There is also no way you can win when you take a confirmed speed horse out of their game. Where did Heart to Heart end up today? You're telling me Saez wouldn't have had a better chance if he just let his horse run? The thing stalked a freaking :44 and change half last time!

nice job Benny

SA 7
$4 Pick3 - 4,5,6,7,8/4/2,7
$40

jeez how long will it take them to decide to take the 4 down?:confused:

Churchill Downs 3 $0.50 P3 3,6 / 1,3 / 7,9 $4.00
Jun. 1 Churchill Downs 3 $0.50 P3 2,3,6 / 1,3 / 4,5,7,9 $12.00

that away to go girl :)

Churchill Race 4$20 WP #4

Churchill Downs Race: 4
Amount: $0.50 Type: Pick 4 Horses: 1,3/4,5,7,8/1,6/2,4,7,9
Total Cost: $32.00
Post Time: 6/13/20

CANCELLED

SA 9

20 ex box 67

$46

Santa Anita Race 9 $20 WP #1

172.80 thx to the DQ that worked out okay :)

Churchill Race 5 $20 WP #5

CD 5

$6 ex 7 /2,8

CD pick 5
379/126/2379/124/13

you and me both

No offense taken - thanks for the views. Both JRC (Japan) and Hong Kong DEMAND plans filed from the trainer prior to their races covering issues like intention to go for the lead, midpack, or close, whether the race is a warm-up for a later event, or any infirmaties that the horse has experienced. Moreso, both the JRC and HKJC require the horse's weight to be reported on a race-by-race basis. Both of these pieces of information would be huge benefits to the US-based past performance analysis.

This is exactly the point - if the intention was to rate the horse in order to teach some new lessons that might be applicable for longer distances, wouldn't you have wanted to know that as a handicapper. I would have said to myself, this horse is not pressing a 44:4-45:3 half mile time so what implications does that have on my betting strategy.

The problem is that you can no longer decide who is leaving and who is stalking - the paces seem random. Take for example Cornelio Velasquez's win on Knuckle Curve in the 7th race. Ask yourself this question : Cornelio, normally a very conservative rider, breaks with this horse and pushes him to the lead. I would have liked to know that the strategy was to put this one on the lead since my bets on both Tiz the Moment and Fitzgerald would have been different.

Something I have found over the years : The probability of the favorite winning increases proportionally with the amount of coverage you have in that leg.

CD 6
$1.50 Pick4 - 1,2,3/2,7,9/1,2,5/5
$40.50

Churchill Race 6 $20 WP #6

Churchill Downs Race: 6
Amount: $0.50 Type: Pick 4 Horses: 1,3,6/2,4,7-9/1,2,5/2,5,7
Total Cost: $67.50

nice lava .....i got shut out on my saver :wf

$2 Pick3 - 7,9/1,2,4,5,7/5
$20

nice lava

EVD pick 4

37/27/36/all

Thanks everyone

Churchill Race 7 $20 WP #1

Cd 7

20 Dd 2/4

you have got to be kidding me....:wf