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blackthroatedwind 12-20-2006 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CapperZeke
I only bet Pick-3's on Thursday's and won about 145K. I also married a super model, had my penis reduced, and scored 2 touchdowns in the Super Bowl. Not a bad year overall.


You too???????????

Pointg5 12-20-2006 01:08 PM

How long before BBB ends up in a signature?

CapperZeke 12-20-2006 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
You too???????????

I forgot to mention I haven't changed the water in my bong since 1983.

Cajungator26 12-20-2006 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CapperZeke
I forgot to mention I haven't changed the water in my bong since 1983.

Now THAT is some funny shiat... LMFAO!!! :D

Balletto 12-20-2006 01:39 PM

Im sure im down... but im not a serious enough handicapper to keep track. Although the TC races and the BC went fairly well for me.

TheSpyder 12-20-2006 01:47 PM

Well, this thread has been most refreshing and it would be nice to have an honestly meter tied into each response. For the interest of all of us that lost money, I'm going to start of thread so BellsBendBoy can post his picks for the next year.

That was we can all make lots of money and CapperZeke can earn enough to buy a bottle of Dom Perion for his Bong.

It sounds like many of us use the "Joe Frazer" approach. It's the 11th round, our heads are bashed in, we can even bring a thought forward, but the bell rings and we're ready for another race.

Spyder from SC

Rupert Pupkin 12-20-2006 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bellsbendboy
I would estimate I have bet around $1800 in 2006 and have earned about $32,000. I have had eleven signers so far in 2006. I bet 90 percent pick 4's all with serious homework. BBB

That would mean you only wager about $40 a week. How many pick 4s do you bet a week and for what size? You must be playing really small pick 4s if you are only betting $40 a week.

SCUDSBROTHER 12-20-2006 02:43 PM

Year isn't over yet.

Danzig 12-20-2006 02:45 PM

tony and i only managed one day of live racing. we live redneck deep in the bible belt, so no internet wagering allowed.
thusly, i am up on the year.

Danzig 12-20-2006 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CapperZeke
I only bet Pick-3's on Thursday's and won about 145K. I also married a super model, had my penis reduced, and scored 2 touchdowns in the Super Bowl. Not a bad year overall.

you are THE MAN! can i have your autograph?

Downthestretch55 12-20-2006 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
you are THE MAN! can i have your autograph?

i'm guessing he'll give you the sig...just bring your pom poms.

Honu 12-20-2006 02:54 PM

I blew about 20 bucks this year up from the 12 I fed the mutuals last year .I dont pay to get in or pay for parking or programs or forms, live 5 mins from the track and I bring my own "liquid" beverage so my coke expendature is about another 30 bucks.
The bonus is I always have a good time...:)

Danzig 12-20-2006 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5
How long before BBB ends up in a signature?

you mean like this??? lol

Pointg5 12-20-2006 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
you mean like this??? lol

You win the Major Award...

Danzig 12-20-2006 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5
You win the Major Award...

maybe it's a bowling alley.

ok, glad you saw it--so i can put the other back up til after christmas.

Downthestretch55 12-20-2006 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu
I blew about 20 bucks this year up from the 12 I fed the mutuals last year .I dont pay to get in or pay for parking or programs or forms, live 5 mins from the track and I bring my own "liquid" beverage so my coke expendature is about another 30 bucks.
The bonus is I always have a good time...:)

Honu,
Please sit down before you read this.
I haven't met a "fiscally restrained" woman like you.
Actually, I never dreamed I'd ever come across one.
And being as you love horses, work hard, and don't part with the hard earned bucks.... (DTers ...cover your ears cause it's between her and me)...

Will you marry me?

ps...I'll cover your expendatures.

Danzig 12-20-2006 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Honu,
Please sit down before you read this.
I haven't met a "fiscally restrained" woman like you.
Actually, I never dreamed I'd ever come across one.
And being as you love horses, work hard, and don't part with the hard earned bucks.... (DTers ...cover your ears cause it's between her and me)...

Will you marry me?

ps...I'll cover your expendatures.

easy now!!!! you'd be surprised how many women don't fit the 'mold' of what a woman is supposed to be.

Pointg5 12-20-2006 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu
I blew about 20 bucks this year up from the 12 I fed the mutuals last year .I dont pay to get in or pay for parking or programs or forms, live 5 mins from the track and I bring my own "liquid" beverage so my coke expendature is about another 30 bucks.
The bonus is I always have a good time...:)

Coke expenditure is only $30 a year in California?

No wonder a certain jockey has a problem...

kidding...

Honu 12-20-2006 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Honu,
Please sit down before you read this.
I haven't met a "fiscally restrained" woman like you.
Actually, I never dreamed I'd ever come across one.
And being as you love horses, work hard, and don't part with the hard earned bucks.... (DTers ...cover your ears cause it's between her and me)...

Will you marry me?

ps...I'll cover your expendatures.


Thats just about the funniest thing Ive read in a long time and Im highly flattered by your offer .

Downthestretch55 12-20-2006 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu
Thats just about the funniest thing Ive read in a long time and Im highly flattered by your offer .

Honu,
I'm not trying to be funny.
Seriously, if you decide to take your tack out of Cali and come to NY, I'd love to meet up with you at Toga.
I really haven't come across a lady like you. (though I've been through a few).
Let's just start out as "friends" and go from there.

Cajungator26 12-20-2006 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Honu,
I'm not trying to be funny.
Seriously, if you decide to take your tack out of Cali and come to NY, I'd love to meet up with you at Toga.
I really haven't come across a lady like you. (though I've been through a few).
Let's just start out as "friends" and go from there.

Better save up that cash flow to buy her a nice horse! LMAO

Honu 12-20-2006 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Honu,
I'm not trying to be funny.
Seriously, if you decide to take your tack out of Cali and come to NY, I'd love to meet up with you at Toga.
I really haven't come across a lady like you. (though I've been through a few).
Let's just start out as "friends" and go from there.

Ok Ill let you buy me a coke sometime ;)

Honu 12-20-2006 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Better save up that cash flow to buy her a nice horse! LMAO

If I owned a horse it better have a sponser :D

Downthestretch55 12-20-2006 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Better save up that cash flow to buy her a nice horse! LMAO

Cajun,
I have some nice ones. Shot o' Bourbon and Darlin' by Day are beauties.
They'll be ready this spring. Both 2yo's.
I just registered the colt and the new filly with the Jockey Club. The names haven't been approved yet, so I'll have to wait to let you know what they'll be called. Mera wanted me to name the weanling filly "Vodka Shot"...it was the 3rd choice. First choice for the filly was Ciel Bonne and for the colt, Daring Day.
I'm not kidding. Stay tuned, and don't laugh too much. These are nice ones.

Danzig 12-20-2006 03:45 PM

maybe you can go with whiskey chaser for a name...

Byebyemermaid 12-20-2006 04:50 PM

If i would have bet Mountaineer only for the whole year i would've shown a profit.But since it took me about 6 months to decide to do that i with heavy heart have to confess i'm below the Mendoza line.

skippy3481 12-20-2006 04:58 PM

I'm down on horses as well, last i checked it was somewhere in the 350-400 range which all in all, for a year of fun, is so well worth it.

GPK 12-20-2006 07:31 PM

Down on the year...not sure how much. But on a more positive note, I practiced an infinite amount more patience this year at the windows than ever before. So all in all, I am pleased with the year I had. Just trying to continue the learning process.

Gander 12-20-2006 07:34 PM

Kev- You lost enough that last weekend of Saratoga to feed a 3rd world country. Dont think I have forgotten about you throwing chairs and slamming your fist at that simulcast place! Not to mention asking me for a quarter so you could buy a piece of cardboard pizza.

For a second there I swore we were twins separated at birth :p

GPK 12-20-2006 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Kev- You lost enough that last weekend of Saratoga to feed a 3rd world country. Dont think I have forgotten about you throwing chairs and slamming your fist at that simulcast place! Not to mention asking me for a quarter so you could buy a piece of cardboard pizza.

For a second there I swore we were twins separated at birth :p


it was my cell phone...not a chair:o

SentToStud 12-20-2006 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by T3B
Down on the year...not sure how much. But on a more positive note, I practiced an infinite amount more patience this year at the windows than ever before. So all in all, I am pleased with the year I had. Just trying to continue the learning process.

K,
If you like Redd Foxx, you owe it to yourself to find and listen to a CD by a guy named Rudy Ray Moore. Your life will never be the same.

GPK 12-20-2006 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
K,
If you like Redd Foxx, you owe it to yourself to find and listen to a CD by a guy named Rudy Ray Moore. Your life will never be the same.


Good stuff B?? LOve me some Sanford and Son....the theme is my ringtone on my cell phone:D

SentToStud 12-20-2006 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by T3B
Good stuff B?? LOve me some Sanford and Son....the theme is my ringtone on my cell phone:D

it's great stuff. He's a cross between Richard Pryor and Biggie Smalls. 70's stuff. The Godfather of Rap. Find a CD with the track "ABCs" on it. Or, if you can download it, it's certainly worth a dollar. Money back guarantee.

GPK 12-20-2006 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
it's great stuff. He's a cross between Richard Pryor and Biggie Smalls. 70's stuff. The Godfather of Rap. Find a CD with the track "ABCs" on it. Or, if you can download it, it's certainly worth a dollar. Money back guarantee.


Thanks....will give it a lookin....

bellsbendboy 12-20-2006 07:50 PM

Absolutely thrilled with the naysayers showing up. The same thing happened last year, on the Delmar forum and a couple of the computer people validated my earnings claims. So I started posting there. After posting about a $2000 hit in January 2006 on an $18 bet, then a $10,000 hit in early February on a $32 ticket they now tolerate me.

My home forum is Nola, but I post anywhere.

In no particular order:

Philcski: I hope my last PM was clear.

Hooves: I buy the form in bulk, I use colored pens extensively, marking what is germane to that race such as; par times, internal fractions, turf rails and trainer intent. Collective races and understanding the condition book are strengths.

Point: I do not know what a signature is.

Spider: Thanks for the thread

Scuds: I expect to have the FG pick 4 friday and will post it on this forum. Indeed the year is not over yet.

Rupert: A normal week would be a $24 pick four bet on the best midwest track running on Sunday. I do play when I can get the DRF well ahead of time on Thurs or Friday, again in the midwest. I did play Delmar this past August, but will not again. Keeneland was very good to me this meet. I posted one horse per day 16 days, so $32 for the meet. I hit three winners (with six seconds) and the winners added up to $82, a salty but meaningless ROI indeed.

Apologies to someone about Robbie Albarado. I was live at Louisiana Downs to three horses in the pick 4. And Robbie wiped out two of them, one was 30-1 and I would probably have taken down the pool (some 30,000) had he won. Robbie got seven days, but they paid 3 of 4 and I got almost $400 for each of the three tix. Good cappin. BBB

smartyalex 12-20-2006 08:26 PM

L-O-S-E-R........thanks to ;) my "Polytrack friend"!!!!

Rileyoriley 12-20-2006 09:40 PM

I never bet more than I can afford to lose so I limit myself to $20. Fun if I win. Can still pay the bills if I lose. I lost my $20 on the Derby. I came home with $52 from Saratoga on Travers Day and I won $76 on the B.C.. Minus racing forms, snacks, gas, etc., I probably broke even but more importantly I had fun! Deb

DerbyCat 12-20-2006 09:50 PM

This thread made me do a little research which was actually very helpful for me... I used Pinnacle for most of the year and closed out that account by taking out about a $75 profit (without the rebates probably would have been down a couple hundred for the year). I opened a Bris account in October and LOVE the account history feature. I started digging through it and came up with the following stats/results:

In almost 2 months I have wagered a little over $1,700 and have a profit/loss of +$32 - that's pretty darn close to breaking even... not bad. I bet primarily on Bay Meadows and Mountaineer but had a few bets on almost every other track.

The stats I thought were interesting were the following:

At Bay Meadows, I had a win % of 29.95% with a $1 R.O.I. of $1.17 - obviously my best track (the thing that really jacked up my % was when Baze was going for the record - for the week before, his horses were going off at insanely low odds so the winning horses were having great payoffs).

My best stats overall are a win % of 33% for W/P bets and a $1 R.O.I. of $1.06 for Pick 3 bets... I was really weak with pick 4's and trifectas and I know that's because I just don't go deep enough... also, I really sucked at Aquaduct this year - I won ONE bet out of 50, but that cause I did too many p3/p4 without going deep enough.

The great thing about this is it's made me realize what my betting strengths and weaknesses are - I do pretty good picking a winner, and do ok picking three in a row, but other exotics are not good for me - I'm just too cheap to go deep enough to make it worth while.

westcoastinvader 12-20-2006 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Well maybe the poster meant that they $1800 was his own money. Maybe the rest of the wagers came from winnings from that initial $1800 investment. Does that make sense?



I'm not sure, but my innate BS detector is reading there is validity in BellsBendBoy's claims......

And for myself, I remember the days of the ESPN board where people would joke about the foolishness of someone playing "*ALL" somewhere on their Tri or Super bets.

I never admitted it then, but now I will.....I'm a big player of two horses with the "a bunch" in super and tri plays.

I only bet at the OTB about 30 times a year. Probably about half those times I see a race I really like from my casual following of the west coast tracks, and I go in with one fixed bet in mind. Usually a heavy win, with some back up Exactas. About 10 times I'll go in with a "lose" budget of $200 to $500 and play "picked on the spot" WIN and PLACE, and if I get a little of the track's money loosen up (with the help of some Bud Light) and buy some "lotto type" tri's and supers.

It's a rare year that I do not have signers.

On a good day I'll win $300 to $500, and on a great day I'll win $900 to $3000. Probaby 1/3 of the time I end up between -$200 and +$200.

I NEVER lose more than $300 to $500 on my bad days, so my losses are controlled.

It works for me, and I have a helluva good time. And when I get the nice win, I always celebrate and do something concrete with the $$ besides putting it back in the track. Nice dinner for the wife, or a good bottle of wine. Or some nice electronics or something.

That said, I've been in less lettuce before in my life, and had an equally heckuva good time playing 9 races of $5 win/place bets. I just love horse racing.

DerbyCat 12-20-2006 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by westcoastinvader
That said, I've been in less lettuce before in my life, and had an equally heckuva good time playing 9 races of $5 win/place bets. I just love horse racing.

I've got to agree with you there... I got into this two years ago and I truly love it! I love to watch the horses run, I love the analytical side of the DRF and trying to determine a winner, I love the banter that happens at the track and on this site... this is good fun and I view my betting as a personal challenge of my abilities to "figure it out"... the $$$ is a bonus - "winning" is what makes it worth while.

I bet on horse races for the same reason Steve Fossett flies balloons around the world - I want to conquer something... I like to compete and win but I'm getting too old to play sports anymore and I've found that people don't like to play games with me because I'm an obnoxious winner and a piss-poor loser - bad combination for social events :o So, instead, I go to a track, or stay at home, and watch the horses run, and yell at them and pound my fist - and if I win - great... and if I lose - well, g*d-d*amn it! It just feels good to compete.


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