a piece of history...when simulcasting became the new game in town, it didn't take long for the feds to shut down all the hoss bookies, because they were competition. They didn't arrest everybody, just told them all that they had a good run, but that run had ended, and they couldn't take action anymore. The bookies didn't like it, but had no choice. Don't forget, that payphones weren't even allowed to be used during racing at the track.\

95 % percent of locals have sights in costa rica. they pay $20 a head per client. settle up day is still the same. you can post funds, or bet on credit. They don't have to sit there answering phones or do anything. for the bettor it is the ultimate convenience...huge paying ML parlays, 2nd half lines instantly, cross sports betting. They give you the opportunity for value, like in the hosses.
just a quick example...monday night, woke up after the Steelers game started, there was one hockey game, so i take a small parlay on edmonton
+150, under 5 1/2 goals +105, and the Giants with Bumgarner on tuesday. laying only $88 to win $739. it seems more like betting hosses that way. Bet a little, win a lot. with the advent of money lines on almost every college game within reason, and every pro game, including 1st half lines, they have made it betor friendly. unlike hossracing where thet take 25% and 5% right off the top of big scores.

for thursday and sunday...the bears +220, san diego +7 1/2, baltimore +1...$78 to win $852.

its like spending $72 in the pick 4 for half a buck and it paying $3400 for a deuce

Here is a really good synopsis on the matter:

http://sports-law.blogspot.com/2014/...r-against.html

Its embarrassing people in US have to feel like criminals betting offshore or with a book. How great would it be to have sports books at Tracks and why does anyone care to stop it?

Update.. http://sports-law.blogspot.com/2014/...g-chances.html

Answer from Judge Shipp could come this afternoon.

David Purdum [ARCHIVE]

ESPN.com | October 24, 2014
A U.S. District Judge granted a temporary restraining order to the NCAA, NFL and other major professional sports leagues Friday, crushing a New Jersey racetrack's hopes of offering legal sports betting this weekend.

After a wild week of rapid-fire legal filings, Judge Michael Shipp ruled the sports leagues would suffer irreparable harm if thoroughbred track Monmouth Park began accepting sports bets Sunday as planned.

It's a deflating blow for New Jersey, which is trying desperately to help its ailing gaming industry. Four Atlantic City casinos have closed, and thousands of workers have been laid off.

New Jersey believes Las Vegas-style sports betting would provide a spark and has been battling the leagues for more than two years.

But this case still isn't over. More hearings in district court and the Third Circuit Court of Appeals are expected. Both courts have previously ruled against New Jersey's sports betting efforts.

Before it's over, the Department of Justice also could weigh in. For now, though, the NCAA, NFL, NBA, NHL and MLB have stopped bettors from legally wagering on their games in New Jersey.

The leagues filed suit Monday, asking for a permanent injunction and claiming New Jersey's latest sports betting legislation, the 2014 Sports Wagering Law, violates the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act of 1992 (PASPA). PASPA prohibits states from "authorizing, operating, advertising, promoting or licensing" sports betting in all but four states: Nevada, Delaware, Montana and Oregon.

You can buy any legislation you want in this country...

I find it hilarious ESPN would use "a devastating blow" when talking about anything NFL.

Mickey Mouse Club. The ruination of Merica.

No sports betting! NV only!
 

@AP: BREAKING: US judge nixes plan to allow sports betting at New Jersey casinos, tracks ; appeal expected.

Injunction now permanent.

http://www.covers.com/articles/artic...?theArt=395574

Gave this out on 10-21

I know you are happy about it.

It's beyond sad how much pleasure you seem to take in the denial of a scenario that would benefit a large group of people while having little or modest discernible impact on your obvious own self interest.

:tro::tro::tro:

Is this confirmed?

While I have great respect for you personally, and the fabulous job you do professionally, the highlighted part of your statement is terribly false. There are scores of folks in the state of Nevada whom would be both directly and indirectly impacted by national-legal sports wagering. For many of us, it would be a devastating blow to our livelihoods.

What valid reason is there for Nevada to have a monopoly on Sports betting? How hallow an argument that sports betting will cause irreparable harm to the Sports organizations that are being bet on. If a judge allows that argument than sports betting should be stripped from Nevada. Makes no sense whatsoever other than to point out the outright corruptness that goes on in our country masquerading as a legal system.

That's preposterous. You're suggesting that #1, an overwhelmingly enormous percentage of Nevada visitors are ONLY coming there to sports bet and #2, they are going to collectively stop coming to Nevada if able to bet in NJ, or Delaware, or wherever. Neither is true. Have Ontario and Quebec residents stopped coming because they can sports bet through their lotteries?

Monopolists are always for the sanctity of their monopoly.. I get it. You'd howl though if similar conditions existed that nullified your ability to open a restaurant somewhere you wanted.

:tro:

Also, once sports betting is legally accessible online (admittedly probably 10-15 years away but is coming), that rising tide will lift all boats and Nevada will easily recoup whatever minor losses it takes when its monopoly expires.

Who are these scores of people you speak of? What positions do they hold that would threaten their livelihood from sports wagering thousands of miles away.

Steve Stevens...lol

Legalized betting is going to happen, just a matter of time. Its nice to see racing trying to be at the forefront of that effort. They dont really have the juice it seems to make it happen though, the NBA is on board and I suppose when the NFL and MLB get on it will happen pretty quickly.

I am not so sure. Quite a lot of bribes er make that lobbying money trying to prevent that.

The biggest change is the states really have no choice but to raise revenue with other means, this seems like an easy one.

Why do they HAVE too raise revenue from sports wagering. Frankly its not a needle mover simply not enough revenue. That doesnt mean I dont want it or am pissed its not in NJ just the revenue portion is WAY over stated

Its a multi billion dollar industry, how could it not be substantial revenue for the states?

Because it simply isnt a needle mover. Will it help a little sure but its not going to be enough to make a significant difference. Again I would love to be at MP in a sports book betting sports and races, the tax money will help racing but dont think Moody's is placing GO's of NJ on credit watch with positive implications IF sports betting was legal in the state. Good for racing and certainly good for people wanting to bet but as a significant revenue producer...not really

Conducting a hearing again based on the motion of one of the parties to a lawsuit, petition, or criminal prosecution, usually by the court or agency which originally heard the matter. Rehearings are usually requested due to newly discovered evidence, an unfortunate and possibly unintended result of the original order, a change of circumstance, or a simple claim that the judge or agency was just wrong.

They asked for a rehearing it was granted it simply means the process is reopened. We will have sports betting in NJ ONLY when the Fed's in concert with the sports league allow it. Shame

I could never see how the Feds could say it's OK for NV to do this but not any other state. It seems to me like a Fed created monopoly. I would think every other state should have the same right that NV does.

The bottom line is that most states are going to be run on gambling. It's huge revenue and needed to support deficit budgets. Is it right, probably not.

Gambling has become a huge problem. Embezzlement has skyrocketed because of it. It's created a whole array of problems that Horse Racing never did. Horse Racing has been legal gambling in many states for many years and has not created the problems that casino gambling has.

However, I'm OK with Racing getting some of that pot.

NYT: Extensive online gambling feature (Will merge with DFS thread)
 

DFS done in the Silver State...

http://lasvegassun.com/news/2015/oct...y-fantasy-spo/

...or ONLY when enough money changes hands behind closed doors. whichever comes first.

He gloats.

One word to describe Nevada. Chutzpah. Embrace the Federal law that permits sports betting only in Vegas while ignoring the federal law that deems DFS as a game of skill and not gambling. And talk about biting the hand that feeds you DFS has brought in millions in revenue to casinios by holding live championship tournements there and untold millions in additional revenue by those DFS players who migrate to Vegas sportsbooks weekly to follow their teams. But in the no publcity is bad publicity dept, DFS had its biggest week ever last week.

All I really believe is its a matter of significant time till all states have William Hills on very corner like UK.

Chutzpah is a good thing....

;) I guess you are right about that

ITS JUST ALL ABOUT MONEY,MONEY,MONEY,MONEY,MONEY,MONEY AND.........MONEY!

it will get get done cause everybody loves money!

http://espn.go.com/chalk/story/_/id/...ionship-events

oh, please, ncaa. quit with the holier than thou bs. you make money off free players, supported by gambling dollars.
own it.

not illegal to gamble, illegal to take action ...right ?

No. These folk are misrepresenting themselves as not being gambling, when they are. And then the NCAA wants to pretend it's all about athletes and scholarships when its really about money coming in while not paying the players, but they make money off the players. And if its not gambling, why can't they air during the big games? Why is the NCAA OK taking their ad money in regular season, but not after?
Reminds me of jokes about ladies of the evening and money. Already known they're a prostitute, just a matter of price.