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Kasept 06-06-2020 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1138986)
It’s weird, I haven’t missed a race because I have RTN and am able to watch whatever I want right on my TV.

It’s just as easy as putting on TVG, but then what would fake bettor Dan whine about then? He needs to whine to the person that told him a guy that resembles a gargoyle would look good with braids in his hair.

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Alabama Stakes 06-06-2020 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1138992)
There are so many ways to watch a race now. Gargoyle just needs to whine about NYRA because Andy couldn’t get him concert tickets years ago.

It would be nice to see u give an unbiased opinion on something. Nyrabets being down has nothing to do with Andy. No Belmont on tvg for everyone, Not just me. Do you really think I’m the only one unhappy about no TVG? Wise up , you’re all wet. It hasn’t affected you because you don’t bet through NYRA bets, I wonder why.

Dahoss 06-06-2020 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1139000)
It would be nice to see u give an unbiased opinion on something.

The fact you typed this is hilarious.

Look, I’m sorry NYRA isn’t on TVG. You’ve been shown many times you can very easily watch their races and m not sure if you’re just dumb or obtuse but you can VERY easily solve your problem. You don’t want to. You just want to whine.

I have a few ADW’s. I’m sorry NYRAbets was down but I learned a LONG time ago not to have just one ADW for days like this.

It’s funny all you do is whine about NYRA but it’s all you “play.”

Konk 06-06-2020 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1138816)
Meanwhile those of us that aren’t eating paste three meals a day are watching on RTN where we can switch from whatever track feed we want and Fox Day at the Races.

It’s almost like you don’t want to watch your fake bets you post lose.

I don't have a stick or roku - just an old XP computer and RTN comes in no problem.

Dahoss 06-06-2020 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Konk (Post 1139017)
I don't have a stick or roku - just an old XP computer and RTN comes in no problem.

Agreed...their online platform is great. At home I watch on TV. If I’m out I watch on my phone with no issues at all

Konk 06-06-2020 04:52 PM

IT's on everyday on YouTube. Live. Even when not on TV.
I can watch on XP - ANYONE can watch it! :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wLLQMuVfJM

ScottJ 06-06-2020 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1139000)
It would be nice to see u give an unbiased opinion on something. Nyrabets being down has nothing to do with Andy. No Belmont on tvg for everyone, Not just me. Do you really think I’m the only one unhappy about no TVG? Wise up , you’re all wet. It hasn’t affected you because you don’t bet through NYRA bets, I wonder why.

Let's go back to square one. Do you understand why NYRA will not let its signal be carried over TVG? I will pause here to see if you can come up with an answer, because if you understood the reason why, you would not be as militant as you are on this issue.

So, here's the answer. NYRA now owns a national video feed with 600+ hours of live coverage and racing host talent [also coverage on their own live web site in HD, Roku and similar internet delivery, FS/1, FS/2, FS Regionals, MSG+] and their own wagering platform with NYRABets. Every dollar wagered results in ~16% helping purses and the NYRA business itself. No middle man taking a cut and starving the horsemen and the industry that puts on the show.

Given this, exactly why would they supply their product over the TVG airwaves when they receive pennies instead of the full takeout rate? As we learned from the New York OTB system killing Roosevelt and maiming Yonkers, unless you invest in the racing product, you are a leech taking a fee for a service that is actually NO LONGER NEEDED by the industry.

TVG, DRFBets, and so many others do not need to exist. The racetracks must own the wagering platforms. This is about survival of the racing business and those who run the show, not about inconvenience in not seeing Belmont over a preferred TV channel.

If your personal loyalty is to TVG's broadcast, great. You can follow their exclusive coverage of Santa Anita (until 1st.com takes hold), Gulfstream (until 1st.com takes hold), Los Alamitos, and so forth. TVG will provide video coverage of second tier tracks once Stronach pulls the plug.

The game has now changed - forever. NYRA has been building this video and wagering infrastructure for years. Unless (nearly) all TVG rake flows directly to NYRA, you will never see their product again as long as they are broadcasting with Fox/MSG.

Alabama Stakes 06-06-2020 08:26 PM

Scott, if they had all the races on fox 1 or 2 it would be fine but it's not. I don't bet with TVG and have no loyalty to them. It is simply on tv. I don't really care for the way they treated the New York tracks. That not showing the last race so they could show post parades or cheap claimers over stakes races was lousy. If it is so clear cut, why did it take so long for nyra to make the chànge ?

Dahoss 06-06-2020 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1139041)
Scott, if they had all the races on fox 1 or 2 it would be fine but it's not. I don't bet with TVG and have no loyalty to them. It is simply on tv. I don't really care for the way they treated the New York tracks. That not showing the last race so they could show post parades or cheap claimers over stakes races was lousy. If it is so clear cut, why did it take so long for nyra to make the chànge ?

Either you’re stupid or obtuse. Neither is a good look and it’s tired.

Numerous people have tried to help you. You’re beyond help. This isn’t about watching the races. You just have to be that guy.

Years ago you would’ve been banned for this nonsense. I long for those days.

ScottJ 06-07-2020 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1139041)
Scott, if they had all the races on fox 1 or 2 it would be fine but it's not.

This is the television schedule over the Fox networks through June 14th. If your objection is about June 5th or June 12th between 2:20pm and 4:30pm, remember that Fox paid millions to broadcast the Bundesliga as counter programming to NBC/NBCSN owning the US rights to the EPL. The season should already be over (done around US Memorial Day), but has been extended to June 27th due to COVID-19.

5-Jun, 1:00 - 2:20 pm FS2, 4:30 - 6:30 pm FS2
6-Jun, 2:30 - 3:00 pm FS2, 3:00 - 8:00 pm FS1
7-Jun, 1:00 - 2:00 pm FS2, 2:00 - 6:00 pm FS1, 6:00 - 6:30 pm FS2
11-Jun, 1:00 - 6:00 pm FS2
12-Jun, 1:00 -*2:20*pm FS2, 4:30 - 6:30 pm FS2
13-Jun, 1:00 - 6:30 pm FS1
14-Jun, 2:00 - 2:30 pm FS2, 2:30 - 6:00 pm FS1

For the missing two hours on Fridays in June, [1] use NYRABets for live video .... [2] or the live YouTube link .... [3] or the video link from your platform provider ... [4] or an RTN feed .... [6] or NYRANow over Roku (which I also use) .... [7] or another internet/TV integration device .... [8] or just break out the Dyson for two hours of housework.

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1139041)
I don't bet with TVG and have no loyalty to them. It is simply on tv. I don't really care for the way they treated the New York tracks. That not showing the last race so they could show post parades or cheap claimers over stakes races was lousy.

This is precisely why you should applaud NYRA's owning and and producing its is own national signal. TVG has competing priorities and non-NYRA preferred partner tracks which creates their own conflicts with major circuits.

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1139041)
If it is so clear cut, why did it take so long for nyra to make the chànge ?

This is where we move into business decisions and I do not see the NYRA books. A reasonable guess would be that with the whole season in front of the NYRA production and with the additional exclusive content available through Churchill on Fox, the direct wagering revenue from TVG was no longer considered substantive ... or at least no longer the deciding element in the business equation.

Alabama Stakes 06-07-2020 10:45 AM

Thanks for taking the time to explain it all to me, Scott. It’s much better than being called stupid.


p.S. Shark Rotator is only vacuum you will ever need. That Dyson guy reminds me of a villain in a B movie.

Dahoss 06-07-2020 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1139056)
Thanks for taking the time to explain it all to me, Scott. It’s much better than being called stupid.

Such a victim. 3 pages of people explaining to you something that doesn’t need to be explained and you’re upset I called you stupid.

No fake bet thread today?

Alabama Stakes 06-07-2020 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1139061)
Such a victim. 3 pages of people explaining to you something that doesn’t need to be explained and you’re upset I called you stupid.

No fake bet thread today?

Bet the 9 win and place in the first and mispunched the ticket.

Dahoss 06-07-2020 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1139062)
Bet the 9 win and place in the first and mispunched the ticket.

That makes about as much sense as this thread.

Did Danny figure out how to navigate RTN yet or do you need Scott to explain that to you too?

Alabama Stakes 06-07-2020 02:09 PM

Site looked confusing. Will try again. You tube tv might be more doable. The soapbox races on fox 2 are awesome though.

Dahoss 06-07-2020 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1139064)
Site looked confusing. Will try again. You tube tv might be more doable. The soapbox races on fox 2 are awesome though.

A cup of coffee looks confusing to you. The site is very user friendly.

Do you have a Roku or Amazon Firestick?

Alabama Stakes 06-07-2020 02:56 PM

No, Comcast. Do have a fancy OLED tv though.

Dahoss 06-07-2020 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1139068)
No, Comcast. Do have a fancy OLED tv though.

That TV must look great surrounded by stacks of newspapers up to the ceiling and empty Chef Boyardee cans

Alabama Stakes 06-07-2020 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1139069)
That TV must look great surrounded by stacks of newspapers up to the ceiling and empty Chef Boyardee cans

My beautiful wife makes Sunday Gravy so good you can eat it like a soup. You must have me confused with someone else.

Dahoss 06-07-2020 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1139071)
My beautiful wife makes Sunday Gravy so good you can eat it like a soup. You must have me confused with someone else.

Nah I think I’ve had you pegged you right for like 10 years now.

goodcopy 06-07-2020 04:42 PM

Just Call Me Stupid
 
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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1139056)
Thanks for taking the time to explain it all to me, Scott. It’s much better than being called stupid.


p.S. Shark Rotator is only vacuum you will ever need. That Dyson guy reminds me of a villain in a B movie.

It doesn't take as long and if it does not help me to pick a 90-1 shot at Santa Anita I DON'T CARE!:mad:

Big Peps 06-08-2020 07:30 AM

NYRA isn't on TVG but they seem to be everywhere else. Fox Sports 1 and 2, MSG, NYRA bets you can get the Fox feed as well. Yesterday I was driving home through the Adirondacks as had the feed on Sirius/ XM which was great as I put all my wagers in before a five hour drive home and listened to the show every step of the way. Youtube live etc.

Anyone who really cares to have the feed can make a slight tweak in any of numerous avenues and have it for every race. It's not rocket science and financially not a huge investment regardless. It's not a big deal but the show with Belmont/ Churchill is the best racing has ever offered IMO.

Open up a NYRA bets account with a $10 deposit get the app and easily transferable to any TV bought in the last 5-6 years. my god. 1% resourceful and problem solved


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