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dellinger63 08-15-2014 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 992979)
Make sure that everyone else has the police report and investigation that you used to conclude that the officer was wrong.

If it is unable to contradict the numerous witness statements that Brown had his arms raised and appeared as if he was surrendering when he was shot; not sure anyone but his union will not agree that the officer was wrong.

Pants II 08-15-2014 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 992982)
If it is unable to contradict the numerous witness statements that Brown had his arms raised and appeared as if he was surrendering when he was shot; not sure anyone but his union will not agree that the officer was wrong.

If there was a betting line on those witnesses getting sudden amnesia while under oath it would probably be...

Remember +1000

I don't remember -200000000000000

Pants II 08-15-2014 12:26 PM

It's a good thing the State Police took over to not enforce any laws.

Well just on MSNBC protestors are on top of moving cars flashing gang signs.

I'm sure the insurance companies love seeing that.

Idiots. Appeasing dumb asses. Really no different than the Louisville mayor after the thugs ransacked downtown earlier this year.

Expect free pizza and movies. Country is beyond gone.

dellinger63 08-15-2014 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 992981)
One of the easiest stances to take -- and one that is meritless -- is to conclude how officers should have responded in a situation like this, especially when so little is actually known about the incident at this point.

Only if 'the easiest stance' is to make no conclusion or even more important judgment until all the facts are in and then do things like start midnight basketball leagues and pay gangbangers to form stop the violence programs that will secretly be used as drug dispensaries for heroin and cocaine.

It's worked so well to quell the violence in Chicago it should go national. ;)

Pants II 08-15-2014 12:39 PM

Liberal media darling and benefactor of blatant nepotism Ronan Farrow just said the kid was executed.

How, outside of nepotism, did this douche get a media job? He sounds like a fresh order of fajitas.

Danzig 08-15-2014 01:08 PM

http://www.vox.com/2014/8/13/5994305...l-force-murder

i have no idea how this will all shake out...but there are a couple things that stand out in the discussion.

one, the witnesses claim the policeman told the two men to get out of the street and onto the sidewalk-that's not what police tell robbery suspects.
two, a witness says that the cop 'tried to pull brown into his car'. that's crap, officers don't pull on suspects to bring them into their car when they are still behind the steering wheel.

also, as the article explains, if a cop feels people are in danger-than shooting a fleeing suspect could be justified-but was brown fleeing? i don't know.

my dad was involved in a scuffle with a car thief one time. the thief stabbed my dad in the hand with a screwdriver. he lost his grip on the screwdriver, and then went after my dads revolver.
dad got there first. he shot the guy, who lived.
at any rate, i hope they do a thorough investigation by independant groups-and that there is no rush to judgement by anyone.

Danzig 08-15-2014 01:11 PM

wow, here's an odd cop story for you.

glad the girl's ok!

http://news.msn.com/us/police-va-dep...er-crashed-car

kids, don't sneak out of and into houses.

Pants II 08-15-2014 02:26 PM

Surveillance footage...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHxXGvXQrno

Read that the poor child is 6'4" 295

How dare that store owner try to prevent him from stealing. Doesn't he know that kids great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather was a slave?

Danzig 08-15-2014 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 993027)
That horse left the barn days ago.

maybe by some.
for days it's all just been 'unarmed teen shot dead'. obviously there's more to it than that.

Danzig 08-15-2014 02:48 PM

and now i see this in an updated article:

Police Chief Thomas Jackson said the officer did not know the teen was a robbery suspect at the time of the shooting and stopped Michael Brown and a companion "because they were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic."


this is turning into a larger mess every moment. of course there's no telling now if this is a result of the press rushing to get stories out and leaving out details or what. because they certainly made it seem earlier that the cop was responding to a robbery, and now they're saying he wasn't.
was the press wrong, or the cops?

hi_im_god 08-15-2014 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 993040)
and now i see this in an updated article:

Police Chief Thomas Jackson said the officer did not know the teen was a robbery suspect at the time of the shooting and stopped Michael Brown and a companion "because they were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic."


this is turning into a larger mess every moment. of course there's no telling now if this is a result of the press rushing to get stories out and leaving out details or what. because they certainly made it seem earlier that the cop was responding to a robbery, and now they're saying he wasn't.
was the press wrong, or the cops?

It just doesn't matter. You're either on the New Black Panther team or you're a racist.

Pick a side.

Danzig 08-15-2014 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 993049)
It just doesn't matter. You're either on the New Black Panther team or you're a racist.

Pick a side.

;)

Pants II 08-15-2014 05:57 PM

Or you're a smarmy loser liberal that waits to make a smarmy post.

Liberal logic...

18 year old is murdered by a cop for no reason.

Try and counter that. That was the agenda on this story from day one.

You lose. Again and again and again.

Hey how are things in Iraq btw, libtard? Didn't your God say it was over a few years ago?

hi_im_god 08-15-2014 06:16 PM

Or you're RockHardPants. The most misunderstood hero in the history of the politics sub-forum.

Pants II 08-15-2014 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 993084)
Or you're RockHardPants. The most misunderstood hero in the history of the politics sub-forum.

The Purge is happening right now in Louisville, my hometown.

Take your jokes and shove them up your ass.

You no good appeasing piece of ****.

RockHardTen1985 08-16-2014 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 993084)
Or you're RockHardPants. The most misunderstood hero in the history of the politics sub-forum.

Leave me out of this. My opinion on everything is gold compared to you, bro.

RockHardTen1985 08-16-2014 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 993128)
The Purge is happening right now in Louisville, my hometown.

Take your jokes and shove them up your ass.

You no good appeasing piece of ****.


Is this stuff really happening?

Pants II 08-16-2014 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 993152)
Is this stuff really happening?

In a way it did. The state fair was practically empty last night. Two murders reported in the city. A pickle thief, a cat rapist, some woman beaten with chains...other than that a typical night in Louisville.

I did see the glorious state police switcharoo in Ferguson only worked for one night. SHOCKING!

dellinger63 08-16-2014 07:52 AM

Two killed 8 wounded in Chicago last night. Guess a dead 16-year old girl doesn't matter unless a cop shoots her. :wf


http://voices.suntimes.com/news/brea...riday-evening/

dellinger63 08-17-2014 10:03 AM

We all have seen the gentle giant's HS graduation picture. Here's one outside of school. One of those examples of a picture being worth a thousand words:



While there were reports of a single shooting last night in Ferguson, five have been killed and 28 wounded in Chicago and Rev. Jackson showed his colors abandoning Chicago for Ferguson MO.

Jackson isn't color blind, he's all about the green at the sake of African Americans sadly of whom he is falsely representing.

Pants II 08-17-2014 12:13 PM

That isn't him, dell.

Did you guys see the governor's press conference yesterday?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQebFkVQmqE

Pants II 08-18-2014 08:07 AM

National Guard on the way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0SEQdKIWiU

dellinger63 08-18-2014 10:19 AM

No one killed in Ferguson over the weekend though media wise you'd think the police are slaughtering people. WGN just broke away from their news to cover a press briefing in Ferguson about an autopsy of a death that occurred over a week ago.

Meanwhile Chi-Town was not so lucky this weekend though you'd never know it.

Quote:

Kardeon Glover was shot to death early Sunday in the Humboldt Park neighborhood.

Police responding to a call of a person shot in the 900 block of North Karlov Avenue found Glover shot in the head on the sidewalk about 1:15 a.m. Sunday, authorities said.

Glover, 26, of the 4100 block of West Grenshaw Avenue, died at Mount Sinai Hospital less than an hour later, according to the Cook County medical examiner’s office.

Nobody has been charged for the murder.
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Damian Rodriguez and 16-year-old Jason Seballos were killed in Logan Square shooting that left another man wounded Saturday night.

The three were inside a vehicle in the 2300 block of North Springfield Avenue when a gunman walked up and opened fire about 11:45 p.m. Saturday, police said.

After the shooting, the motorist attempted to speed away but crashed into several parked cars, police said.

Seballos, 16, of an unidentified home address, was shot in the face and back and died at Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center, authorities said. Rodriguez, 21, of the 2300 block of South Keeler Avenue, was shot in the head and also died at Illinois Masonic.

The third person in the vehicle, an 18-year-old man, was shot in the finger and treated at Norwegian-American Hospital, police said.

Nobody has been charged for the murders.
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A 16-year-old girl was killed in a drive-by shooting in the West Englewood neighborhood that also left a man wounded early Saturday.

Shaquise Buckner and the 20-year-old man were shot in the 7200 block of South Laflin Street about 12:50 a.m., authorities said.

Buckner, of the 1400 block of West 72nd Street, was shot in the head and died at the scene, according to the Cook County medical examiner’s office.

The man was shot in the back and was taken to Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn, police said.

Nobody has been charged for the murder.
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Walter Neely was fatally shot about a block from Chicago Police Headquarters Friday night in the Bronzeville neighborhood.

Somebody walked up to Neely in the 3400 block of South Indiana Avenue and shot him in the abdomen about 11:35 p.m., authorities said.

Neely, 25, died at Northwestern Memorial Hospital less than 30 minutes later, authorities said. His home address was not immediately available.

The shooting happened about one block east of Chicago Police Headquarters at 3510 S. Michigan Ave.

Nobody has been charged for the murder.

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James Sterling and Amy Holmes-Sterling were killed in what police described as a domestic shooting that left another person critically injured Sunday night in the Roseland neighborhood.

The three were shot in the 400 block of West 104th Street about 9:55 p.m. Sunday, police said.

James Sterling, 37, who lived on the block, and Amy Holmes-Sterling, 29, of the 300 block of East 53rd Street, each died at the scene, according to the Cook County medical examiner’s office.

A 26-year-old woman was also shot in the shoulder and taken in critical condition to Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn, police said.

The two women were related, according to police, who described the shooting as domestic related.

Area South detectives are investigating
Over 20 more wounded in shootings and nothing but crickets...........:wf

Rupert Pupkin 08-18-2014 11:55 PM

This whole case is absurd. You have a 6'4, 295 pound guy that commits a strong-arm robbery at a store. Then the police have a confrontation with him a few blocks away on an unrelated issue. They tell him to put his hands in the air. He refuses and they draw their guns. Then he charges towards them and they shoot him. So what's the big controversy?

As usual, all the early reports we got from the press were wrong. They claimed he was shot in the back and that turned out to be totally false. They claim he was fleeing. That turned out to be totally false. The protesters would never admit that they were wrong. They want to still believe their made-up version of the events, that a harmless, innocent black guy was shot in the back by the police. Why don't they just admit that they had the facts wrong and go home.

GenuineRisk 08-19-2014 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 993167)
Two killed 8 wounded in Chicago last night. Guess a dead 16-year old girl doesn't matter unless a cop shoots her. :wf


http://voices.suntimes.com/news/brea...riday-evening/

Well, Dell, seeing as how "preservation of life" is one of the duties listed under a cop's job description, yes, a cop killing an unarmed person is of greater concern to a society, as they are expected not to abuse the fact that they are armed by the state. But apparently jaywalking and selling loose cigarettes is an executable offense to some of them.

I'd add petty larceny to the list of executable offenses except that the cop who killed Brown didn't know he was a suspect in the cigar stealing. (cigar? cigarette? I've read both in the media)

GenuineRisk 08-19-2014 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 993988)
This whole case is absurd. You have a 6'4, 295 pound guy that commits a strong-arm robbery at a store. Then the police have a confrontation with him a few blocks away on an unrelated issue. They tell him to put his hands in the air. He refuses and they draw their guns. Then he charges towards them and they shoot him. So what's the big controversy?

As usual, all the early reports we got from the press were wrong. They claimed he was shot in the back and that turned out to be totally false. They claim he was fleeing. That turned out to be totally false. The protesters would never admit that they were wrong. They want to still believe their made-up version of the events, that a harmless, innocent black guy was shot in the back by the police. Why don't they just admit that they had the facts wrong and go home.

"They"? Where are you getting your facts from, Rupert? There was no "they."

Rupert Pupkin 08-19-2014 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 993992)
"They"? Where are you getting your facts from, Rupert? There was no "they."

I thought the officer had a partner in the car. That's not really relevant any way.

Where am I getting my info? Right here to name a few:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/18/us/mis...ing/index.html

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014...uson-shooting/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014...michael-brown/

jms62 08-19-2014 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 994000)
I thought the officer had a partner in the car. That's not really relevant any way.

Where am I getting my info? Right here to name a few:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/18/us/mis...ing/index.html

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014...uson-shooting/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014...michael-brown/


I am continually amazed at what people link to as Legitimate news. This goes for both the Bloods and Crips agenda. It's as if they think it is true just because it is posted on the Internet. I often seen the blaze come up on google searches but didnt go to it as I thought it may be a gay porn site.;)
The aristocracy has us right were it wants us fighting amongst ourselves while fanning the flames so we are too occupied to notice our pockets being picked. Now I must return to digging myself out of my Saratoga induced hole and figuring out how to close out a damn Daily Double.

OldDog 08-19-2014 07:42 AM

Is it too much to ask for people to let the justice system work, and if it appears not to, to then bring in the DOJ?


One thing is certain: this Riley fellow is clearly racist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV_95LpvjJk

jms62 08-19-2014 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 994010)
Is it too much to ask for people to let the justice system work, and if it appears not to, to then bring in the DOJ?


One thing is certain: this Riley fellow is clearly racist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV_95LpvjJk

You should know by now only white people can be racist.:rolleyes:

Pants II 08-19-2014 09:21 AM

I just find it amusing the Obama voter base is raising hell about the militarization of the police force when it's their Lord and Savior who has expanded NDAA.

I actually laugh at all of this going down because these people deserve what they get. So much blame to go around. Zero personal responsibility.

**** them and the liberals that ride their dicks on a daily basis.

GenuineRisk 08-19-2014 10:46 AM

http://gawker.com/racist-idiot-cop-i...boo-1623800160

Pants II 08-19-2014 12:24 PM

Officer Darren Wilson suffered an "Orbital Blowout Fracture to the Eye Socket"

Rupert Pupkin 08-19-2014 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 994039)
Officer Darren Wilson suffered an "Orbital Blowout Fracture to the Eye Socket"

Yes, here is the link:


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014...th-mike-brown/

Benny 08-19-2014 08:10 PM

http://www.inquisitr.com/1418488/fer...h-claim-video/

GenuineRisk 08-20-2014 05:13 AM

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinion...ompliance.html

Rupert Pupkin 08-20-2014 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 994092)

The problem is not the 6'4, 295 pound guy that committed the strong-arm robbery and then physically assaulted a police officer (punched the officer in the face and fractured his eye socket). The problem is the police. I see. :zz:

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that the police are perfect. I'm not saying there aren't some bad cops out there. But in this case, I haven't seen anything so far that would show that this police officer did anything wrong. I'm sure that won't stop Eric Holder from trying to prosecute the guy just to appease the black community.

There was another brilliant insight in that opinion article. The article says the problem is not the people rioting and looting. The problem is the police officers who are trying to stop the rioting and looting. Ok. Whatever you say.


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