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Rupert Pupkin 10-05-2006 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
OJ should have gone to a rehab. But that's a completely different case.
So, answer this...if you're accused (see above), and you're not really an "enemy combatant"...do you still have to sit in a cell if you can't raise bond?
If you're accused of practically anything, you will have to sit in jail until trial if you don't have the money to post bail.

By the way, if you don't like the stuff going on right now then you can blame both parties. Nothing is going to change if a democrat becomes President. The Patriot Act and all that kind of stuff has bipartisan support. The most important thing to the mainstream of both parties is keeping the country safe.

99% of the criticism you hear about the Patriot Act is simply partisan rhetoric. If a democrat was President right now, there would be some republicans crying that the President is taking away our rights. For the most part, the only people that fall for this nonsense are the extremists in both parties.

ezrabrooks 10-05-2006 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Hey Rupert, leave me totally out of this...and good luck to you and those that you believe in.
I didn't resign and hide in a rehab so my lawyer could make excuses for me.
I didn't make a 100K "contribution" to the Repub party fund boss.
I didn't script any "news" stories for Fox.
I'm totally innocent. Nor am I responsible or accountable.
Though, I'm guessing that with all the spinning that's going on, somebody is.
Maybe more.
So, is the issue "age of consent"?
That's avoidance.
Blaming the "media" for reporting?
That's more avoidance.
Will answers be presented to the "real" questions be presented before the November elections?
I sure hope so, because I've always thought that the Republicans stood on "truth".
err...uh... How did we get into Iraq?
Oh! WMD, Regime change, democracy and "stable government"...
Keep believing. (notice the middle syllable).
DTS, you are almost giddy.. I hate to break your bubble, but nothing is going to change....Red will stay Red....and the bluebells will lose. The American Public will see through this...and in the end, the conservatives will stay in power. Live with it..

Ez

pgardn 10-05-2006 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ezrabrooks
DTS, you are almost giddy.. I hate to break your bubble, but nothing is going to change....Red will stay Red....and the bluebells will lose. The American Public will see through this...and in the end, the conservatives will stay in power. Live with it..

Ez
I think you may be in for a suprise.

ezrabrooks 10-05-2006 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by pgardn
I think you may be in for a suprise.
Trust me, it won't be the first time I have been surprised, but I really don't think so. The bad is overblown, but I really feel the electorate will see through all of this, not voting based on a knee jerk reaction.

You seem to be a sensible sort, so I will respect your opinion...unless you give Kinky a shot!

Ez

Danzig 10-05-2006 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Good one Danzig!
I never thought of that! You really think "outside the box"!!!!
It's the parents' fault. They should be made to answer.
I can't wait until they're cross examined.
"Why didn't you call the police?"
"It's all your fault for not doing so!"
"You parents don't care about your children, now, do you?"

So creative!

excuse me? what i said was had a law been broken, i would have called and i don't understand why no one did. why didn't they? had the first victims of this vile man called, the latter ones would not be victims, as he'd have been stopped long ago. i didn't say any parents were at fault here for what happened, i just don't understand why no one sought legal help. it's the same as the priests--why would you call a bishop if you thought your child was molested, but not the police? i think it's a valid question--altho i don't think your twisting of my words is valid. i don't quite get your point.

pgardn 10-05-2006 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ezrabrooks
Trust me, it won't be the first time I have been surprised, but I really don't think so. The bad is overblown, but I really feel the electorate will see through all of this, not voting based on a knee jerk reaction.

You seem to be a sensible sort, so I will respect your opinion...unless you give Kinky a shot!

Ez
If you think Rick Perry running the State of Texas again has anybody happy, even Republicans you got it wrong. Perry is running at about 32%. Kinky, Strayhorn, and the Democrat without a plan are all in the teens. That shows you how much Texas likes Perry. I will take anyone BUT Perry. So I will give Kinky a shot. It actually does not matter that much until jokes like Craddick and some other Republican idiots get the swift kick. Now if we go back to the Mark White Democrat days, I may leave the state. So many bad choices. And I really dont like being a cynic but this year is really bad in Texas. Again our best Governor since I have been alive was ANN Richards... Despite her bad taste with the silver foot in the mouth thing.

Kinky will get my vote. Desperation has set in.

Cajungator26 10-05-2006 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dalakhani
The state law does not differentiate between male and female. The law says that the consenting age is 16 IF the other adult is less than 24 years old and 18 if older. However, it is not illegal if the minor is MARRIED to the adult.
http://www.ageofconsent.com/florida.htm

dalakhani 10-05-2006 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Isnt that what i said?

ezrabrooks 10-06-2006 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by pgardn
If you think Rick Perry running the State of Texas again has anybody happy, even Republicans you got it wrong. Perry is running at about 32%. Kinky, Strayhorn, and the Democrat without a plan are all in the teens. That shows you how much Texas likes Perry. I will take anyone BUT Perry. So I will give Kinky a shot. It actually does not matter that much until jokes like Craddick and some other Republican idiots get the swift kick. Now if we go back to the Mark White Democrat days, I may leave the state. So many bad choices. And I really dont like being a cynic but this year is really bad in Texas. Again our best Governor since I have been alive was ANN Richards... Despite her bad taste with the silver foot in the mouth thing.

Kinky will get my vote. Desperation has set in.
I figured you were part of the jack booted education lobby. That message will not work, outside of your Union comrades..

Ez

Cajungator26 10-06-2006 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Isnt that what i said?
"However, for the sake of argument and clarification, if a person is less than 24 years old, they may enter into sexual contact with a person who is at least 16 years old."

I read somewhere recently that if the "minor" was a MALE, then the age was 16. Once I find that, I'll post that. I'm just trying to get this straight...

GenuineRisk 10-06-2006 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by pgardn
If you think Rick Perry running the State of Texas again has anybody happy, even Republicans you got it wrong. Perry is running at about 32%. Kinky, Strayhorn, and the Democrat without a plan are all in the teens. That shows you how much Texas likes Perry. I will take anyone BUT Perry. So I will give Kinky a shot. It actually does not matter that much until jokes like Craddick and some other Republican idiots get the swift kick. Now if we go back to the Mark White Democrat days, I may leave the state. So many bad choices. And I really dont like being a cynic but this year is really bad in Texas. Again our best Governor since I have been alive was ANN Richards... Despite her bad taste with the silver foot in the mouth thing.

Kinky will get my vote. Desperation has set in.
The candidate's last name is really Kinky? I thought you were making a joke the last time you posted about him. Holy cow. Talk about a guy who had better NEVER get himself involved in any sex scandals... I can just picture the headlines...

GenuineRisk 10-06-2006 11:41 AM
Wait; I just googled him. His first name is Kinky. Now I get it.

Well, hey, Minnesota voted in a wrestler...

BellamyRd. 10-06-2006 11:42 AM
Republicans need to take some responsibility for their actions
whenever the spotlight falls on them for their immortal conduct
they point at Chappaquiddick or Monicagate
I think Americans are smart enough to know now when they're being spun
and it really is insulting to their intelligence when the GOP contines to do it
the same GOP, who claims to be the "morally superior" party
now come across as the biggest hyocrites on the planet
you can smell a changing of the tide towards Democratic majority
the White House is ours in '08!

repent 10-06-2006 11:46 AM
so can I legally do a 17YO in the state of TX or not?

there is a high school close to my townhome and I run at their track sometimes.

Repent

SniperSB23 10-06-2006 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by repent
so can I legally do a 17YO in the state of TX or not?

there is a high school close to my townhome and I run at their track sometimes.

Repent
Only 17-19 year olds can do 17 year olds in Texas. Once you turn 20 you lose your legal right to do 17 year olds.

repent 10-06-2006 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Only 17-19 year olds can do 17 year olds in Texas. Once you turn 20 you lose your legal right to do 17 year olds.

thanks for the response.
at least I know.


Repent

Danzig 10-06-2006 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.
Republicans need to take some responsibility for their actions
whenever the spotlight falls on them for their immortal conduct
they point at Chappaquiddick or Monicagate
I think Americans are smart enough to know now when they're being spun
and it really is insulting to their intelligence when the GOP contines to do it
the same GOP, who claims to be the "morally superior" party
now come across as the biggest hyocrites on the planet
you can smell a changing of the tide towards Democratic majority
the White House is ours in '08!
lol
immortal conduct!!

and everyone needs to take responsibility, from ted kennedy to foley!!

Downthestretch55 10-06-2006 04:31 PM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06279/727825-153.stm

ezrabrooks 10-06-2006 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
Wait; I just googled him. His first name is Kinky. Now I get it.

Well, hey, Minnesota voted in a wrestler...

Yeah, that photo op with Jessie and Kinky...kinda tells the whole story. What an idiot..as well whoever backs the guy (Kinky).. Give me the Demo if that what is in store....but, if either Strayhorn (the fight'n grandma) and/or Kinky gathers any support..other than the whackos... I might have to move.

Ez

PS Kinky is backed by Imus (all the way from NY City!!)... What is the over/under before Wyatt is in some kind of trouble.. He is a friggen disaster waiting to evolve..

Downthestretch55 10-07-2006 01:07 PM
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1007-21.htm

pgardn 10-08-2006 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ezrabrooks
I figured you were part of the jack booted education lobby. That message will not work, outside of your Union comrades..

Ez
Unions?

You obviously know very little about Texas my friend. There will never be Teacher strikes in Texas. We will never be paid well. I know that. Our state is near the bottom of the 50 in pay scale. I dont give a rats a ss, I like my job.

No child left behind is holding back good students. Republican idea gone crazy. And the thing I really find appealling about the Republican Party is their basic theme of personal responsibility. But OMG did they miss the boat on this theme with Education in Texas. But I am lucky I get very good students. So I stay. God help the people who have kids that really need help. This idea is working against them. Personal responsibility, the core of the Republican party... what the hell happened?

Ez you need to read more before typing.You are playing in deep right field. Behind the fence.

Downthestretch55 10-08-2006 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by pgardn
Unions?

You obviously know very little about Texas my friend. There will never be Teacher strikes in Texas. We will never be paid well. I know that. Our state is near the bottom of the 50 in pay scale. I dont give a rats a ss, I like my job.

No child left behind is holding back good students. Republican idea gone crazy. And the thing I really find appealling about the Republican Party is their basic theme of personal responsibility. But OMG did they miss the boat on this theme with Education in Texas. But I am lucky I get very good students. So I stay. God help the people who have kids that really need help. This idea is working against them. Personal responsibility, the core of the Republican party... what the hell happened?

Ez you need to read more before typing.You are playing in deep right field. Behind the fence.
Pgardn,
There is really no need to bother with this one.
On the Amish thread, he claimed to read my mind and suggested I commit suicide.
Response to his pathetic posts only diminishes intelligent discourse.
btw...NCLB is another disaster courtesy of Dubbya...unless you've invested in McGraw-Hill (testing and reading texts). Does it help children learn? Hmmmm.

ezrabrooks 10-08-2006 04:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pgardn
Unions?

You obviously know very little about Texas my friend. There will never be Teacher strikes in Texas. We will never be paid well. I know that. Our state is near the bottom of the 50 in pay scale. I dont give a rats a ss, I like my job.

No child left behind is holding back good students. Republican idea gone crazy. And the thing I really find appealling about the Republican Party is their basic theme of personal responsibility. But OMG did they miss the boat on this theme with Education in Texas. But I am lucky I get very good students. So I stay. God help the people who have kids that really need help. This idea is working against them. Personal responsibility, the core of the Republican party... what the hell happened?

Ez you need to read more before typing.You are playing in deep right field. Behind the fence.
Man, don't tell me about Texas...been here most of my life. You may be underpaid..but, at least you state that is your choice. For every one of you that is underpaid, there are about five who are grossly overpaid...setting around, watching the clock and collecting those green checks. That's the problem with teachers as a whole...they have cashed those green checks all of there lives, and now think it is their god given right to be paid and do nothing.

As to "No Child Left Behind"...well, that is just your opinion. What ever is wrong with the school system in the State of Texas can be traced directly back to the teachers..

See, Kinky isn't the only one who doesn't believe in being politically correct.

ezrabrooks 10-08-2006 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Pgardn,
There is really no need to bother with this one.
On the Amish thread, he claimed to read my mind and suggested I commit suicide.
Response to his pathetic posts only diminishes intelligent discourse.
btw...NCLB is another disaster courtesy of Dubbya...unless you've invested in McGraw-Hill (testing and reading texts). Does it help children learn? Hmmmm.

You are an idiot... Never suggested you commit suicide. Read the post..I said "don't".. Also, don't flatter yourself, I have no reason to want to read your mind, and besides, it is so closed, nothing can get in. What do you want to do now, infect your East Coast views on us in the Southwest? No thank you.

skippy3481 10-08-2006 04:37 PM
NCLB is a crock of crap. I know of very few teachers who actually like it. Personally i think there are alot more good teachers then bad. In, any profession you are going to find people who suck at their job are lazy, but teachers aren't bad enough to deal with the crap they do.

Downthestretch55 10-08-2006 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ezrabrooks
Man, don't tell me about Texas...been here most of my life. You may be underpaid..but, at least you state that is your choice. For every one of you that is underpaid, there are about five who are grossly overpaid...setting around, watching the clock and collecting those green checks. That's the problem with teachers as a whole...they have cashed those green checks all of there lives, and now think it is their god given right to be paid and do nothing.

As to "No Child Left Behind"...well, that is just your opinion. What ever is wrong with the school system in the State of Texas can be traced directly back to the teachers..

See, Kinky isn't the only one who doesn't believe in being politically correct.
This takes the cake!
Is EZ's anger at teachers caused by envy of those that have an education?
HMMMM...
If you think education is expensive, consider the cost of ignorance.
EZ again proves it.

whorstman 10-09-2006 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
Not to mention that on Bill O'Reilly's show, they "mistakenly" listed Foley as a Democrat. After running it, they later "corrected" it by taking the graphic away entirely (i.e., not correcting it and properly listing him as a Republican). Rupert, I beg of you, please go somewhere, anywhere else for your news.

Icky, yes (the 1983 thing), but as Dalakhani said, not illegal then. And in many states, they clearly still think it's okay to have sex before 18 as long as you have a wedding ring-- check out the minimum marriage ages:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriageable_age

So my question, if a 40 year-old guy marries a 13-year old girl, but doesn't sleep with her until their married, is it still icky, even though it's legal?

(That's apropos of nothing; I'm just curious what y'all think)
That's funny:

Georgia: 18 generally, 15 with parental consent, 16 without parental consent if pregnant

Yeee - Hawwww!! By golly I'ma marry that gurl as soon as she has her sweet 16!!

Danzig 10-09-2006 08:28 PM
at least that way she may still have most of her teeth....

timmgirvan 10-10-2006 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Danzig188
at least that way she may still have most of her teeth....
'BAD' word picture here!

GenuineRisk 10-10-2006 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Danzig188
at least that way she may still have most of her teeth....
Hee hee hee. Though, I must say I get so annoyed all over again every time that post of mine is cited in a response-- I can't believe I typed "their" instead of "they're." Argh. And I like to think I speaka da pretty good English... guess not. :(

Cajungator26 10-10-2006 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
Hee hee hee. Though, I must say I get so annoyed all over again every time that post of mine is cited in a response-- I can't believe I typed "their" instead of "they're." Argh. And I like to think I speaka da pretty good English... guess not. :(
HILARIOUS. :D My biggest pet peeve is when people say (for example), "I seen her" instead of "I saw her." Drives me nuts! :eek:

GenuineRisk 10-10-2006 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
HILARIOUS. :D My biggest pet peeve is when people say (for example), "I seen her" instead of "I saw her." Drives me nuts! :eek:
Oh, good one! Others that make me crazy: "it's" vs. "its" and "lie" vs "lay." I won't even go into "less" vs. "fewer." Makes my eye twitch.

Downthestretch55 10-24-2006 07:37 PM
Back in the news...Hastert took 2 hours and 40 minutes...hmmm
Reynolds? A bit longer.

If the photo at the top of this page doesn't say it all...

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/24/wa...rtner=homepage

timmgirvan 10-24-2006 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Back in the news...Hastert took 2 hours and 40 minutes...hmmm
Reynolds? A bit longer.

If the photo at the top of this page doesn't say it all...

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/24/wa...rtner=homepage
DTS: I think it's appropriate for one to have legal counsel,don't you?

Downthestretch55 10-25-2006 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
DTS: I think it's appropriate for one to have legal counsel,don't you?
timm,
Of course one has the right to legal counsel. Did I say one didn't?
DTS

timmgirvan 10-25-2006 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
timm,
Of course one has the right to legal counsel. Did I say one didn't?
DTS
Well, you implied that Hastert's 'lawyered up' as if that automatically made the case against him. The 'drama' of the public courtroom bothers me,no matter who the subject may be!

Downthestretch55 10-25-2006 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Well, you implied that Hastert's 'lawyered up' as if that automatically made the case against him. The 'drama' of the public courtroom bothers me,no matter who the subject may be!
Timm,
If you took anything I said as an implication rather than what I actually said, that's not on me.
The reality is that I believe in the legal process.."liberty and justice for all".
If there has been a "cover-up", it will be found.
By the way..if you read the article I cited, you might note that Hastert's testimony did not happen in a "public courtroom".
It was behind closed doors.
I'm still investigating those that sit on that committee regarding their party affiliations.
DTS

timmgirvan 10-25-2006 03:38 PM
DTS: the photo you displayed was Hastert and lawyer coming from the deposition,correct? And then you write " if that picture doesn't say it all". What were YOU trying to say? The drama of the public courtroom was the picture of the "public courtroom" as being ''tried in the press". So..what were you trying to say?

Downthestretch55 10-25-2006 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
DTS: the photo you displayed was Hastert and lawyer coming from the deposition,correct? And then you write " if that picture doesn't say it all". What were YOU trying to say? The drama of the public courtroom was the picture of the "public courtroom" as being ''tried in the press". So..what were you trying to say?
Timm,
I should have used more specific words.
Try these...The "look" on Hastert's face says it all.
The "courtroom" was not open to the public, only those that serve on the "ethics committee", hence the photo by a media photographer OUTSIDE the room. The "public" had no access.
What do you want me to say?

Downthestretch55 10-25-2006 03:58 PM
Timm,
This article might clarify what I attempted to say. No, I did not have access to the Ethics Committee room. Nor, did the press.
Hence, I know not what was said.

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/...s_hastert.html


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