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jms62 07-27-2016 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 1071024)
**** the media-driven narrative that Presidential campaigns have been civil.

Dude I'll just put you on ignore until we have enough **** happens where you finally have that Eureka! moment.

FFS Jim I like you but turn off the cable news. They're all idiots and radical lesbians and guys who want to be a radical lesbian.

You'll feel better.

Dude you do realize I can only vote (support) for Clinton at the point of a bayonet. If I criticise Trump it is because I think he is doing something that will negattively affect him in the eyes of the undecided voters. And yes the media blows things out of porportion but he should know that and not do things that bring this on. The net of today is he turned off more on the fence voters than turned on.

jms62 07-27-2016 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 1071025)
Yeah if you'd like to be civil then make some posts about the immigration problems.

Balance the rage that way I will be less inclined to question your judgement.

Because I'm rrrreally pissed about the immigration. Pissed. It's a national health crisis. Zika, AIDS, TB, etc.

Antibiotics not working.

More police, bullets, guns, etc.

You know where this is headed. Trump needs to go in harder, IMO.

You're wanting him to go out like a punk like Mormon Jesus. No.

I have no problems with people LEGALLY immigrating into the country. I have a big problem with people immigrating illegally and then being forgiven. Illegal is just that and it shouldn't be rewarded. I have even a bigger problem fast tracking immigrants from Syria as we now can see in France and Germany these immigrants are inflitrated with those wishing to do harm to the west. I have a big problem using H1B visas to replace US workers with indentured servents at one third the cost under the false argument that there isnt enough qualified US workers.

Pants II 07-27-2016 10:11 PM

The leaks aren't over. From what I've read there are 3 more dumps on the way. All timed.

And yes we should all be worried about the ramifications of these dumps because the info shared was damning.

They have all of the data. Even the "scrubbed". And it's not only Russia. It's as Trump said, "400 pounder in their bed." A lot of hands are on it.

Danzig 07-27-2016 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by saratogadew (Post 1071017)
So many experts agree that it was the Russians that hacked the DNC emails. So Trump makes an "off the cuff" comment that maybe they can dig up her 30,000 deleted emails. Now we equate that to internment camps? Hell, let's get real wacky and equate it to joking about slavery. Come on man.

Off the cuff? Was the tweet reiterating his earlier comment also off the cuff?
Strange evidence of how trump will be the law and order candidate.
I remember a gop president telling gorbachev to tear down the berlin wall. And now this complete idiot says come cyber hack a major party nominee....

This guy wants to be commander in chief?! Its a sad joke

Pants II 07-27-2016 10:19 PM

If the 3 dumps happen then what Trump says will have no bearing on the election.

As I said back in my 'last post' 18 days ago we might not have an election.

If they have the 30,000+ deleted e-mails you can bet that is WWIII matchstick material.

It will be a miracle if **** doesn't go downhill in an instant once they're public because it ties the top of our chain to about every enemy on this planet.

Ponder that.

Rudeboyelvis 07-28-2016 08:36 AM

Welcome back Coach

joeydb 07-28-2016 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1071029)
Off the cuff? Was the tweet reiterating his earlier comment also off the cuff?
Strange evidence of how trump will be the law and order candidate.
I remember a gop president telling gorbachev to tear down the berlin wall. And now this complete idiot says come cyber hack a major party nominee....

This guy wants to be commander in chief?! Its a sad joke

Wouldn't it be sadder for the person who "lost" 30,000 emails (that they didn't want the FBI to see) to be commander in chief?

Using alleged incompetence to cover criminal intent, and then trying to get elected for being "only careless" ? :rolleyes:

Rudeboyelvis 07-28-2016 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 1071040)
Wouldn't it be sadder for the person who "lost" 30,000 emails (that they didn't want the FBI to see) to be commander in chief?

Using alleged incompetence to cover criminal intent, and then trying to get elected for being "only careless" ? :rolleyes:

Joey you are talking to yourself. I'm positive she prefers Jill Stein to HRC anyway, and dumb enough to vote for her (which is fine - that is her right as an American and it is one less vote for Hill Jung Un).

She is Trigglypuff. She cannot handle anyone with an opinion other than hers, thus has half the posters here on iggy. As a result, she only chimes in with some brainless observation or an unrelated huffpoo link halfway through a conversation that has already been discussed thoroughly and more adroitly by the adults here.

OldDog 07-28-2016 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1071001)
So tell me that you think it is ok for Trump a candidate for president of the United States to have said what he said. I despise Hillary but for **** sake he needs to keep his ****ing mouth shut. I await your response cause I have a morbid curiosity seeing how someone justifies an unjustifiable position. Whatever she did or didnt do doesn't justify this. Actually we should be ****ing embarassed as citizens of the United States to have our leaders say **** like this. He keeps this up and the 100-1 on Paul Ryan isnt as crazy as it seems.

I think is was clever, perhaps even brilliant, and the Clinton campaign and its media arm took the bait.

Trump never called on the Russians to hack into Hillary's deleted emails. At this point, they can't. IF the Russians or anyone else has her deleted emails they hacked them long ago.

Hillary's lawyers deleted the 30,000 or so emails and she defended this by claiming that they contained only non-work related information, and the Democratic operatives with bylines readily accepted her word as fact. Either she was truthful -- for once -- and the emails pose no national security threat, or she misled a nation and they do. But at this point, as she once famously said, what difference does it make? If the Russians have them, they have them. Nothing that Trump said will change that.

Either way, it's fascinating to ONLY NOW see Democrats and their media allies freaking out over the national security implications of a SOS using a private server. Even more how they try to spin Trump's call for the exposure of "personal" emails as a treasonous act.

OldDog 07-28-2016 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1071037)
Welcome back Coach

Huzzah!

Danzig 07-28-2016 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 1071040)
Wouldn't it be sadder for the person who "lost" 30,000 emails (that they didn't want the FBI to see) to be commander in chief?

Using alleged incompetence to cover criminal intent, and then trying to get elected for being "only careless" ? :rolleyes:

ok. on the emails.
there aren't any lost emails. she deleted private emails. were they all private? I don't know. is the fbi satisfied? seems so. and for a gop appointed gop voter head of the fbi who was impeccably qualified and said to be beyond question regarding integrity to say no charges....well, that's that.

so, do I want a commander in chief who says come and spy over a commander in chief who didn't break any laws?
that's a pretty stupid question.
do I want a commander in chief who says he wants our military to break our laws, to violate Geneva conventions we signed? to invite foreign powers to tamper with our elections, our presidential nominees? effing Russia at that?! I mean, seriously?
how in the hell is his comments on this at all akin to her emails? it's not. she broke no laws, no rules. there is NO evidence of any hacking at all. she didn't send classified info to anyone outside the state dept.
and even if she had done something wrong, in no way does that excuse his calls at all. he keeps showing, every day, how little qualified he is to be president.
I can only imagine the howls from you and others had SHE said what trump said about Russia hacking.

Danzig 07-28-2016 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1071048)
I think is was clever, perhaps even brilliant, and the Clinton campaign and its media arm took the bait.

Trump never called on the Russians to hack into Hillary's deleted emails. At this point, they can't. IF the Russians or anyone else has her deleted emails they hacked them long ago.

Hillary's lawyers deleted the 30,000 or so emails and she defended this by claiming that they contained only non-work related information, and the Democratic operatives with bylines readily accepted her word as fact. Either she was truthful -- for once -- and the emails pose no national security threat, or she misled a nation and they do. But at this point, as she once famously said, what difference does it make? If the Russians have them, they have them. Nothing that Trump said will change that.

Either way, it's fascinating to ONLY NOW see Democrats and their media allies freaking out over the national security implications of a SOS using a private server. Even more how they try to spin Trump's call for the exposure of "personal" emails as a treasonous act.

they aren't freaking out of implications of a private server.
they are, rightfully so, freaking out about this dumbass saying hey Russia, hack my political opponent.
and hell, even gop folks are up in arms about it (or are you ignoring that part?) as they should be. I cannot believe you are saying this is no big deal. a potential president is calling for this for a foreign power, and Russia at that, and you say no big deal?
that's crazy.

Danzig 07-28-2016 12:03 PM

I have a question for those who said Hilary should have been charged.

what charges should she have gotten? what laws were broken?

Danzig 07-28-2016 12:13 PM

William Inboden, who served on the NSC during the George W. Bush administration, said Trump’s comments were “tantamount to treason.”

“Trump’s appeal for a foreign government hostile to the United States to manipulate our electoral process is not an assault on Hillary Clinton, it is an assault on the Constitution,” said Inboden, who now teaches at the University of Texas at Austin.


GOP strategist Stuart Stevens, who advised Mitt Romney, the party’s nominee in 2012, suggested that Trump’s remarks would have merited an immediate court-martial if they’d been made by anyone answering to the commander in chief

the briefest of statements from House Speaker Paul Ryan’s spokesman, who wrote, “Russia is a global menace led by a devious thug. Putin should stay out of this election.”

Trump’s running mate, Mike Pence, released a statement soon after that seemed to attempt to steer the campaign back upon saner streets: “The FBI will get to the bottom of who is behind the hacking [of the DNC’s emails]. If it is Russia and they are interfering in our elections, I can assure you both parties and the United States government will ensure there are serious consequences.”

Danzig 07-28-2016 12:20 PM

and I just read this...wow

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...c39_story.html

money money money. it talks. trump wants rid of nato, wants to say crimea is theirs, because business deals? payback?
and now hey, hack Clinton?
this is not ok. and this is the same dipshit who sent fundraising letters to other countries' politicians. that's illegal to take foreign money. this guy is so clueless.

Pants II 07-28-2016 12:22 PM

Since 1965 immigration act we've gone from 93% to what is it now? About 62%.

We're going to be a minority real soon. And then we will be moved to the back of the bus...hell we already are. Those of us who are white and pay taxes for a soft genocide are the biggest suckers on the planet.

The United States is turning into a 3rd world shithole. Just go to any inner city for proof.

But nah we've got a bunch of hayseeds and urban yuppies posting here.

You aren't going to be able to hide much longer, folks.

Mass immigration is coming for you and yours and they want all of it.

Pants II 07-28-2016 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1071059)
and I just read this...wow

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...c39_story.html

money money money. it talks. trump wants rid of nato, wants to say crimea is theirs, because business deals? payback?
and now hey, hack Clinton?
this is not ok. and this is the same dipshit who sent fundraising letters to other countries' politicians. that's illegal to take foreign money. this guy is so clueless.

That whore you support by not supporting Trump gave 20% of our Uranium to the Russians for a hearty donation to their Foundation/Ponzi Scheme.

You didn't say a damn thing about it.

Why? Because you're a f.ucking idiot.

Pants II 07-28-2016 12:30 PM

What keeps me grounded is the fact that even though my bloodline is doomed regardless of this election is...

that stupid women like Danzig are the reason why this country will be destroyed.

Women weren't allowed to vote for a reason. The Muslims coming over here keep their women in check. They all wear hajibs and keep their eyes to the ground.

We're going to be conquered. They are using the police to keep us all cowed while the government from up top prevents the police from going after the real criminals.

More traffic tickets, harrassment, taxes, security you name it. They are going to destroy us and protect the enemy.

If you can't see that now with the internet readily available to you then you deserve insults. You deserve to watch your family struggle. To see your grandchildren treated like they were the ones who owned slaves.

The narrative is set. And the DHIMMICRATS will destroy this country rather than give up their death grip on white "folks"

Yes Obama means cracker ass cracker whites when he says "folks". Yes he's a racist. Yes his wife is a manly idiot who doesn't realize slaves built every historic building of importance.

Yes we deserve extinction for putting two idiots like that in the white house.

Pants II 07-28-2016 12:48 PM

I just hope that 20 years from now DT is still here and all the posts are saved.

I want to be here in 2032 when there's a big thread on the American flag being banned and display of it a hate crime.

That's where we're headed. We get below 50% you can forget this country existed. At least 15% of our own are self-hating anti-American lunatics.

Pants II 07-28-2016 01:10 PM

You can post your links to support your corrupt side and you can be "polite" while the world burns...but I won't.

Trump is the only person who would have the nerve to default on the debt. That's what we need. We have all the evidence available to rule those debts null and void for a myriad of reasons.

I want all of the e-mails released and I believe that Assange (amongst others) has them.

But what we will see will hide the offenses of the ones backing the hack. BUT common sense tells you that multiple hands have all of the data. ALL OF IT.

This is the only real hope we have of collapsing the central banks and starting anew. We cannot keep letting these criminals run the world. They failed.

OldDog 07-28-2016 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1071054)
they aren't freaking out of implications of a private server.
they are, rightfully so, freaking out about this dumbass saying hey Russia, hack my political opponent.

Sure, that's what he said. :rolleyes:

How is Russia going to hack her server now? (Perhaps, as has been suggested elsewhere, the FBI needs to go down to the evidence room and unplug it. Quick!)

They're freaking out that Trump's "Crooked Hillary" is taking hold, and that they are dumbfounded about how to deal with it. They're not smart enough to freak out with the realization that they created this Trump phenomenon, and that after years of attacking previous Republican nominees over stupid drivel no one is listening to their warnings any more. They are the child who cried wolf.

Danzig 07-28-2016 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1071077)
Sure, that's what he said. :rolleyes:

How is Russia going to hack her server now? (Perhaps, as has been suggested elsewhere, the FBI needs to go down to the evidence room and unplug it. Quick!)

They're freaking out that Trump's "Crooked Hillary" is taking hold, and that they are dumbfounded about how to deal with it. They're not smart enough to freak out with the realization that they created this Trump phenomenon, and that after years of attacking previous Republican nominees over stupid drivel no one is listening to their warnings any more. They are the child who cried wolf.

how does it feel to be so determined to have Hilary lose that you'll forgive trump anything?
he's right, he could kill someone in broad daylight and not lose some of his supporters.

Pants II 07-28-2016 02:01 PM

Isn't there some jug-blowing festival in Bum**** Clintonland this week?

OldDog 07-28-2016 02:15 PM

Yeah, like I need to forgive him for the crime of sarcasm. Or for being a blowhard.

"Do you know what else they say about my people -- the polls? They say I have the most loyal people. Did you ever see that? Where I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, okay?"

Pants II 07-28-2016 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1071090)
Yeah, like I need to forgive him for the crime of sarcasm.

Forgive him for not being a star basketball player who supports cutting off North Carolina for bigotry but hoops it up in China.

Seriously Danzig is too far gone. She's your typical short-haired Hillary supporter. She just plays devil's advocate online for the shits and giggles. Her raggedy ass will vote for Hilldawg. Guaranteed.

Rudeboyelvis 07-28-2016 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 1071084)
Isn't there some jug-blowing festival in Bum**** Clintonland this week?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYcLOKzPimQ

Danzig 07-28-2016 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1071090)
Yeah, like I need to forgive him for the crime of sarcasm. Or for being a blowhard.

"Do you know what else they say about my people -- the polls? They say I have the most loyal people. Did you ever see that? Where I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, okay?"

lol
yeah, he's just a sarcastic blowhard. :rolleyes:

you know, every presidential election til the last two, I voted republican. the last two, I voted for the green party candidate. I have never voted for a democrat for president. I guess that's about to change.

I love history, have studied a ton of it. trump is without a doubt the single worst presidential candidate, or non presidential for that matter, EVER. every day he digs down to a new low.
but yeah, he's just kidding. all his talk about nato, not standing by allies, leaving the organization, and now this...yeah, he's just joking. no big ties to Russia at all.
giving unlawful orders to the military, pfft. just kidding. and tearing up the Geneva conventions with 'beyond waterboarding', all in good fun.
that washpo article, it's just a joke too. all of this, just one big reality show/comedy special.
yeah, ha ha. sooo funny.
the guy shows every day what type of 'leader' he would be.

RHT2004 07-28-2016 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1071095)
lol
yeah, he's just a sarcastic blowhard. :rolleyes:

you know, every presidential election til the last two, I voted republican. the last two, I voted for the green party candidate. I have never voted for a democrat for president. I guess that's about to change.

I love history, have studied a ton of it. trump is without a doubt the single worst presidential candidate, or non presidential for that matter, EVER. every day he digs down to a new low.
but yeah, he's just kidding. all his talk about nato, not standing by allies, leaving the organization, and now this...yeah, he's just joking. no big ties to Russia at all.
giving unlawful orders to the military, pfft. just kidding. and tearing up the Geneva conventions with 'beyond waterboarding', all in good fun.
that washpo article, it's just a joke too. all of this, just one big reality show/comedy special.
yeah, ha ha. sooo funny.
the guy shows every day what type of 'leader' he would be.

What a waste

Pants II 07-28-2016 03:19 PM

Yeah a history buff. LMFAO.

This forum never ceases to make me laugh out loud.

Danzig you probably read a lot of books but that isn't your issue. Your issue is you can't comprehend what you're reading. You are a limited person. Very limited. Otherwise you wouldn't brag when you accomplish something like not walking with a cane.

But please continue posting.


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