves.
Pot calling the kettle black.

Dixie Porter 12-23-2006 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Kasept
As of NOW, posters will only be able to 'edit' for 30 minutes after they first post a message...


:D :D .....................

Danzig 12-23-2006 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Kasept
As of NOW, posters will only be able to 'edit' for 30 minutes after they first post a message...
perhaps that will engender a more level-headed approach to posting.
i wonder how many temper tantrum posts i've typed, but hit the 'back' button, rather than the submit button....gets the words out of the head, without anyone having to suffer thru reading them!

Danzig 12-23-2006 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by oracle80
BLAH BLAH BLAH, I think I made my point.
The only people who should criticize the anonymous guys should be the ones who aren't anonymous themselves.
Pot calling the kettle black.
i'm not criticizing anyone for being anonymous, i'm critical of their behavior based on that feeling of being safe and secure behind a keyboard! i know my postings are from me, not a persona. i communicate exactly as i do in person, which is why sometimes my posts can be misconstrued, as i have a very dry sense of humor. so much of what i type tongue in cheek seems to be serious to some, especially those not used to me.

paisjpq 12-23-2006 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Danzig188
perhaps that will engender a more level-headed approach to posting.
i wonder how many temper tantrum posts i've typed, but hit the 'back' button, rather than the submit button....gets the words out of the head, without anyone having to suffer thru reading them!
ooooh me too!

Danzig 12-23-2006 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by paisjpq
ooooh me too!
lol
people would be shocked i think...well, maybe not. i have a quick temper, but it cools pretty rapidly. i'd hate to put up something that i know five minutes later i would be embarrassed about typing--especially since it's not something i would say out loud. i try to walk away for a few minutes if someone ticks me off, so i don't put into words exactly what is in my head.

cooler heads must prevail.

oracle80 12-23-2006 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by paisjpq
ooooh me too!
Me three, I cancel a lot of posts myself Bethani. Take a long time to type them, then think and hit the back button.

Danzig 12-23-2006 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by oracle80
Me three, I cancel a lot of posts myself Bethani. Take a long time to type them, then think and hit the back button.
well, in my case i'm usually not completely p o'd by the time i type whatever i'm pounding out on my poor keyboard.
re-read and think, yikes, i better not put THAT up there.

paisjpq 12-23-2006 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Danzig188
lol
people would be shocked i think...well, maybe not. i have a quick temper, but it cools pretty rapidly. i'd hate to put up something that i know five minutes later i would be embarrassed about typing--especially since it's not something i would say out loud. i try to walk away for a few minutes if someone ticks me off, so i don't put into words exactly what is in my head.

cooler heads must prevail.
I do my absolute best to remain neutral (although I often have an opinion on the 'fight of the day') so I find myself writing things out and then just hitting the back button like you said.:D

brianwspencer 12-23-2006 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by oracle80
Me three, I cancel a lot of posts myself Bethani. Take a long time to type them, then think and hit the back button.
wow, i'd hate to see what THOSE posts look like -- the ones that even YOU think shouldn't be posted :D

Danzig 12-23-2006 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
wow, i'd hate to see what THOSE posts look like -- the ones that even YOU think shouldn't be posted :D
that IS a scary thought, isn't it??

oracle80 12-23-2006 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Danzig188
that IS a scary thought, isn't it??
:D I wish I had them saved on file Zieg, I could email them to you for hours of laughter and fun.

brianwspencer 12-23-2006 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by oracle80
:D I wish I had them saved on file Zieg, I could email them to you for hours of laughter and fun.
by the way, if you're going to be posting all day today -- i'd be careful to not waste post 6,000 on something useless.

As an avid watcher of the countdown to your 6,000th post, I am hoping for some sort of "state of New York Racing" comment, or some sort of backhanded, slightly offensive post directed towards another poster's ignorant comments -- your two best types of posts.

I can start making some stupid comments now if it will help you achieve a classic 6,000th post. These milestones are not to be wasted.

oracle80 12-23-2006 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
by the way, if you're going to be posting all day today -- i'd be careful to not waste post 6,000 on something useless.

As an avid watcher of the countdown to your 6,000th post, I am hoping for some sort of "state of New York Racing" comment, or some sort of backhanded, slightly offensive post directed towards another poster's ignorant comments -- your two best types of posts.

I can start making some stupid comments now if it will help you achieve a classic 6,000th post. These milestones are not to be wasted.
Most of my posts are comments back at someone in a thread thats already started. I haven't started too many threads. I also don't try and write a novel in every post. I may have a lotta posts, but I can bet you I don't have the most words typed here.

oracle80 12-23-2006 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
by the way, if you're going to be posting all day today -- i'd be careful to not waste post 6,000 on something useless.

As an avid watcher of the countdown to your 6,000th post, I am hoping for some sort of "state of New York Racing" comment, or some sort of backhanded, slightly offensive post directed towards another poster's ignorant comments -- your two best types of posts.

I can start making some stupid comments now if it will help you achieve a classic 6,000th post. These milestones are not to be wasted.
And I gotta go chief, good luck today, I have errands to run, and last minute Christmas shopping to do. Be out all day, take care.

brianwspencer 12-23-2006 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by oracle80
I may have a lotta posts, but I can bet you I don't have the most words typed here.

I believe that completely. Enjoy your Saturday -- I'll hunt down the milestone post after the weekend!

brianwspencer 12-23-2006 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Yeah, 302 isn't a lot.
look at you, you little sleuth.

brianwspencer 12-23-2006 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Kasept
As of NOW, posters will only be able to 'edit' for 30 minutes after they first post a message...
Hopefully everyone not following this thread will find out.

How do people updating their picks in the picks section update them with the results? Just make more posts below? I really enjoy how it's done now, for what it's worth!


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