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Benny 08-23-2014 12:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottJ (Post 994799)
I just watched the replay panshot (head-on not available).

Castellano was clearly tipping outside of Bayerd with Today's Agenda and then pulled the left rein to come back inside and try to pin Irad Ortiz and Ludicrous down to the rail behind the front speed.

It appears to me that Castellano was trying to either beat Ludicrous or specifically get the nod over rival Ortiz - but he clearly did not ride the race in order to defeat the front runner or he would have come wide.

It also appears that there was bumping in the stretch and the breakdown occurred after some contact - and given the right front injury, this could have been a fatal blow delivered by Castellano's mount.

Now, I am not a steward clearly. I know that Castellano gets away with many dangerous actions on the track in the name of being competitive.

This deserves days in my view. The rider's actions put several in danger on the track and that must be handled by the stewards.
These are 2 yo horses, why try to split them instead of around ?:wf

jms62 08-23-2014 12:45 PM
Nice of Jose to set the table for his brother.

pointman 08-23-2014 12:46 PM
I guess I needed a reminder of why Lukas/Lanerie are auto tosses. :wf

pointman 08-23-2014 12:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottJ (Post 994799)
I just watched the replay panshot (head-on not available).

Castellano was clearly tipping outside of Bayerd with Today's Agenda and then pulled the left rein to come back inside and try to pin Irad Ortiz and Ludicrous down to the rail behind the front speed.

It appears to me that Castellano was trying to either beat Ludicrous or specifically get the nod over rival Ortiz - but he clearly did not ride the race in order to defeat the front runner or he would have come wide.

It also appears that there was bumping in the stretch and the breakdown occurred after some contact - and given the right front injury, this could have been a fatal blow delivered by Castellano's mount.

Now, I am not a steward clearly. I know that Castellano gets away with many dangerous actions on the track in the name of being competitive.

This deserves days in my view. The rider's actions put several in danger on the track and that must be handled by the stewards.
He deserves days and should kiss the stars that the owner of that horse can't sue him for the value of the horse.

Benny 08-23-2014 12:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pointman (Post 994807)
I guess I needed a reminder of why Lukas/Lanerie are auto tosses. :wf
Ditto.

knickslions2 08-23-2014 12:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 994794)
Nice Knicks and Point...
Thanks

Toga 6

$20 win 4
$20 dd
4,8/10

hoovesupsideyourhead 08-23-2014 12:55 PM
Race #6 08/23/2014
Saratoga
$50.00 Win/Place
# 12
$100.00

you will never see jj get days at toga imo

FATPIANO 08-23-2014 01:01 PM
Spa 6th
10 ex box 2 12
10 wp 2
10 wp 12

pointman 08-23-2014 01:13 PM
Spa 6

$20W 4
$10DD 4,12/2,6

IrishofNDMan 08-23-2014 01:15 PM
Race #6 08/23/2014
Saratoga
$5.00 Pick-3
# 12
WT # 2,3,10
WT # 2,4
$30.00

jms62 08-23-2014 01:16 PM
Saratoga 7

$20 DBL 12/1,4

HoosierInOhio 08-23-2014 01:17 PM
August 23 11:09 AM Saratoga Thoroughbred 6 2.00 DB (PWHL) 2, 3 / 1, 2, 10 $12.00
August 23 11:08 AM Saratoga Thoroughbred 6 2.00 EX (BOX ) 2, 3, 8, 10 $24.00

Benny 08-23-2014 01:17 PM
aratoga Race Course 6 $1.00 P3 8 / 2,3,10 / 2,4 $6.00
Saratoga Race Course 6 $1.00 P3 2,4,8 / 2,3,10 / 2,4 $18.00

declansharbor 08-23-2014 01:31 PM
Monmouth 4

$25 DD 5 / 5,8
$10 DD 2 / 5

Toga 7

$5 P3 1,2,3,4,6 / 2,4,7 / 7

GL all!

Benny 08-23-2014 01:35 PM
FYI
 
SC at drf says, R8 now on inner turf,and R9 now on Mellon turf.

ateamstupid 08-23-2014 01:39 PM
Pretty much all sucker horses winning so far at Saratoga today. McIlroy at 2-1 was the icing on the cake.

FATPIANO 08-23-2014 01:39 PM
Spa 7th
10 ex box 4/10
10 dd 4/10 2

pointman 08-23-2014 01:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 994833)
Pretty much all sucker horses winning so far at Saratoga today. McIlroy at 2-1 was the icing on the cake.
I could not agree more about McIlory, I would never have taken 2-1 on that horse, to me the majority of scenarios were against. But it seems that these types have beaten me a lot this meet.

LAP_520 08-23-2014 01:41 PM
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Keep this in the back of your mind ... and see how many more times J C goes after I O.

pointman 08-23-2014 01:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LAP_520 (Post 994836)
Keep this in the back of your mind ... and see how many more times J C goes after I O.
Interesting perspective that makes one think. However if the stewards do the right thing, Javier will lose enough days to put Irad over the top. Javier needs some time on the bench after that.

jms62 08-23-2014 01:48 PM
Saratoga 7

$20 DD 4/2,8

pointman 08-23-2014 01:48 PM
Spa 7

$20W 2
$20DD 2/3,7

knickslions2 08-23-2014 01:49 PM
Toga 7

$20 dd
10/4,10

pointman 08-23-2014 01:55 PM
Maragh might want to ask Irad for his jock strap back. :wf

knickslions2 08-23-2014 01:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 994812)
Thanks

Toga 6

$20 win 4
$20 dd
4,8/10
$200

knickslions2 08-23-2014 02:02 PM
Toga 8

$20 win 10
$20 dd
4,10/7

declansharbor 08-23-2014 02:03 PM
Monmouth 5 $20 win 2
$8 ex 8 / 2,3

jms62 08-23-2014 02:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 994842)
$200
Nice Knicks

ScottJ 08-23-2014 02:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pointman (Post 994837)
Interesting perspective that makes one think. However if the stewards do the right thing, Javier will lose enough days to put Irad over the top. Javier needs some time on the bench after that.
This was exactly the point I raised earlier; it seemed that Castellano was having a moment of temper on the track when he tried to ride Ortiz into the inside path in that earlier baby race.

The in-house NYRA team did not even mention the race riding tactics, the outcome, or the injury. Nor was there a tweet about the incident aside from noting that Irad Ortiz came back to win the fifth race with what was an excellent ride. This incident deserves coverage - perhaps not in the moment as I have suggested - but certainly is worthy of discussion.

knickslions2 08-23-2014 02:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 994845)
Nice Knicks
Thanks jim

hoovesupsideyourhead 08-23-2014 02:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 994833)
Pretty much all sucker horses winning so far at Saratoga today. McIlroy at 2-1 was the icing on the cake.
true


Race #8 08/23/2014
Saratoga
$50.00 Win/Place
# 9
$100.00


Race #9 08/23/2014
Saratoga
$4.00 Pick-4
# 3,4,7
WT # 5,7
WT # 2,6
WT # 1,2,6
$144.00


Race #13 08/23/2014 play o the day
Saratoga
$200.00 Win/Place
# 10
$400.00


gl all off to the thunder boat unlimited races here in the p cola bay!!

jms62 08-23-2014 02:15 PM
Race 8

$50 DD 2,8/3

declansharbor 08-23-2014 02:20 PM
Toga 8
$20 DD 2,7 / 7

$10 p3 2,3 / 7 / 2,7

pointman 08-23-2014 02:21 PM
Spa 8

$20W 7
$20DD 3,7/7

casp0555 08-23-2014 02:22 PM
Spa 8

$1 Trifecta - 2,4/2,4,7/2,4,5,7,10
$12

Benny 08-23-2014 02:23 PM
Saratoga Race Course Race: 8
Amount: $3.00 Type: Daily Double Horses: 3,4,7/4,7
Total Cost: $18.00

IrishofNDMan 08-23-2014 02:23 PM
Race #8 08/23/2014
Saratoga
$25.00 Win
# 10
$25.00

HoosierInOhio 08-23-2014 02:23 PM
August 23 12:22 PM Saratoga Thoroughbred 8 5.00 DB (PWHL) 4, 7 / 1, 4, 7

pointman 08-23-2014 02:28 PM
I hope the 7 does not get taken down for Rosie's little cute move of coming out on the 3 in the stretch. The stewards rarely penalize it, but I bet they will when I am on this side of it.

ateamstupid 08-23-2014 02:28 PM
Another ****ing absurdly slow pace on the turf. Just pathetic.


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