Its not worth playing, at all IMO. Flashback might be really good, and he might not be much and he might not be ready off the layoff, but that field is trash and I think he is like 80% likely to win that race. Seems like a huge waste of time and money trying to beat him in this spot. Waiting for BC races. You get 3 BC pick 3's. Thats enough for me.

Is that what I said?

I think shes still champ 3yr old filly, no she did not run at all. But Beholder did not have a real campaign, spotty. She has 1 huge win today, a huge second and that prep win that was IMO OK. Only Close Hatches could have took that honor away, and she ran well, but not good enough.

POS is the champ. Would be awful to see her not get it IMO

I could actually see them running POS back at Aqueduct THanksgiving weekend. They kept her in training for this, the track was a joke and she did not run 1 step. If shes OK, they could run her.

While I agree about the way it should be voted I think you are selling Beholder short who beat elders twice in grade 1 races, won the SA Oaks and was super game in the Ky Oaks. She did have a injury issue though so she should have to pay a price for that.

Pretty much.

No, I did not. I said that she had no chance to win the race on such a ridiculously biased race track before they even got into the gate, I never evaluated her run today.

You tried to mix up my words in your never ending trolling quest to take shots at me whenever you see an opening. Keep trying troll.

By the way, you still haven't answered the question of who did run a step from that far back today?

Golden Ticket, and he is not nearly as good as Princess of Sylmar.

Stop it. He chugged up for second. He never really kicked. Was inside also

That is laughable. You can come up with one horse that made up some ground late on the rail where everyone close to the pace but the winner collapsed out of 6 dirt races and you believe that it undermines my point?

You are trolling. Just admit it and move on.

Does this track make anyone want to use Diamond Bachlor in the Juvy? I thought being inside of Havana might land him on the lead.

The track is in the process of being sealed, then rolled and scraped.

You asked for a horse that closed, I gave it to you. Now you are saying a horse that closed but....

Princess of Sylmar was inside as well the entire race.

You think that the track was not speed biased today?

Anybody have the will pays for the 2 day DD?

Definitely, I just dont think POS ran a step, which is what you disputed.

Back to the same factually incorrect argument that didn't work the first time?

Remember, it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and and remove all doubt.

Princess ran away from a 2x champion. Beholder beat Authenticity.

Trust me, thinking that POS ran at all is a losing argument, but continue to blame the track, I am sure you will be in the majority.

Where did I say Princess of Sylmar ran a huge race? The point I made which you cannot grasp is that deciding the championship based upon this race considering the racetrack is not fair. Unless Princess of Sylmar was an incredible monster, she didn't stand a chance on that racetrack which was not suitable for championship races.

I didn't even have a penny on Princess of Sylmar. Frankly I thought it was sporting of them to even come here after such a long campaign and I thought the dynamics of the race and that the toll of the campaign were against her today.

The distinction is obvious, either you are a troll or not too bright. As each post you make goes by, I am becoming more and more convinced it is the latter.

You are losing your argument so you fall back to ad hominem attacks.

Where did I say POS should not be the champion, in fact think I said the opposite.

point dont bother..turn the page sat is a new day..

Last year would have been great to have the BC in New York

Oh wait there was a hurricane that whiped out everything ... No worries peoe would have come in droves from their flooded out and destroyed homes to watch horses run around a soup oval... Yeah man it's what I call fun

Los Angeles is not at risk of natural disasters?

We could have moved them to Lebanon, NH and had a conveyor belt, speed speed joke of a track....

why all this talk about the weather when thats about the last reason why its not been to NY?

I see you are back to trolling. I have posted about this many times, it does not necessarily have to be NY, but a real Championship should not keep going back to the same venue IMO. Allowing the Championship across the county helps promote the sport. As far as NY, it is the best racing in the U.S. and should host the Championships from time to time. Even the NFL has recognized the value of having a Championship in NY.

What are the current problems with it being in NY?

the Princess won the Alabama which is the race they wanted to win. To think she would run at all , the way the track was playing, is a fine example of redboarding.

This may be surprising but I don't read all your posts.

I think it should be on a rotation between the three main circuits, maybe more often at CD which I think is a great venue having been to a few BC's there.

I see your just being the same butthole as always. I have no problem with the BC being somewhere where the weather could be crap for one of the biggest days in racing. Suck it up buttercup you can't beat Cali weather and today those two brood mares couldn't beat Beholder. Oh and I was born and raised on the east coast so here's some for ya... Go f@ck yourself you sorry pr@ck.

Nothing like an angry rant when one can't form a cogent argument in response. I appreciate your opinion of me. I will file it accordingly in my how much I care department.

What is the argument? Weather could suck on BC like the crap that Monmouth hosted... Or we could be where the chances of sunshine is 99 percent.
Beholder crushed the best they had to offer today. It was sunny and beautiful and not a cloud in the sky over the Sierra Madres. She did something today no other filly has done. I have no opinion of you other than what your posts lend you to be.

Which argument are you referring to? The argument where you tried to exploit the tragedy that challenged many human beings fortitude in support of an absurd argument or that the track carried speed like a merry go-round today?

Drinking and posting are a dangerous combination.

Exploit the tragedy that challenged many human beings fortitude? Maybe you should head to the shore today and help those people out. Or you can do the Liberal thing and flap your lips while expecting others to help the needy.
Maybe you could have taken the money you blew yesterday and the money that you'll blow today and donate it to the hurricane relief fund.
Now this is the "point" where you act like a juvenile and say things like "Go f@ck yourself you sorry pr@ck." Things you would never be man enough to say to someone in person you punk.

Geez Rand...has it been 8 years already? Where does the time go? I remember that like it was yesterday.