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moses 03-31-2021 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1150910)
Anyone know who he is?

His half-brother won a very famous duel.

knickslions2 03-31-2021 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1150910)
Anyone know who he is?

Another slow horse that will be back of the pack at finish line

Alabama Stakes 04-03-2021 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1150818)
Dream Shake ran a big race in his maiden breaker, respectable 2-turn debut in the San Felipe, and has solid pedigree. The race doesn’t look great on paper with most of the top CA horses either off the trail or shipped out but maybe it won’t be so bad.

Also Dream Shake, named for the Hakeem “The Dream” Olajuwon move called the Dream Shake coincides with Houston Cougars playing in the final 4 tonight. I think you’re supposed to bet both. ( especially since if Baylor wins, I win my local bracket pool without even sweating the final)

RolloTomasi 04-04-2021 09:50 AM

Unless the numbers are wrong Midnight Bourbon should be ahead of Greatest Honour

Kasept 04-05-2021 03:02 PM

AR DERBY

Caddo River
Concert Tour
Get Her Number
Hozier
Super Stock
Roman Centurian
Last Samurai

cakes44 04-07-2021 02:11 PM

Man, there is going to be some real dandies that get into this field.

moses 04-10-2021 08:31 PM

After the race, Brad Cox mentioned potentially going to the Preakness with Caddo River.

RolloTomasi 04-10-2021 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1151442)
After the race, Brad Cox mentioned potentially going to the Preakness with Caddo River.

Doesn't he want something to force the pace and/or run interference for his Godolphin horse?

Makes more sense to wait for the Preakness with the Juddmonte horse coming off a bad race against an uninspiring group of 3yos at Fair Grounds this year.

moses 04-10-2021 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 1151443)
Doesn't he want something to force the pace and/or run interference for his Godolphin horse?

Makes more sense to wait for the Preakness with the Juddmonte horse coming off a bad race against an uninspiring group of 3yos at Fair Grounds this year.

I’m not sure he’ll need Caddo River in for a strong pace.

Kasept 04-13-2021 06:23 AM

1. Essential Quality (TAPIT) Pulpit ~ Home Bred
2. Hot Rod Charlie (OXBOW) Awesome Again ~ $110,000 FT OCT19
3. Super Stock (DIALED IN) Mineshaft ~ $70,000 KEE SEP19
4. Like the King (PALACE MALICE) Curlin ~ $170,000 OBS OCT19
5. Known Agenda (CURLIN) Smart Strike ~ Home Bred
6. Rock Your World (CANDY RIDE) Ride the Rails ~ $650,000 KEE SEP19
7. Bourbonic (BERNARDINI) A.P. Indy ~ Home Bred
8. Medina Spirit (PROTONICO) Giant's Causeway ~ $35,000 OBS OPN20
9. Midnight Bourbon (TIZNOW) Cee's Tizzy ~ $525,000 KEE SEP19
10. Mandaloun (INTO MISCHIEF) Harlan's Holiday ~ Home Bred
11. Highly Motivated (INTO MISCHIEF) Harlan's Holiday ~ Home Bred
12. Helium (IRONICUS) Distorted Humor ~ $55,000 FT OCT19
13. Soup and Sandwich (INTO MISCHIEF) Harlan's Holiday ~ Home Bred
14. Dynamic One (UNION RAGS) Dixie Union ~ $725,000 KEE SEP19
15. Sainthood (MSHAWISH) Medaglia d'Oro ~ $62,000 OBS OCT19
16. Hidden Stash (CONSTITUTION) Tapit ~ $50,000 KEE SEP19
17. O Besos (ORB) Malibu Moon ~ Home Bred
18. Get Her Number (DIALED IN) Mineshaft ~ $45,000 OBS APR20
19. King Fury (CURLIN) Smart Strike ~ $950,000 FT SAR19
20. Keepmeinmind (LAOBAN) Uncle Mo ~ P/S

Kitan 04-13-2021 08:12 AM

Are there any early PPs anywhere? Usually there are PPs for the Top 20 or so on the list, but can't seem to find them this year.

moses 04-13-2021 08:20 AM

Into Mischief finally broke through last year with Authentic. Some other top sires have a shot this year to do the same, Tapit with the likely favorite and Curlin with the likely 2nd or 3rd choice (as well as a possible trendy pick in King Fury if he’s able to draw in).

Speaking of progeny, my wife is due to have our third daughter on April 28th. She’s gone early with the other two so I’m not too worried about the baby coming on Derby day but I checked and the hospital will have NBC available. :tro:

Also, as a sidenote: I tried but my wife rejected Rachel Alexandra as a name.

moses 04-13-2021 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Kitan (Post 1151496)
Are there any early PPs anywhere? Usually there are PPs for the Top 20 or so on the list, but can't seem to find them this year.

This is the closest I’ve found. It’s from Brisnet.

http://www.brisnet.com/wp-content/up...oints-0412.pdf

Kasept 04-13-2021 09:14 AM

CADDO RIVER a go for Derby..

Kasept 04-13-2021 10:01 AM

Mike Smith gets Midnight Bourbon call..

Mandaloun now open..

moses 04-13-2021 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1151499)
CADDO RIVER a go for Derby..

The pace gets a little more interesting. Concert Tour may just not be good enough but I wonder if Baffert will take the blinkers off. He was supposedly considering doing it after the San Vicente.

ninetoone 04-13-2021 12:37 PM

Known Agenda and Irad/Pletcher are going to be a popular choice at the windows. Same with Rock Your World. Could mean some great value outside of them & EQ...

Kitan 04-13-2021 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1151498)
This is the closest I’ve found. It’s from Brisnet.

http://www.brisnet.com/wp-content/up...oints-0412.pdf

Exactly what I was looking for, thanks!

Kasept 04-13-2021 05:41 PM

Barring defections from top contenders, ROMBAUER targeting Preakness/Belmont..

moses 04-13-2021 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitan (Post 1151505)
Exactly what I was looking for, thanks!

No problem. I saw it on Twitter before you asked so I knew it was out there.

Dunbar 04-14-2021 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1151497)
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Speaking of progeny, my wife is due to have our third daughter on April 28th. She’s gone early with the other two so I’m not too worried about the baby coming on Derby day but I checked and the hospital will have NBC available. :tro:

Also, as a sidenote: I tried but my wife rejected Rachel Alexandra as a name.

You should have first pretended to want to name her "Bayakoa" or "Zenyatta". After those, Rachel Alexandra would have sounded like a great name!

(Congrats, btw!)

cal828 04-14-2021 09:29 AM

Three daughters and a wife. You deserve a Congressional Medal of Honor or at least a Purple Heart.:tro::wf:D

moses 04-14-2021 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunbar (Post 1151521)
You should have first pretended to want to name her "Bayakoa" or "Zenyatta". After those, Rachel Alexandra would have sounded like a great name!

(Congrats, btw!)

Thanks. I jokingly suggested Zenyatta as a middle name for one of our other daughters. All I got was a dirty look and she started ignoring my name suggestions. :D

moses 04-14-2021 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cal828 (Post 1151525)
Three daughters and a wife. You deserve a Congressional Medal of Honor or at least a Purple Heart.:tro::wf:D

Haha, thanks. My daughters are only 5 and 3 right now and still like me...but let me get back to you in 10-15 years and see where things stand. Although, my 5 year old recently told me that "horse racing is boring." It'll be nice when I'm able to get them back to the track so they can see the horses close up. I think her tune will change.

cal828 04-14-2021 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1151530)
Haha, thanks. My daughters are only 5 and 3 right now and still like me...but let me get back to you in 10-15 years and see where things stand. Although, my 5 year old recently told me that "horse racing is boring." It'll be nice when I'm able to get them back to the track so they can see the horses close up. I think her tune will change.

I hope you have success in getting them to like the sport. Neither of my grown kids share my enthusiasm for it. My son will go with me, if I ask him, but he has no real interest in the intellectual challenge of it and the same can be said for my daughter. She will go with her girlfriends or whichever guy she's dating, but it's more of a social thing for her. She even likes to go to Vegas, but
mostly for the shopping and the spa and the food and drink. She hardly gambles at all, if any.

Kasept 04-15-2021 09:06 AM

PANADOL will NOT travel to Derby..

Kasept 04-15-2021 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1151499)
CADDO RIVER a go for Derby..

Oy vey. Now John Ed Anthony leaning against running Caddo River. Looks like Preakness.

moses 04-15-2021 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1151573)
Oy vey. Now John Ed Anthony leaning against running Caddo River. Looks like Preakness.

At this rate, Sittin On Go might have a shot to make the starting gate based on that Iroquois win.

Kasept 04-17-2021 09:57 AM

Concert Tour bypassing Derby
 
Preakness.

blackthroatedwind 04-17-2021 10:05 AM

The cat's on the roof

Kasept 04-17-2021 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1151661)
The cat's on the roof

iOOOOOOOO!

Kasept 04-17-2021 07:43 PM

ROSARIO gets mount on ROCK YOUR WORLD supplanting RISPOLI (who could yet land GET HER NUMBER or DREAM SHAKE)..

moses 04-17-2021 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1151738)
ROSARIO gets mount on ROCK YOUR WORLD supplanting RISPOLI (who could yet land GET HER NUMBER or DREAM SHAKE)..

Wow.

Dahoss 04-17-2021 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1151738)
ROSARIO gets mount on ROCK YOUR WORLD supplanting RISPOLI (who could yet land GET HER NUMBER or DREAM SHAKE)..

Grimy

Kasept 04-19-2021 04:58 PM

4/30 (CD): Kentucky Oaks

1. Search Results (Irad Ortiz/Chad Brown)
2. Travel Column (Florent Geroux/Brad Cox)
3. Crazy Beautiful (Jose Ortiz/Kenny McPeek)
4. Pauline’s Pearl (Ricardo Santana/Steve Asmussen)
5. Malathaat (John Velazquez/Todd Pletcher)
6. Clairiere (Tyler Gaffalione/Steve Asmussen)
7. Will’s Secret (Jon Court, Dallas Stewart)
8. Millefeuille (Joel Rosario/Bill Mott)
9. Moraz (Umberto Rispoli/Michael McCarthy)
10. Ava’s Grace (David Cohen/Robertino Diodoro)
11. Pass the Champagne (Javier Castellano/George Weaver)
12. Maracuja (Kendrick Carmouche, Rob Atras)
13. Competitive Speed (Chris Landeros/Javier Gonzalez)
14. Coach (Luis Saez/Brad Cox)

Kasept 04-19-2021 05:10 PM

The 6th running of the $125,000 William Walker (Listed), run on Saturday, April 24 at 5 ½ furlongs on turf:

Bodenheimer (trainer Valorie Lund)
Cees Get Degrees (Michelle Lovell)
Charles Chrome (Reeve McGaughey)
Field Day (Brad Cox); Gagetown (Brad Cox)
The Wolfman (Phil Schoenthal)

Possible: Unitedandresolute (Tom Amoss)


The 3rd running of the $120,000 Isaac Murphy Marathon Overnight Stakes, run Tuesday, April 27 at 1 ½ miles:

Dack Janiel’s (Jack Sisterson)
Plus Que Parfait (Brendan Walsh)
Ry’s the Guy (Ian Wilkes)
Strong Tide (Mike Lauer)
You’re To Blame (Ron Moquett)


The 27th running of the $125,000 Kentucky Juvenile, run Wednesday, April 28 at five furlongs:

Bohemian Frost (John Ennis)
Saucy Lady T (James Chapman)
Shesgotattitude (Ennis)


The 16th running of the $120,000 Opening Verse Overnight Stakes, run Wednesday, April 28 at one mile on turf:

Captivating Moon (Chris Block)
Epic Dreamer (Mark Casse)
Sayyaaf (Mike Maker)
Set Piece (Brad Cox)
Spectacular Gem (Jimmy Baker)


The 11th running of the $150,000 Unbridled Sidney, run on Thursday, April 29 at 5 ½ furlongs on turf:

A Bit of Both (Mike Maker)
Ambassador Luna (James Gulick)
Change of Control (Michelle Lovell)
Foxxy Belle (Michael Ann Ewing)
Into Mystic (Brendan Walsh)
Lady Grace (Mark Casse)
She’sonthewarpath (Steve Margolis)
Wining Envelope (Chris Block)
Yes It’s Ginger (Greg Foley)


The 27th running of the $250,000 Twin Spires Turf Sprint (Grade II), run Friday, April 30 at 5 ½ furlongs on turf:

American Butterfly (D. Wayne Lukas)
Carotari (Brian Lynch)
Classy John (Dallas Stewart)
Diamond Oops (Patrick Biancone)
Firecrow (Ron Moquett)
Just Might (Michelle Lovell)
Sombeyay (Peter Miller)


The 37th Running of the $300,000 Edgewood (Grade II), run on Friday, April 30 at 1 1/16 miles on turf:

Aunt Pearl (IRE) (Brad Cox)
I Get It (Mark Casse);
Oliviaofthedesert (Kenny McPeek)
Postnup (Cherie DeVaux)
Queen of the Green (Jason Barkley)

Possible: Jouster (Todd Pletcher), Zaajel (Pletcher)


The 66th running of the $300,000 Eight Belles (Grade II), run on Friday April 30 at seven furlongs:

Abrogate (Steve Asmussen)
Dayoutoftheoffice (Tim Hamm)
Euphoric (Bernie Flint)
Slumber Party (Kelly Breen)
Sun Path (Brad Cox)
Windmill (Larry Jones)

Possible: Joyful Cadence (John Ortiz)


The 18th running of the $400,000 Alysheba (Grade II), run on Friday, April 30 at 1 1/16 miles:

Attachment Rate (Dale Romans)
Chess Chief (Dallas Stewart)
Maxfield (Brendan Walsh)
Roadster (Bob Baffert)
Sonneman (Steve Asmussen)
Visitant (Bill Morey)


The 36th running of the $500,000 La Troienne (Grade I), run on Friday, April 30 at 1 1/16 miles:

As Time Goes By (Bob Baffert)
Dunbar Road (Chad Brown)
Envoutante (Kenny McPeek)
Paris Lights (Bill Mott)
Sanenus (CHI) (Michael McCarthy)
Shedaresthedevil (Brad Cox)

Possible: Finite (Steve Asmussen)


The 30th running of the $500,000 American Turf (Grade II), run on Saturday, May 1 at 1 1/16 miles on turf:

Fire At Will (Mike Maker)
Holy Vow (John Ortiz)
Lucky Law (Patrick Biancone)
Palazzi (Mark Casse)
Winfromwithin (Todd Pletcher)


The 97th running of the $500,000 Pat Day Mile, (Grade II) run on Saturday, May 1 at one mile:

Excellent Timing (Chad Brown)
Gretzky the Great (Mark Casse)
Jackie’s Warrior (Steve Asmussen)
Prevalence (Brendan Walsh)
Whiskey Double (Steve Asmussen)

Possible: Dream Shake (Peter Eurton); Dreamer’s Disease (Robertino Diodoro)


The 36th running of the $500,000 Longines Distaff Turf Mile (Grade II), run on Saturday, May 1 at one mile on turf:

Abscond (Eddie Kenneally)
Blowout (Chad Brown)
Got Stormy (Mark Casse)
Princess Grace (Mike Stidham).


The 35th running of the $500,000 Derby City Distaff (Grade I), run on Saturday, May 1 at seven furlongs:

Bell’s the One (Neil Pessin)
Gamine (Bob Baffert)
Sconsin (Greg Foley)

Possible: Finite (Steve Asmussen); Hibiscus Punch (Justin Nixon); Unique Factor (Peter Miller)


The 86th running of the $500,000 Churchill Downs (Grade I), run on Saturday, May 1 at seven furlongs:

Charlatan (Bob Baffert)
Hog Creek Hustle (Vickie Foley)
Lexitonian (Jack Sisterson)
Tap It To Win (Mark Casse)

Possible: Bango (Greg Foley); Shashashakemeup (Peter Miller)


The 35th running of the $1 million Old Forester Bourbon Turf Classic (Grade I), run on Saturday, May 1 at 1 1/8 miles on turf:

Arklow (Brad Cox)
Colonel Liam (Todd Pletcher)
Digital Age (Chad Brown)
Ivar (BRZ) (Paolo Lobo)
Masteroffoxhounds (Richard Baltas)
Ride a Comet (Mark Casse)
Smooth Like Strait (Michael McCarthy)
Domestic Spending (Chad Brown)

Possible: Flavius (Chad Brown), Spooky Channel (Brian Lynch)

Kasept 04-20-2021 04:26 AM

FINAL 3/8THS TIMES






Dunbar 04-20-2021 05:55 AM

Thanks!

Kasept 04-20-2021 06:30 AM

CADDO RIVER is now a Derby GO..

moses 04-20-2021 07:28 AM

Kind of interesting that 4 of the top 6 times are from the Blue Grass.

On that same day, Malathaat finished the 8.5 furlong Ashland in 1:42.94. Her final 1/16th was roughly 6.05. If we estimate that she would have finished the next 1/16th in 6.55 seconds, her time for 9 furlongs would have been 1:49.49 and her final 3/8ths would be under 36.5 seconds. That would put her 4th on that list.

I'm a little skeptical of those final Blue Grass fractions and what they mean for Derby Day.


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