No way does anyone in the upper echelon ever do something like he did yesterday, never. That was absolutely inexcusable and he should be called in. Did you really see the race?

http://www.racereplays.com/nybreds/i...cename=monday1

Watch this, you just have to. hes on the three, a horse who has won stalking the pace and who posesses more early speed than anyone in the race. Note him breaking to the lead, and then taking a hard hold for no reason, and then continuing to stand up in the saddle and keep wrangling her back until shes last, behind a 23:1 1/4 mile, and then being forced to go real wide and get beat a neck.


Enjoy the comedy, tragedy if you bet or own or train her.

Only bad????

Thats fair:)

He has to be winning at like a .02% clip on favorites. It makes no sense at all.

I did. That ride makes me think he's having someone book for him.

Ah the Devil's advocate.
The topic is not his riding in general which is good.
Did you see the ride in question? Did you have the DRF so as to base your comments on the ride in an informed manner.
Something tells me you haven't, hence the need for a general comment in response rather than addressing that specific ride.
Link to the replay is posted above, please watch it and tell me what you see. having the pp's so you know about the horses in the race and their running style would help as well. I can email you those if need be.

Pillow I'd like to think it was just incredibly stupid judgement, but that thought crossed my mind as well.

He has to be pretty damn stupid then. Maybe they should have a testing system like the SAT for jockeys.

Man I will tell you one thing though, hes a strong little bastard isn't he?
Imagine having the strength to grab one with that much speed that hard so as to take her from first to last in a 23:1 quarter?
I'm not kidding, he must be strong as an ox in order to have done that.

Umm, we'd have a real jockey shortage.

Tard strength. :D

Touche :cool:

What do you think the questions would be on the Jockey SAT?

2+2 =
What letter comes before the letter C?

I'd start with a multiple choice question:
You are riding in a sprint race on a contender who has won close to the pace, and set a very fast 1/4 mile in a 125 grand stakes race. Your horse breaks well and makes the lead easily out of the gate and the field is not going very fast.
Do you
A) Keep going on the lead and try to wire them
B) Allow the horse to race under a loose rein while stalking the leader in a great spot
C) either A or B
D) Grab that Mother****er just as hard as you can and strangle her back to dead last behind a very slow 1/4 mile and then go 4 wide at the top of the stretch.

The correct choice is C. Garrett obviously would choose D.

Cajun, you seem like a very knowledgable horse race fan, thats why you baffle me in that you can question the racing integrity of a brilliant horse like Bernardini, and on the flip side actually think a hanging, cheating, gutless horse like Perfect Drift actually has a chance to win the Classic.

At least he beat Mineshaft once upon a time, and ran PP to a neck, as well as Roses in May.
Whose Bernadini beaten? Who actually finished the race that is.:)

Perfect Drift has started more times than Bernardini has taken a shiat. He's also raced against tougher competition... he may hang, but if he DOESN'T hang in the BCC this time around, you will be the one eating crow. :D

Ok thats it, I just can't take it anymore. I have admired Bernadini, but this last post on here has put me over the edge. The Bern fans are just too much. Please let him lose on BC day. This has to end.

perfect drift was impeded when Roses in may stole the race

I will let you all in to my brillance here. This is why I think Drifty has every shot at winning this race. Because when Drifty wants to run, he runs. He likes Churchill. But my main reason for thinking he very well may surprise you is his ability to rise to the competition. He may not win it, but I think he will be there in the end. Lots of you are saying he hangs, well dang it if he does he is hanging with the best of them. If Bernardini beats him, I predict it will not be by much more than a length.

My dream trip for him will be Lava and Bernardini in front of him turning for home. My guess is Drifty rises to the occasion. I think you all will see a totally different horse on Classic day! That is just my opinion though.

If I am wrong, I will announce that I am wrong, if I am right, I will need all of your addresses to send you a present! :D

Oh come on, Mineshaft lost because of his horrid ride. Bernardini has only beaten what has been entered against him, thats not his fault. I don't think Perfect Drift will be a challenge in the least, unless he gets in his way on the way back to the winners circle.

Okay, I say the only way Perfect Drift beats him in the Classic is if Bernardini's gate doesn't open. I really don't care how many times he's started, he's a lot older. It's what they make of their starts that excites me, Perfect Drift would come in second in a 35,000 claimer.

He may hang? May? Why wouldnt he hang? Doesnt he always hang? How about the day he hung and let Seek Gold beat him. LOL!

Damn, I hope you guys like the taste of crow. :eek:

Durkin said she was "wrangled back"...bullsh*t....looked like Ric Flair had her in some kind of Full Nelson headlock.

and this is coming from the guy that is still trying to figure out what Prado was thinking on Round Pond...no wait....he wasn't thinking at all.

I give you Larharge a "be nice". Everyone is entitled to their opinion even crazy Buffy and crazier Cajun. Atleast we won't be eating crow for dinner on November 4th.

And the rest of you dudes can Bite ME! Drifty has more class than you guys will ever hope to have. Don't you diss him. Who are you to diss him? :p :p :p

He got to the front too early. Gomez is going to have to time it just right.

I will send you and kev some bbq sauce for your crow Gander, just cause I like you two. Even though you are dissing my boy.

LOL!!!
yeah kev that was hysterical, wrangled back. It was like even Durkin wanted to yell what the **** are you doing Gomez?

Prado may not have given his best ride there, but he didn't do anything to completely destroy all chance she had. She ran well, and may have been closer to the top two out wasn't going to beat them Kev.
I'm still trying to figure out if Fleet Indian was that brave, or if Balleto simply refuses to pass anyone a la Perfect Drift.
tell you one thing though, the key bet on BC Day is to key Belleto underneath in gimmicks.

Like I told Andy the other day Mike....all I ever ask for is a chance...I just wanted a chance for Round Pond to win. But when you know at the 1/2 mile you have ZERO chance...it is maddening. They could not have gift wrapped that any better for Fleet Indian. Now...I am not saying that RP would have won...but I think she could have given FI fits if Prado had stayed back with her, instead of up on the lead with those fractions.

I just wanted a chance and Prado gave RP ZERO chance that race.

I agree totally, but I'd rather have em trying to hard on the lead then grabbing for their life at the back of the pack. Wasted energy is very hard to take.

Balleto should have rolled right by, she just gets even and idles.

Perfect Drift will finish no better than 6th. I will take even money if anyone would like the bet.

just two examples of ways to give a bad ride. Surely Edgar read the DRF and knew how fast they would be going up front....so why cut those fractions with them?

www.cashcall.com Just in case you get too many offers and your bold prediction doesn't work out. I have a feeling you're going to need it.

Why not just stick with Guidry on PD? With that being said-

Watch PD blow the tote board to Minneapolis when he wins... If he can stay out of traffic, he's gonna be a monster.