Homer.

I left it out, but I would like to see City of Light end up in both the Whitney and Woodward, so I hope he's an underwhelming winner tomorrow. I've never been impressed by the Pacific Classic. Besides the inaugural edition, there hasn't really been a memorable running other than Cigar's winning streak getting stuffed...and most people probably don't remember that fondly...

Candy Ride vs MDO?!

It was a track record performance, but it was a very short field (4 horses) and Candy Ride was basically unheralded at the time (though considerably hyped in CA) and then never started again. No Mineshaft, no Congaree, no Perfect Drift.

The odds-on Medaglia D'Oro had been bouncing around all year, cherry picking spots and taking 2-4 months between starts and failed yet again to see out a classic distance.

On top of that, it wasn't much of a confrontation. Candy Ride won by open lengths.

I didn't write anything that even remotely suggested that I thought Audible "would have been the pre-eminent threat to Justify".

Also the Met Mile, which was foolishly moved from Memorial Day, when it was huge, to being just another race on Belmont Day, doesn’t mean as much now.

Yes, the Met Mile means less as a stallion maker now because it was moved to Belmont Day....as opposed to when it was held on a day when pretty much everyone is at a barbecue.

It might be time for you to move on from me. Do some soul searching.

That was to Rollo. Not you , or Chad, or Todd.

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We will never know because the owners are holding him out. All horse racing is a gamble. Seems like Justify should have faced alll logical candidates.

I'm not sure that the Met Mile ceases to be huge simply because it is shifted a couple of weeks further into the calendar.

The positives outweigh the negatives with the move. Firstly, in this day of waning public and media interest (no more Budweiser Racing Across America on ESPN), tacking it onto a loaded Belmont Stakes day might be a form of self-preservation. Mega-stables pretty much control the vast majority of top horses and might toss an older horse into such a race if they have a contender for the featured Belmont Stakes. For example, would Hoppertunity show up for the Brooklyn--as opposed to today's Gold Cup at SA--if Baffert didn't have Justify pointing to the Belmont?

Secondly, Belmont can capitalize and highlight the return of the previous year's Triple Crown contenders if they race in big events on the same day as the current year's Classic. For example, prior Belmont winners Palace Malice and Tonalist returned at 4 on the Belmont undercard and took the Met Mile. That might open the door for a casual springtime fan to consider that these horses have careers beyond the Triple Crown...and maybe they'll be yearlong fans instead. Churchill does this with its older horse stakes on their Derby and Oaks days with the Alysheba and La Troienne.

Thirdly, moving the Met Mile fills a decades long gap in the NYRA stakes schedule where there was not an older horse stakes of sufficient importance in the month of June. In the past, they tried to bolster the Nassau County Handicap to fill the void, but it died along with the American Championship Racing Series. The Met Mile in early June fits rather nicely against the up-and-coming Westchester, which is quickly becoming a popular comeback race for the previous season's top horses. This year, Preakness winner Cloud Computing made an aborted comeback attempt, and in prior years horses like Palace Malice, Tonalist, Connect, To Honor And Serve, and Flat Out have used the race as a tune up for the Met and further beyond.

Memorial Day weekend = Indy 500 & Met Mile. I'm just a dinosaur, I guess. Belmont Day was always a stellar card. They didn't need or want the Met Mile taking attention away from the big race.

He'll prove it on June 9 if Baffert has him ready and Mike rides like Mike rides. With them both and an equine like Justify its hard to think of another result than etching his name on the list of true greats. :tro::$:

Agree with this. Doesn’t change the stallion making of the Met Mile whatsoever though.

The "stallion making" quality of the Met Mile has dropped off considerably since the late '90s.

Since Langfuhr in 1997, only the somewhat slow starters Ghostzapper and Quality Road have emerged as top stallions.

We'll see what recent winners Palace Malice, Honor Code, and Frosted can do.

I bet Honor Code is a good sire.

HERE HERE..I SECOND THAT EMOTION

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME A COLT HAD HIS CAREER TRUNCATED BY THE SAME OWNERSHIP GROUP TO MAKE ANOTHER OF THEIRS APPEAR BETTER THAN HE MIGHT REALLY BE.

THIS IS WRONG..IT IS GREED
AND IT DOES NOTHING FOR THE FANS OR THE SPORT BY FALSELY GIVING JUSTIY A CHANCE TO WIN THE TC,.

WRONG WRONG WRONG..

SHAME ON THE OWNERS FOR CHEATING THE SPORT IN THIS MANNER

You and nick are both idiots

so whats the matter with vinno.
he won the wood on the track, skipped the preak...yet there's no love for the liquor
at 8 to 1...hmmm

i like him on the board

Bravazo is getting a lot of attention and low odds to boot...dont know if he warrants those odds.

justify ..bob thought he was a good sprinter till they put him on the trail..there are legitimate questions surrounding his pedigree and stamina.
but i will not exclude him from the super ticket...if they run a double rabbit..first to 6f..then another to 9f..he will definitely cave.

and if justify wins the TC its a hollow victory,,the same folks who own justify own AUDIBLE who has a legit shot at defeating justify here.
I can't ever recall a situation were a good colt has his career twisted like audibles to make another colt look better than he might possibly be..can you ?

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BOLT IN THE MET MILE...HUH ?

wouldn't he be better off with a win ion the 7f colt race..gr2..woody stephens i think its called

good day for racing only problem is , the day is not on a payday wekend like the derby and preak.

got 15 bucks at tvg..i'll see where the day takes me, if i have cash for the belmont by 5:45..i'll bet.
i can't fund tvg today..so lets hope i can turn my 15 into 50 by 5 oclock

1. Vino won the Wood at Aqueduct, not Belmont.
2. Baffert always thought Justify was a router...he thought he could win the KD before even running in his maiden race.
3. Audible winning would be nearly impossible being that he’s not even in training right now.

1) i keep confusing the wood being run at belmont..my mistake
2) NO..not true..dont make me find the bloodhorse article
3) this is moot and just a stupid comment

so what happens if Audible runs in the travers and defeats Justify..or will Bob have him in hiding for the BCC...another out of competition colt that suddenly will emerge just that much stonger..

if Justify wins in Elmont..a BIG IF, then he looses the Travers to Audible..how does that make Justify's TC look..:eek:, if he were to win (doubtful..no pedigree)

typing about hiding ...how about some out of competition drug testing on Mckenzie...


noooo.. not for double B...he is the reigning trainer de jour..can do no wrong...just ask the stewarts at SA, who seem to all need glasses when BB runs a pony

Your on a roll. First calling two great handicappers idiots and now calling another great poster stupid. Maybe you should read a few of your posts before making judgement on others.

or maybe not..

a GREAT poster..oh my...i stand in awe...awesome again

higher rank allows for judgements of the enlisted
and since you were not called anything..how about you mind your OWN business..something you young folks don't seem to understand

I wish I was young. Good luck with you $15 bucks. You seem to be locked and loaded for huge fortunes this weekend

http://www.drf.com/news/audible-sent...am?enable=true

I think H.M.S Audible has already sailed.:D Just my opinion, but I think, if Audible was going to have an impact on the Triple Crown, it would have been in the Preakness, but it doesn't look like he was in any shape to compete in either of the last two races of the TC.

if you need more than 15 bucks to make a day...your not very good at handicapping

spent 15 bucks on memorial day ..1 bet sequence ..won a dime super for 110.


sad story though...tuesday after memorial day, i got a ticket for cutting thru a 7-11 driveway ..120 ticket..even steven i guess.

he was kept out of the preakness by the owners to unethically inflate Jusify's career.

yes that's right ..UNETHICAL BEHAVIOR.

when is an act considered immoral...well for those who have studied the issue..

an act is immoral if the consequences of the act do not create the greatest happiness for the greatest number.

ruining AUDIBLES career for the sake of Justify..creates the greatest happiness for the owners of Justify..not the fans of the game or the sport itself. creating a unworthy tripe crown champion is immoral

then you get into issues like defining happiness, and defining the greatest number...etc..

do you really want to be a millennial ?


NAH

I might give a millisecond to valuing your opinion if it didn’t come from someone who modeled their screen name after the greatest horse that ever lived and cannot spell it correctly.

if you really think Audible could have beaten Justify, you're not paying very much attention. Not even close.

i didn't see Majestic Beast entered. :D:eek:; I

I do not know you and since this is fact this is not a personal attack merely an observation and IMO which is not worth a hill of beans. Your admission of cutting a light by driving through a 7-11 reveals your immoral behavior. Your ability to behave immoral is proven by your own above statement. More that half of the people who read that post were happy that you received a $110 ticket. Act like an adult with integrity and wait for the light so you do not put lives in jeopardy at the business lot you are cutting through. IMO integrity is sorely needed in society today. All should do their part toward improving this stat.

The certified derbytologist spells like a 4th-grader and has zero clue what he is talking about...ever...but I have no idea what the hell this post is about?!

Earlier in post #67 he added "sad story though...tuesday after memorial day, i got a ticket for cutting thru a 7-11 driveway ..120 ticket..even steven i guess".
Then he defined immoral and that is where my post originated.

Okay I gotcha. My bad.