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Hickory Hill Hoff 08-08-2020 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1142027)
So is your Facebook page

I try my best! ;)

gamblin4ever 08-08-2020 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1142020)
Giacosa won for fun paying $5.90 and $3.10.

Meet totals
$136 wagered
$70.70 returned

Day 18 Travers Day
Best bet- Race 3- #1 Violent Point
Longshot- Race 8- #6 Pulsate

To all my fans, have a FANTASTIC Travers Day. I love you all.


If you don't mind me asking, but what is your reasoning for picking Violent Point as your best bet in race 3? The reason I'm asking is in The paddock you have Casse in your cold trainers post.

Dahoss 08-08-2020 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by gamblin4ever (Post 1142067)
If you don't mind me asking, but what is your reasoning for picking Violent Point as your best bet in race 3? The reason I'm asking is in The paddock you have Casse in your cold trainers post.

Was involved in a fast pace that collapsed two back and last time broke slowly, made a middle move and tired late. I think her form makes her look worse than she is, I like the rail draw because I think Junior can sit right behind the 11 and pounce and should be at least her ML if not higher. I think she’s the best betting opportunity on the card.

gamblin4ever 08-08-2020 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1142071)
Was involved in a fast pace that collapsed two back and last time broke slowly, made a middle move and tired late. I think her form makes her look worse than she is, I like the rail draw because I think Junior can sit right behind the 11 and pounce and should be at least her ML if not higher. I think she’s the best betting opportunity on the card.

Ok ty

Dahoss 08-09-2020 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1142020)
Giacosa won for fun paying $5.90 and $3.10.

Meet totals
$136 wagered
$70.70 returned

Day 18 Travers Day
Best bet- Race 3- #1 Violent Point
Longshot- Race 8- #6 Pulsate

To all my fans, have a FANTASTIC Travers Day. I love you all.

For the fans....

Meet totals
$144 wagered
$70.70 returned

Day 19
Best bet- Race 9 #3 Spinoff
Longshot- Race 8 #6 Forever Poe

Dahoss 08-09-2020 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1142380)
Your Trump comment was a wakeup. LOL

For the record I don’t think you put up fake bets. I was just trying to rile you up.

I apologize for getting all of this to this point. Was never my intention and I certainly don’t want to disrespect Steve’s site as I consider him a friend.

I’ll never see eye to eye with everyone on issues, but it doesn’t need to be like this.

jms62 08-09-2020 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1142358)
So he works for a company that had government contracts and called for the Seal Team to kill Obama and it was during working hours. Would reporting him be a threat or a public service? Again you posting like I am a raving manic threatening people left and right. Pleas post those angry screen shots from 28th and 29th cause you are presenting this like I am a raving manic posting 24/7.

And another thing about this human trash. He and the gang were eulogizing a PA member who had passed. The guy who passed was convicted 3 times of exposing himself to children and this Tom guy was saying he didn’t care he was nice to him. To them he was the most unlucky criminal in the world having been caught the only 3 times he did this and had straightened out. Like no chance he did things far worse. Only thing I regret is not meeting Tom face to face. Yeah thinking about it still gets me angry.

jms62 08-09-2020 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1142382)
For the record I don’t think you put up fake bets. I was just trying to rile you up.

I apologize for getting all of this to this point. Was never my intention and I certainly don’t want to disrespect Steve’s site as I consider him a friend.

I’ll never see eye to eye with everyone on issues, but it doesn’t need to be like this.

We are good. I’m nice to my friends but a major league ******* to my enemies snd the sad part is It motivates me.

Dahoss 08-09-2020 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1142383)
And another thing about this human trash. He and the gang were eulogizing a PA member who had passed. The guy who passed was convicted 3 times of exposing himself to children and this Tom guy was saying he didn’t care he was nice to him. To them he was the most unlucky criminal in the world having been caught the only 3 times he did this and had straightened out. Like no chance he did things far worse. Only thing I regret is not meeting Tom face to face. Yeah thinking about it still gets me angry.

I don’t disagree. I’ve been kicked off that board twice for my run ins with him. He’s a scumbag

Dahoss 08-12-2020 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1142312)
For the fans....

Meet totals
$144 wagered
$70.70 returned

Day 19
Best bet- Race 9 #3 Spinoff
Longshot- Race 8 #6 Forever Poe

Spinoff got back to his winning for paying $8.40 and $2.90. Forever Poe just finished...maybe

Meet totals
$152 wagered
$82 returned

Day 20
Best bet- Race 9- #6 Beautiful Farewell
Longshot- Race 6- #2 Saratoga Beauty

I thought Beautiful Farewell ran much better than it looks last time. Broke slow, rushed into contention, ran in spots, behind a wall into stretch, not the strongest ride. A few good fillies beat her that day and I love the confidence of running here.

Dahoss 08-12-2020 10:16 AM

Of course Beautiful Farewell scratched.

Substitute Race 3- #7 Money in the Bank

Dahoss 08-12-2020 12:59 PM

Dylan Davis keeps showing why he’s the 4th best rider in his family.

Dahoss 08-12-2020 01:33 PM

LOL like clockwork

hi_im_god 08-12-2020 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1142385)
I don’t disagree. I’ve been kicked off that board twice for my run ins with him. He’s a scumbag

I used to like you. But anyone who hasn't been kicked off PA at least 3x is no friend of mine.

Dahoss 08-12-2020 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 1142512)
I used to like you. But anyone who hasn't been kicked off PA at least 3x is no friend of mine.

:D

It’s probably 4 or 5 times now that I think about it.

Dahoss 08-13-2020 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1142493)
Spinoff got back to his winning for paying $8.40 and $2.90. Forever Poe just finished...maybe

Meet totals
$152 wagered
$82 returned

Day 20
Best bet- Race 9- #6 Beautiful Farewell
Longshot- Race 6- #2 Saratoga Beauty

I thought Beautiful Farewell ran much better than it looks last time. Broke slow, rushed into contention, ran in spots, behind a wall into stretch, not the strongest ride. A few good fillies beat her that day and I love the confidence of running here.

Feel like Money in the Bank wins with a better rider. Saratoga Beauty was awful.

Meet totals
$160 wagered
$82 returned

Best bet- The Dancer has a daughter who dances on a pole.
Longshot- The Dancer could beat me head to head

Best bet- Race 8- #5 Battalion
Longshot- Race 5- #11 Bonus Baby

Dahoss 08-13-2020 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1142566)
Feel like Money in the Bank wins with a better rider. Saratoga Beauty was awful.

Meet totals
$160 wagered
$82 returned

Best bet- The Dancer has a daughter who dances on a pole.
Longshot- The Dancer could beat me head to head

Best bet- Race 8- #5 Battalion
Longshot- Race 5- #11 Bonus Baby

Battalion a late scratch. Let’s substitute Two Cent Twootsie in the last

Dahoss 08-13-2020 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1142566)
Feel like Money in the Bank wins with a better rider. Saratoga Beauty was awful.

Meet totals
$160 wagered
$82 returned

Best bet- The Dancer has a daughter who dances on a pole.
Longshot- The Dancer could beat me head to head

Best bet- Race 8- #5 Battalion
Longshot- Race 5- #11 Bonus Baby

Battalion a late scratch, substituted horse ran like Dancer picked it. Bonus Baby ran into an absolute buzzsaw but got up for 2nd at
12-1 paying $11.80 to place.

Further recap and picks for tomorrow in the am.

Dahoss 08-14-2020 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1142566)
Feel like Money in the Bank wins with a better rider. Saratoga Beauty was awful.

Meet totals
$160 wagered
$82 returned

Best bet- The Dancer has a daughter who dances on a pole.
Longshot- The Dancer could beat me head to head

Best bet- Race 8- #5 Battalion
Longshot- Race 5- #11 Bonus Baby

Meet totals
$168 wagered
$93.80 returned

Day 22
Best bet-Race 2-#4 Brass Ring
Longshot- Race 5- #1 Officer Country

jms62 08-14-2020 12:46 PM

Gross Beat on Brass Ring..:mad:

Dahoss 08-15-2020 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1142687)
Gross Beat on Brass Ring..:mad:

The one with Argonne later was even worse. Long meet. :zz:

Dahoss 08-15-2020 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1142682)
Meet totals
$168 wagered
$93.80 returned

Day 22
Best bet-Race 2-#4 Brass Ring
Longshot- Race 5- #1 Officer Country

Nada on both

Meet totals
$176 wagered
$93.80 returned

Day 23
Best bet- Race 8- #4 Domestic Spending- I think today is his coming out party. As good as Decorated Invader is, I think the added distance helps my pick more and is set up for a big effort
Longshot- Race 11- #3 Brickyard- not the best of rides last time, would’ve been right there with clean trio and has some upside unlike a lot of these

goodcopy 08-15-2020 10:50 AM

Toga early-p-5
 
Bet type: Pick 5
Bet Amount $0.50
Bet Total: $405.00
Selection(s)
L1=248
L2=569
L3=345
L4=235678
L5=2371011
:$::$::zz::tro::

Dancer 08-15-2020 04:18 PM

Now There !!!
 
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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1142733)
Nada on both

Meet totals
$176 wagered
$93.80 returned

Day 23
Best bet- Race 8- #4 Domestic Spending- I think today is his coming out party. As good as Decorated Invader is, I think the added distance helps my pick more and is set up for a big effort
Longshot- Race 11- #3 Brickyard- not the best of rides last time, would’ve been right there with clean trio and has some upside unlike a lot of these

Great Call ... beautiful analysis ... congrats !!!

Dahoss 08-16-2020 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1142733)
Nada on both

Meet totals
$176 wagered
$93.80 returned

Day 23
Best bet- Race 8- #4 Domestic Spending- I think today is his coming out party. As good as Decorated Invader is, I think the added distance helps my pick more and is set up for a big effort
Longshot- Race 11- #3 Brickyard- not the best of rides last time, would’ve been right there with clean trio and has some upside unlike a lot of these

Domestic Spending got it done, paying $16.40 and $5.70. Brickyard moved too soon into a race that collapsed but at the end of the day it wouldn’t have mattered.

Meet totals
$184 bet
$115.90

Day 24 Don’t like today’s card at all and will be treading lightly, but...
Best bet- Race 10- #4 Red Zinger- the move from Contessa to Englehart alone has to be worth many lengths and this one had some ability at some point. Should sit a good trip in the second flight
Longshot- Race 9- #5 Key Biscayne- the Mott Euro is the wildcard, so maybe she’s really good, but of the horses coming out of the Lake Placid, Key Biscayne is the one I want. She was wide while the others all saved ground and was making up some ground late. She’s going to be in the 15-1 range, and I’d love to see Manny get aggressive because she had some tactical speed earlier in her career.

moses 08-16-2020 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1142805)
Domestic Spending got it done, paying $16.40 and $5.70. Brickyard moved too soon into a race that collapsed but at the end of the day it wouldn’t have mattered.

Meet totals
$184 bet
$115.90

Day 24 Don’t like today’s card at all and will be treading lightly, but...
Best bet- Race 10- #4 Red Zinger- the move from Contessa to Englehart alone has to be worth many lengths and this one had some ability at some point. Should sit a good trip in the second flight
Longshot- Race 9- #5 Key Biscayne- the Mott Euro is the wildcard, so maybe she’s really good, but of the horses coming out of the Lake Placid, Key Biscayne is the one I want. She was wide while the others all saved ground and was making up some ground late. She’s going to be in the 15-1 range, and I’d love to see Manny get aggressive because she had some tactical speed earlier in her career.

Nice call on Domestic Spending and at a very nice price for a Chad Brown turf horse.

Dahoss 08-16-2020 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1142806)
Nice call on Domestic Spending and at a very nice price for a Chad Brown turf horse.

Thanks man. Always nice when your opinion on a horse is proven correct, especially after so many tough meets.

Dahoss 08-19-2020 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1142805)
Domestic Spending got it done, paying $16.40 and $5.70. Brickyard moved too soon into a race that collapsed but at the end of the day it wouldn’t have mattered.

Meet totals
$184 bet
$115.90

Day 24 Don’t like today’s card at all and will be treading lightly, but...
Best bet- Race 10- #4 Red Zinger- the move from Contessa to Englehart alone has to be worth many lengths and this one had some ability at some point. Should sit a good trip in the second flight
Longshot- Race 9- #5 Key Biscayne- the Mott Euro is the wildcard, so maybe she’s really good, but of the horses coming out of the Lake Placid, Key Biscayne is the one I want. She was wide while the others all saved ground and was making up some ground late. She’s going to be in the 15-1 range, and I’d love to see Manny get aggressive because she had some tactical speed earlier in her career.

Key Biscayne an okay 3rd at a big price. Red Zinger was awful

Meet totals
$192 bet
$115.90 returned

Day 25
Best bet- Race 6- #1 Rivendell- was very good breaking maiden in debut and finds a field where it is hard to have much confidence in anyone else. Might be pretty good.
Longshot- Race 9- #10 Little Red Button- another impossible field but at least this one has moved forward in each grass start. First time going two turns and post no bargain but hopefully Cancel can save ground

moses 08-19-2020 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1142890)
Key Biscayne an okay 3rd at a big price. Red Zinger was awful

Meet totals
$192 bet
$115.90 returned

Day 25
Best bet- Race 6- #1 Rivendell- was very good breaking maiden in debut and finds a field where it is hard to have much confidence in anyone else. Might be pretty good.
Longshot- Race 9- #10 Little Red Button- another impossible field but at least this one has moved forward in each grass start. First time going two turns and post no bargain but hopefully Cancel can save ground

I was thinking about picking Rivendell as my best bet but also like Bareeqa there and couldn't decide between the two. The way my picks have been going lately, me not picking Rivendell probably just put her in the winners circle for you.

Dahoss 08-20-2020 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1142890)
Key Biscayne an okay 3rd at a big price. Red Zinger was awful

Meet totals
$192 bet
$115.90 returned

Day 25
Best bet- Race 6- #1 Rivendell- was very good breaking maiden in debut and finds a field where it is hard to have much confidence in anyone else. Might be pretty good.
Longshot- Race 9- #10 Little Red Button- another impossible field but at least this one has moved forward in each grass start. First time going two turns and post no bargain but hopefully Cancel can save ground

Rivendell seemed to struggle with the going and Little Red Button a good 3rd but weakened late.

Meet totals
$200 wagered
$115.90 returned

Day 26- treading very lightly today. Not thrilled with the card, seems chalky.
Best bet- Race 6- #4 Wild William- Maybe Aragona is right with the ML, but I don’t understand liking or betting Big Wonder at 8/5. Wild William has faced much better recently, had some trouble last time and trainer is having a good meet. I think he figures to sit a good trip and should be a fair price.
Longshot- Race 9- #6 Foolish Ghost- the speed of the speed, drawn well outside other potential speed horses, hoping he can get brave

moses 08-20-2020 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1142977)
Rivendell seemed to struggle with the going and Little Red Button a good 3rd but weakened late.

Meet totals
$200 wagered
$115.90 returned

Day 26- treading very lightly today. Not thrilled with the card, seems chalky.
Best bet- Race 6- #4 Wild William- Maybe Aragona is right with the ML, but I don’t understand liking or betting Big Wonder at 8/5. Wild William has faced much better recently, had some trouble last time and trainer is having a good meet. I think he figures to sit a good trip and should be a fair price.
Longshot- Race 9- #6 Foolish Ghost- the speed of the speed, drawn well outside other potential speed horses, hoping he can get brave

Great calls today. I’ve got to regroup. I think I’ve been focusing too much on trying to pick longshots.

Dahoss 08-20-2020 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1143038)
Great calls today. I’ve got to regroup. I think I’ve been focusing too much on trying to pick longshots.

Thanks buddy. I was due. Not sure if it’s a good thing or a bad thing that I hated the card and had my best day all meet. :zz:

gamblin4ever 08-20-2020 06:57 PM

Good calls today

Kasept 08-20-2020 07:14 PM

Nice work Hossy! :$::$:

Dahoss 08-20-2020 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gamblin4ever (Post 1143049)
Good calls today

Thanks

Dahoss 08-20-2020 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1143050)
Nice work Hossy! :$::$:

Thanks Steve.

Dahoss 08-21-2020 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1142977)
Rivendell seemed to struggle with the going and Little Red Button a good 3rd but weakened late.

Meet totals
$200 wagered
$115.90 returned

Day 26- treading very lightly today. Not thrilled with the card, seems chalky.
Best bet- Race 6- #4 Wild William- Maybe Aragona is right with the ML, but I don’t understand liking or betting Big Wonder at 8/5. Wild William has faced much better recently, had some trouble last time and trainer is having a good meet. I think he figures to sit a good trip and should be a fair price.
Longshot- Race 9- #6 Foolish Ghost- the speed of the speed, drawn well outside other potential speed horses, hoping he can get brave

Wild William got a brilliant ride by Luis Saez, sending hard and took them wire to wire paying $11.40 and $4.50. Foolish Ghost broke running, was headed late and came back at wire for Saez’s 5th on the day paying $13.60 and $7.20.

Meet totals
$208 wagered
$152.60

Day 27
Best bet- Race 6- #4 Duopoly- was well bet in debut and didn’t fire. Showed in her 2nd start why she took all that money as she absolutely romped. Has to contend with her stablemate here but I think she’s very good and we will be seeing her in Stakes next.

Longshot- race 1- #3 Our Destiny- chased a repeat winner last time in open company at Monmouth. Adds blinkers, in with state breds and with an aggressive ride can take these all the way

moses 08-21-2020 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1143054)
Wild William got a brilliant ride by Luis Saez, sending hard and took them wire to wire paying $11.40 and $4.50. Foolish Ghost broke running, was headed late and came back at wire for Saez’s 5th on the day paying $13.60 and $7.20.

Meet totals
$208 wagered
$152.60

Day 27
Best bet- Race 6- #4 Duopoly- was well bet in debut and didn’t fire. Showed in her 2nd start why she took all that money as she absolutely romped. Has to contend with her stablemate here but I think she’s very good and we will be seeing her in Stakes next.

Longshot- race 1- #3 Our Destiny- chased a repeat winner last time in open company at Monmouth. Adds blinkers, in with state breds and with an aggressive ride can take these all the way

You can't lose right now. Another good call.

Dahoss 08-21-2020 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1143054)
Wild William got a brilliant ride by Luis Saez, sending hard and took them wire to wire paying $11.40 and $4.50. Foolish Ghost broke running, was headed late and came back at wire for Saez’s 5th on the day paying $13.60 and $7.20.

Meet totals
$208 wagered
$152.60

Day 27
Best bet- Race 6- #4 Duopoly- was well bet in debut and didn’t fire. Showed in her 2nd start why she took all that money as she absolutely romped. Has to contend with her stablemate here but I think she’s very good and we will be seeing her in Stakes next.

Longshot- race 1- #3 Our Destiny- chased a repeat winner last time in open company at Monmouth. Adds blinkers, in with state breds and with an aggressive ride can take these all the way

Our Destiny got the aggressive ride I hoped for, wiring the first paying $21 and $8.40. Duopoly won impressively again, taking it to them early and late, paying $7.70 and $4.10

Meet totals
$216 wagered
$193.80 returned

Day 28
Best bet- Race 8- #2 Growth Engine- ran well here last summer. Won his prep in fine fashion in Jersey last time and should get plenty of pace to run at.

Longshot- Race 9- #7 Valid Point- it’s worth watching a replay of his last, if for no other reason, watching him have nowhere to go for nearly 3/4’s of the race is really something. I think the fact he shows up here is a very good sign. It’s not like Chad Brown didn’t already hold a strong hand and there were much easier spots he could’ve picked. I won’t pretend to think I can judge workouts, but I watched his workouts since getting to Saratoga and while he is a turf horse, outworked Peter Pan winner Country Grammar on dirt and looks like the rider is having a hard time holding him because he is so full of run. Has more speed than his stablemates early so should get first run and figures to be at least 10-1. Good enough for me.

gamblin4ever 08-22-2020 02:09 PM

I hope you're right on your picks today as I've got them both in my p4. :)


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