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OldDog 07-22-2015 11:34 AM

Well, color me shocked...

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Two key documents are missing from the Iran nuclear deal submitted to Congress, and the two leaders of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee want the Obama administration to hand them over, Chairman Bob Corker said Tuesday.

The Tennessee Republican said he and ranking Democrat Ben Cardin of Maryland wrote to request the missing documents, which he said deal with an Iranian military facility at Parchin and a side agreement Iran reached with the International Atomic Energy Agency.

"We sent a letter today, both of us, asking the administration for the documents," he said.

A Corker spokesperson later told the Washington Examiner:

"Senators Corker and Cardin sent a private letter to Secretary [of State John] Kerry requesting two additional documents associated with the Iran nuclear agreement that were left out of the materials required to be submitted to Congress per the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act that the president signed into law."

Danzig 07-26-2015 01:57 PM

Apparently the huckster is turning to trump-isms to try to move up in the polls. How else can this rank hyperbole be explained?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...50e_story.html

bigrun 07-26-2015 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1036526)
Apparently the huckster is turning to trump-isms to try to move up in the polls. How else can this rank hyperbole be explained?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...50e_story.html

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saying that the pending agreement “will take the Israelis and march them to the door of the oven.”
:zz:

Wtf, Israel has nukes-Iran doesn't...so who would be marched to the oven:confused:

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This is the most idiotic thing, this Iran deal. It should be rejected by both Democrats and Republicans in Congress and by the American people.”
What's Huck's plan?..We invade Iran:eek:...or bomb the shiit out of them?

Hit the road huckster, Trumpster got you by 20 lengths:D

Danzig 07-26-2015 08:34 PM

Whats hucks plan? He has no plan other than to be critical of obama.

The real plan in the immediate future for this vomitous mass of po-lie-ticians is to make the fox 'news' debate. For a sizable portion of those running, the goal isnt the presidency. Its to build a fan base, to get book deals, to get invited to make speeches and lots of money. I figure that we will see large fields from now on. Not much risk, but much potential for monetary rewards.

OldDog 07-27-2015 07:24 AM

Another friendly note from our peace partners


Danzig 08-01-2015 02:05 PM

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...est_moniz.html

bigrun 08-01-2015 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1037341)


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2. Israel. As evidence that the Iran deal is bad, Republicans point to criticism from Israel. But they seem more interested in the rhetoric of Israeli politicians than in the judgments of Israeli security experts. At the July 23 hearing, Kerry read from an article that quoted supportive statements about the deal from the former leaders of two Israeli intelligence agencies. Republicans batted the quotes away. Sen. John Barrasso of Wyoming scoffed, “That wasn’t even in the newspaper. That was a blog post.” Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina dismissed the statements as irrelevant because they didn’t come from elected officials. Why listen to experts when you can rely instead on quotes from politicians?
:zz: typical repuke crap:wf

OldDog 08-03-2015 08:23 AM

The Ayatollah has published a book. He's a swell guy.

http://nypost.com/2015/08/01/iran-pu...estroy-israel/

OldDog 08-07-2015 09:44 AM

Another swell Iranian, Mr. Soleimani, goes to Moscow. Shopping trip?

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"Iranian Quds Force commander Qassem Soleimani recently visited Moscow to meet with senior Russian leaders, according to two Western intelligence sources, despite a travel ban and U.N. Security Council resolutions barring him from leaving Iran.

Soleimani was first designated a terrorist and sanctioned by the U.S. in 2005 for his role as a supporter of terrorism. In October 2011, the U.S. Treasury Department tied Soleimani to the failed Iranian plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to the United States at a popular restaurant in Washington, D.C. The Quds Force is the special forces external wing of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, responsible for supporting terrorist proxies across the Middle East.

U.N. sanctions have not yet been lifted against Iran, and Soleimani, as head of the Iranian Quds Force is sanctioned as part of Security Council Resolution 1747. He is prohibited to travel, and any country that lets him transit or travel is defying the sanctions. Russia is a permanent member of the Security Council and would have been aware of this restriction when meeting with him."

jms62 08-07-2015 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1038244)
Another swell Iranian, Mr. Soleimani, goes to Moscow. Shopping trip?

http://america.aljazeera.com/article...-own-east.html

Danzig 08-07-2015 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1038253)

i know the iran deal is getting some heat....but so many yelling that it's bad are the same ones who say we need to work with other countries. that's what this deal with iran is. the sanctions worked, brought iran to the table...but some of the other countries involved wanted a deal, wanted sanctions to end. we got the best multi-nation deal we could. and then there are candidates fro prez trying to crawfish..huckster said a few years back we needed diplomacy with iran. of course now he says the deal is bad-but that's because anything obama does is bad according to his political foes.

OldDog 08-18-2015 04:36 PM

"I have looked into my own soul and my devotion to principle may once again lead me to an unpopular course, but if Iran is to acquire a nuclear bomb, it will not have my name on it."

http://freebeacon.com/national-secur...nst-iran-deal/

Danzig 08-18-2015 04:51 PM

i doubt they ever muster enough votes to override a veto. no doubt a few will vote no, knowing ultimately it doesn't mean squat-except for reelection purposes of course.

jms62 08-18-2015 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1039992)
"I have looked into my own soul and my devotion to principle may once again lead me to an unpopular course, but if Iran is to acquire a nuclear bomb, it will not have my name on it."

http://freebeacon.com/national-secur...nst-iran-deal/

Pretty funny "Devotion to Principal" comes out of his mouth.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/02/ny...rges.html?_r=0

Danzig 08-18-2015 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1039997)
Pretty funny "Devotion to Principal" comes out of his mouth.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/02/ny...rges.html?_r=0

Oh. Wow. Glad he found his principles...
not necessarily good ones.

Rupert Pupkin 08-19-2015 12:43 PM

Is this some kind of a joke? Who needs independent inspectors? We can trust Iran to police themselves. : "Iran, in an unusual arrangement, will be allowed to use its own experts to inspect a site it allegedly used to develop nuclear arms under a secret agreement with the U.N. agency that normally carries out such work, according to a document seen by The Associated Press."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...08-19-13-06-05

OldDog 08-20-2015 06:40 AM

Obama promised unprecedented verification. I will concede that it's certainly that.

In related news, O.J. Simpson's investigation into Nicole Brown Simpson's murder is ongoing.

Danzig 08-20-2015 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1040149)
Obama promised unprecedented verification. I will concede that it's certainly that.

In related news, O.J. Simpson's investigation into Nicole Brown Simpson's murder is ongoing.

i bet the murderer is in ojs jail cell.

Danzig 09-09-2015 05:36 PM

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-tr...n-nuclear-deal

The three stooges have spoken.

bigrun 09-09-2015 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1042800)


You got that right:tro:..saw them on eve news tonite...who let Palin out of the closet:zz:...who's next..Glenn Beck:D

btw, just what is their plan for Iran...nuke em or invade:eek:

Danzig 09-09-2015 06:50 PM

Wonder what the gop thought of colin powells comments?

Rudeboyelvis 09-09-2015 07:06 PM

Wonder what the libs that supported this mess think of the Ayatollah's comments?

Iran’s Supreme Leader Says Israel Won’t Exist in 25 Years


>>>TEHRAN — Iran’s supreme leader predicts that Israel will not exist in 25 years, and rules out any new negotiations with the “Satan,” the United States, beyond the recently completed nuclear accord.<<<

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/10/wo...xist.html?_r=0

The 25 years is no coincidence - that's when the lol *agreement* supposedly expires. And by then if not sooner (by sooner, of course is when they've successfully enriched uranium and can produce their own nukes or acquire them from N. Korea and Russia) with the hundreds of billions of dollars (in the form of aid from the US and the lifting of sanctions- more like less than 10 years), they'll have the ability to bomb the living fuk out of anyone they choose.

But your president knows this.

bigrun 09-09-2015 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1042802)
Wonder what the gop thought of colin powells comments?

The only honest man in the Dumya/Darth Vader regime..am sure the repukes will boil him in oil...how dare he not follow the party line.:tro:


http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ira...d-deal-n422551

bigrun 09-09-2015 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1042804)
Wonder what the libs that supported this mess think of the Ayatollah's comments?

Iran’s Supreme Leader Says Israel Won’t Exist in 25 Years


>>>TEHRAN — Iran’s supreme leader predicts that Israel will not exist in 25 years, and rules out any new negotiations with the “Satan,” the United States, beyond the recently completed nuclear accord.<<<

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/10/wo...xist.html?_r=0

The 25 years is no coincidence - that's when the lol *agreement* supposedly expires. And by then if not sooner (by sooner, of course is when they've successfully enriched uranium and can produce their own nukes or acquire them from N. Korea and Russia with the hundreds of billions of dollars in the form of aid from the US and the lifting of sanctions- more like less than 10 years), they'll have the ability to bomb the living fuk out of anyone they choose.

But your president knows this.


Psssssssssssssssst...Israel has nukes:p...You think they will wait for Iran to build and use one on them before they unload on Iran:zz:
And my president know this;)

Danzig 09-09-2015 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1042804)
Wonder what the libs that supported this mess think of the Ayatollah's comments?

Iran’s Supreme Leader Says Israel Won’t Exist in 25 Years


>>>TEHRAN — Iran’s supreme leader predicts that Israel will not exist in 25 years, and rules out any new negotiations with the “Satan,” the United States, beyond the recently completed nuclear accord.<<<

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/10/wo...xist.html?_r=0

The 25 years is no coincidence - that's when the lol *agreement* supposedly expires. And by then if not sooner (by sooner, of course is when they've successfully enriched uranium and can produce their own nukes or acquire them from N. Korea and Russia) with the hundreds of billions of dollars (in the form of aid from the US and the lifting of sanctions- more like less than 10 years), they'll have the ability to bomb the living fuk out of anyone they choose.

But your president knows this.

Probably the same thing the cons think who support it, or all of those in the middle.
and i worry as much about the atlyatollahs ramblings as i do about kim jong un. That is to say, not at all.

Rudeboyelvis 09-09-2015 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 1042806)
Psssssssssssssssst...Israel has nukes:p...You think they will wait for Iran to build and use one on them before they unload on Iran:zz:
And my president know this;)

So by this response one can only deduce that you're in agreement that your president's toothless *Accord* is meaningless and does nothing except stick 100's of billions into the coffers of a country that is funding ISIS.


Good going, you!

bigrun 09-09-2015 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1042808)
So by this response one can only deduce that you're in agreement that your president's toothless *Accord* is meaningless and does nothing except stick 100's of billions into the coffers of a country that is funding ISIS.


Good going, you!

Did you get that intel from Faux news?...Iran is funding ISIS?...Iran is 80% Shiite..ISIS consists largely of Sunnis-you know, Saddam's old crew-and Iran is doing battle with ISIS in Iraq..

Danzig 09-09-2015 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1042808)
So by this response one can only deduce that you're in agreement that your president's toothless *Accord* is meaningless and does nothing except stick 100's of billions into the coffers of a country that is funding ISIS.


Good going, you!

Iran doesnt fund isis. Christ.

A lot of private donors are from qatar. Isis also sells oil from captured areas, and taxes residents in areas they control.
as for countries who support isis..its qatar, the uae, kuwait and saudi arabia.

bigrun 09-09-2015 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1042813)
Iran doesnt fund isis. Christ.

A lot of private donors are from qatar. Isis also sells oil from captured areas, and taxes residents in areas they control.
as for countries who support isis..its qatar, the uae, kuwait and saudi arabia.


And all of those are our friends:eek:

Danzig 09-09-2015 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 1042816)
And all of those are our friends:eek:

Friends? No. A very smart man once warned us about alliances. (Also said to stay the hell out of european politics, and was so right about that. )Because , one may agree with another on something. Or even several things. But no one can find someone who agrees with them on everything.

That's the thing, whose side do we take? Well, it should always be our own of course. But its not always easy to figure out who would be our best local partner.
Syria, for instance.

In order for a war to be just, three things are necessary. First, the authority of the sovereign. Secondly, a just cause. Thirdly, a rightful intention.
Thomas Aquinas

Now,Thomas was right. But there is more needed. You have to be able to win, else why bother? Cause, if you can't win, you end up with Afghanistan, a war we are still in.
So, for Syria...do we have the authority? A just cause? What would our intention be?
And most importantly...who exactly would we assist? Who would we want in charge? What would the results be? If it would go as our last two efforts have gone, then my god, why do a thing? Haven't we mucked things up enough already in that region?
We and our euro allies have done our level best the last hundred years to completely **** up the middle East. lies in ww one, borders drawn arbitrarily with no input from the people actually living there.
It's like when we kept relocating our native population. But, instead of land, gold, etc...now its oil.

bigrun 09-10-2015 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1042817)
Friends? No. A very smart man once warned us about alliances. (Also said to stay the hell out of european politics, and was so right about that. )Because , one may agree with another on something. Or even several things. But no one can find someone who agrees with them on everything.

That's the thing, whose side do we take? Well, it should always be our own of course. But its not always easy to figure out who would be our best local partner.
Syria, for instance.

In order for a war to be just, three things are necessary. First, the authority of the sovereign. Secondly, a just cause. Thirdly, a rightful intention.
Thomas Aquinas

Now,Thomas was right. But there is more needed. You have to be able to win, else why bother? Cause, if you can't win, you end up with Afghanistan, a war we are still in.
So, for Syria...do we have the authority? A just cause? What would our intention be?
And most importantly...who exactly would we assist? Who would we want in charge? What would the results be? If it would go as our last two efforts have gone, then my god, why do a thing? Haven't we mucked things up enough already in that region?
We and our euro allies have done our level best the last hundred years to completely **** up the middle East. lies in ww one, borders drawn arbitrarily with no input from the people actually living there.
It's like when we kept relocating our native population. But, instead of land, gold, etc...now its oil.


You are preaching to the saved:tro:..Kuwait is not our friend?..Didn't the first Bush send troops there and drive out Iraq invaders..Desert Storm:$:..too bad his son failed to learn anything from that:mad:..

GenuineRisk 09-10-2015 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 1042805)
The only honest man in the Dumya/Darth Vader regime..am sure the repukes will boil him in oil...how dare he not follow the party line.:tro:


http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ira...d-deal-n422551

I just wish he hadn't been so willing to toe the party line back in 2003.

bigrun 09-10-2015 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1042828)
I just wish he hadn't been so willing to toe the party line back in 2003.

Am sure they held a gun to his head to make that speech to the U.N. to "justify" invading Iraq...He sure slipped into the shadows..think i've seen one interview with him...

Danzig 09-10-2015 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 1042827)
You are preaching to the saved:tro:..Kuwait is not our friend?..Didn't the first Bush send troops there and drive out Iraq invaders..Desert Storm:$:..too bad his son failed to learn anything from that:mad:..

People are your 'friend' when they need you. Kuwait dont need us now.
and yeah, too bad bush two didnt listen to his pop....and now a region in chaos, which is why we didnt go further in gulf one.
better the devil you know then the devil you dont. And saddam was once a friend, we backed him vs iran.
then again, we backed bin laden in afganistan vs russia.
what has choosing got us all these decades in that hellhole? More hellholes.
whackamole on a grand scale.

bigrun 09-13-2015 06:45 PM

6 things you should know about the Iran nuclear deal.


http://www.richmond.com/article_216b...0ac7ced5d.html

OldDog 09-16-2015 08:36 AM

Side effects https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNvHAjcHAvs

OldDog 12-23-2015 06:48 AM

More good news!

http://www.bloombergview.com/article...-congress-knew

Meanwhile, the United Nations found last week that an Iranian ballistic missile test in October violated a Security Council resolution.

What is it again that those ballistic missiles are used for...?

OldDog 01-12-2016 04:16 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Iran was holding 10 U.S. Navy sailors and their two small Navy boats after the boats had mechanical problems and drifted into Iranian waters, but American officials have received assurances from Tehran that they will be returned safely and promptly.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...01-12-16-04-56

OldDog 04-06-2016 08:47 AM

Smart diplomacy update
 
President Obama expressed disappointment in the mullahs' actions of late, you know, the launching of ballistic missiles and calling for the destruction of Israel, that sort of stuff. He declared in last Friday's presser that they are inconsistent with "the spirit of the agreement," the JCPOA (which Iran never signed).

SHOT
Iran responds:

Chief of Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces Major General Hassan Firouzabadi blasted US President Barack Obama for his remarks against Tehran’s implementation of the nuclear deal, and said he is raising excessive demands.

“We studied the details of the nuclear agreement and didn’t see anything but its text and don’t have any information about its spirit,” Firouzabadi said, addressing the Chief of Staff’s commanders and officials in Tehran on Tuesday, following the US president’s call on Tehran to work on the spirit of the July nuclear deal.

Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) Commander Major General Mohammad Ali Jafari has said Iran is preparing for all-out war with the US and its allies, and has vowed Iran will continue advancing and testing its ballistic missile program.

Speaking at a gathering of senior IRGC commanders in Tehran Tuesday, Jafari declared that the US “would not be able to do a damned thing” in the face of Iranian advances, according to official Tasnim news agency.

“For years, we have been building power on the presumption of a widespread war with the US and its allies, and have developed all our capacities and capabilities for decisive victories over such enemies,” Jafari said.

The top Iranian general also blasted neighboring Arab states for what he termed as “stupid behavior,” in opting to align with Israel and the United States against Iran.

“Regimes like Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and their peers are symbols of modern political underdevelopment, and the IRGC… has made preparations for response to their rudeness and stupid behavior, which stems from (their) reliance on the US power,” he stated.



CHASER
The Reuters article http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-usa...-idUKKCN0WQ1JF on the recently unsealed indictments of seven Iranians for hack attacks on United States financial institutions and infrastructure buries this gem: “U.S. officials largely completed the investigation more than a year ago, according to two sources familiar with the matter, but held off releasing the indictment so as to not jeopardize the landmark 2015 nuclear deal with Iran or a January prisoner swap.”

Now that’s the spirit.

richard burch 04-10-2016 10:19 PM

very dangerous situation. the long story is, if Iran nukes Israel, they will also be nuked.

The End.

and those north Koreans are crazy too.


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