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I think 5/2 - 7/2 will be about what he goes off at. |
He's going to get the lead, which is obviously going to help a ton. I couldn't bet him at 3-1, but I think he'll be right around that price.
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I think his odds will be closer to Will Take Charge's than a lot of people think with Mucho Macho Man the favorite. |
Why baffert didnt put Shakin it up in the Big Cap? He won the Malibu and the Strub and the Big Cap is the finale in the Strub Series
He has great closing speed and could have been in the mix late. |
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5th (2:00) San Felipe S. (G2)
1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $300,000 1 Home Run Kitten Quinonez A 118 L 2 Unstoppable Colby Saez L 118 L 3 Rprettyboyfloyd Nakatani C S 118 L 4 California Chrome Espinoza V 118 L 5 Sawyer's Hill Garcia M 118 L 6 Bayern Stevens G L 118 L 7 Kristo Rosario J 118 L 8 Schoolofhardrocks Talamo J 118 FTL 9 Midnight Hawk Smith M E 120 L 10 Recanted Gutierrez Mario 118 L 6th (2:30) China Doll S. 1 Mile (Turf) | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $75,000 1 Anniversary Kitty Nakatani C S 117 L 2 Loan Savant Gutierrez Mario 117 L 3 Sushi Empire Espinoza V 122 L 4 Soresca (IRE) SutherlandKruse C 117 L 5 Screen Goddess Rosario J 117 L 6 Tiz Kissable Baze T C 117 L 7 Nashoba's Gold Talamo J 117 L 8 Diversy Harbor Stevens G L 117 L 9 Uzziel Blanc B 117 L 10 Sheza Smoke Show Saez L 117 L 11 On the Backstreets Bejarano R 117 L 12 Savings Account Smith M E 117 L 13 Full Ransom Desormeaux K J 122 L 7th (3:00) San Carlos S. (G2) 7 Furlongs | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $250,000 1 Sahara Sky Rosario J 120 L 2 Clubhouse Ride Baze T C 120 L 3 Zeewat Nakatani C S 118 L 4 Big Macher Saez L 118 L 5 Cyclometer Talamo J 118 L 6 Wild Dude Bejarano R 123 L 7 Ready for More Garcia M 118 L 8 Let's Get Crackin Delgadillo A 118 L 9 Midnight Transfer Espinoza V 118 L 10 Shakin It Up Smith M E 123 L 8th (3:30) Frank E. Kilroe Mile S. (G1) 1 Mile (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $350,000 1 Lochte Bocachica O 123 L 2 Regally Ready Smith M E 118 L 3 Optimizer Saez L 118 L 4 Suggestive Boy (ARG) Talamo J 118 L 5 Za Approval Rosario J 118 L 6 Winning Prize (ARG) Nakatani C S 118 L 7 Horizontalyspeakin Maldonado E 118 L 8 Tom's Tribute Stevens G L 118 L 9 Silentio Bejarano R 118 L 10 Lakerville Desormeaux K J 118 L 9th (4:00) Santa Anita H. (G1) 1 1/4 Miles | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $750,000 1 Will Take Charge Saez (2-1) L 123 2 Mucho Macho Man Stevens G L (9-5) 124 L 3 Blingo Gryder A T (8-1) 117 L 4 Imperative Desormeaux K J (12-1) 114 L 5 Rousing Sermon Bejarano R 114 (12-1) L 6 American Blend Talamo J 114 (20-1) L 7 Game On Dude Smith M E 122 (5-2) L 8 Hear the Ghost Rosario J 114 (20-1) L |
BRIS SAN FELIPE PP'S: www.brisnet.com/brisnet_promos/14SanFelipe.pdf
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Do they play a nice 1991 version of Grateful Dead's China Doll when the hosses come on the track for that race ? Now that would be cool.
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Also I find it a disservice that he and Santa Anita wait so long to post morning line odds, because if you want to prints PP's out early, the horses numbers are not listed, only post position. |
RPRettyboyFloyd was entered in a MSW as well over the weekend... good grief Denise, let the horse graduate before throwing him in with the big dogs.
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Bayern supposedly scratching out of the San Felipe Saturday with a bruised inside quarter according to Bob Ike.
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Bayern out of San Felipe!
Just saw this on Twitter
Bob Ike @bobike1 Just heard that Bayern will scratch from Saturday's San Felipe due to a bruised inside quarter. |
bob having a tough time right now...first indianapolis, now bayern.
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VERY HAPPY, I have Midnight Hawk in WInstar Fantasy Derby, and was very afraid of Bayern:D:D
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By the way,
I know I'm in the severe minority on this, but the competition in the Big Cap is likely to be tougher than the Dubai World Cup for Mucho Macho Man. If he loses Saturday his connections deserve to take crap for not shipping there. I'm at work so if this starts debate, gimme a couple hours to reply. |
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His connections deserve credit win or lose for keeping him home. |
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How the heck do you know if he'll handle the Meydan synth surface or not unless he tries? He'd be running against a bunch of turf horses probably trying the surface for the first time, and a few that have done well at Meydan, but against questionable competition. 4th place in the Dubai World Cup pays more than 1st place in the Big Cap. And the prestige that a Group 1 placing on synthetic would add to his stud value goes wayyy further than another win over the Santa Anita Dirt (unless that next win is in November). I totally get that he probably wouldn't run again until July or August, but that's plenty of time to get fit for the Breeders Cup. I'm also one that seriously won't rip MMM or his connections if they were to branch out and they failed. Because they at least would've took the risk to take on the best in the world. Same for Wise Dan if he were to try going to Dubai for a mile turf race and he failed. Because they would've tried. It's really cool that we get to see these 3 run in the Big Cap (and I'm excited to watch the race), but I still think Dubai is the better move. |
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I swear I'm not trolling.
But I totally get that I'm talking to a brick wall. Seriously, what does he have to prove at Santa Anita before November? He's beaten both of the main competitors in that race over that surface in the biggest race in North America (Kentucky Derby included). I love that these 3 are gonna race against each other on Saturday. How often do we get to see that? Big time horses either duck each other until the Breeders Cup (if they ever meet up) or they retire first. So it's awesome. But it makes no sense to me... especially with the decision for MMM to stay in training and not go to stud after winning the Classic last year- that he not go for the big $$$? A synthetic win or good placing in Dubai does way more for him than the Big Cap. Pat Cummings please join me on this lonely island lol |
Schoolofhardrocks is the unknown horse. He may pull the upset. David Hofmans is a sneaky trainer
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In the San Carlos, who is going with Big Macher on the front-end? If no one duels with him, I think he's classy enough to steal it.
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I guess I don't play Santa Anita enough. Can't seem to find this info -- does anyone know what races pk-4's and pk-6 will offer? Also, I know they are notoriously late on the morning lines but are they really still not out or am I blind?
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as for him having a boost to his stud resume with a win over synthetic (assuming he wins)...the move back to dirt in cali (and probably eventually all tracks again) completely belies any notion that synthetic ability is a bonus or that breeders will be looking for that when making a breeding decision. for years people decried the big cap losing prestige (and the oaklawn handicap as well) because people chased the money halfway around the world.....i can't understand why you feel so strongly that would be the right move for this horse, especially knowing the overall successes, or lack thereof, for american horses since the surface change there. competition is the key, and i'd imagine they are planning a campaign for horse of the year. a win here would be very significant for MMM. at dubai? not even close. as for the purse there-money won is one thing, graded wins another. was HOY the last two years the top money earner? |
Once again, he already has the biggest win he'll ever have over the SA surface. Last I checked, Keeneland, Arlington, Woodbine, GG, Ocala and some international tracks still use synthetic. If he does well over a synthetic surface, you could start thinking more internationally with the horse's stud potential than just as a son of Macho Uno that can only throw dirt winners.
You don't know unless you try... |
Lightning fast
got ashes with Ritvos sister on Wednesday. She says the big hoss is in fine fettle. He is right where he should be. After poor management of him at 3, they have figured out what is best. He loves it fast and hard and thats what he gets in Cali. He should never leave there. Dubai not on dirt....why would they even consider it.
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The Wise Dan analogy is a little strong. What I'm getting at, is you've already proven what you can do. Branch out. Expand. Take a risk. Try. I won't rip on the connections for failing if they try. A perfect example is African Story who is running tomorrow in Dubai. Last year, at a mile over synth he won everything. There was a synth mile race on Dubai World Cup race that he probably would've won with ease. But his connections decided to try the Dubai World Cup at a longer distance against some random American horse named Animal Kingdom. Didn't work out too well. But I give his connections credit for trying. So horses can ship in from all other points in the world to Dubai, and they sometimes handle it, sometimes don't. But at least they're sporting about it. I'm not just talking about Europeans that have nowhere else to go during the winter. I'm saying South American, Australian, Asia, etc. |
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