He's not thinking of entering.. he's pre-entered. And I'd say that Romans wants to run him because he thinks he can be competitive. And recognize that owner B. Wayne Hughes and the Spendthrift team likely have a say in in the decision. There are 5 other horses in the Juvy with 2 starts -- or less when it comes to Tap It Rich -- so he's not giving away all that much experience. He has run 2 two turn races which only 4 other horses can say and has a higher last race Beyer than half the field. He's no more misplaced in the Juvenile than anyone else.

You were doing OK until this.

He's WAY slow, and surely more misplaced than Havana. I won't argue with you if you said he isn't substantially worse than much of the field.

thanks for the info Steve, i guess we will see how it shakes out. i agree BTW, he has not run very fast at this point but i was thinking/hoping that due to breeding he may get better as he gets older. The reason i like the horse is b/c i was impressed with his win 1st time out going route of ground stuck on the rail and fought thru other horses to win. i know the race came back slow and he sure didn't really open any eyes up the other day at Keen. thats why i was hoping the would just sit on him till early next year.

Jay Privman ‏@DRFPrivman: Mike Smith rides Euro 2yo Outstrip in BC Juv Turf, per agent Brad Pegram.

Kiaran McLaughlin ‏@KPMRacingStable: In the BC Juvenile Fillies Turf Sky Painter will be ridden by Luis Saez and Dancing House will be ridden by Mike Smith.

I guess I can live with this.

David Grening ‏@DRFGrening: Owner Kin Hui on decision to run Diamond Bachelor in BC Juvenile on dirt and not turf: "Nothing to lose. We'd like to see how good he is"

I like it. Gutsy.

Got Shades (Danny Pish/Gary Stevens) & Home School (Doug O'Neill/Mario Gutierrez) BOTH into Juv. Turf after decisions/defections this morning..

Secret Compass is the filly to beat in the Juvenile Fillies. In the Chandelier Stakes which she won, it was 18 lengths from the third place finisher to fourth, a sign of a quality race. She has the tactical speed to not fall too far off the pace.

She will have first run and win.

It could also be the sign of a poor race and in looking at the runners in there, I'm thinking poor race instead of quality.

Didn't She's a Tiger run the better race in the Chandelier?

I'm not sure if Scandalous Act will be sent, and Artemis Agrotera owns a lot of speed too (although she gets a more patient jockey in Lezcano).

Yes, She's a Tiger ran the better race, but I'm just worried she'll get caught in a duel. If she does, Secret Compass will have first run.

Then again, with jockeys as chicken as they are today, maybe this scenario won't happen and they will let She's a Tiger coast to victory. I may use both She's a Tiger and Secret Compass.

My Conquestadory confirmed for JF Turf, per Caton Bredar on HRTV this morning.

She has to move way up to beat the exacta horses from the Frizette.

Numbers wise yes. But the Frizette fillies also have to negotiate two turns for the first time. I see that Sweet Reason worked a slow mile around two turns this morning just to get a feel of the added lead changing going two turns..

I also think horses that prepped at Santa Anita tend to fare well in the dirt Juvenile Fillies when it's held at Santa Anita, like Beholder and Halfbridled. Maybe you have a point though.

COMPANY LINES: Both Culprit (MSW, 1m, dirt, 80 Beyer) and Tiger Bourbon (ALW/N2L, 8.5f-T, 70 Beyer) won Sunday at Churchill exiting also-ran efforts in the G3 Bourbon which has Poker Player, Bashart and Bon Accord in the J-Turf.. Also note that Ride On Curlin (3rd behind Havana & Honor Code in the Champagne) was a non-threatening 3rd as the even money favorite in the Street Sense..

At Belmont, note Mansion House 3rd in U.S. debut in Awad. Was 3rd behind Wilshire Boulevard in G3 at Curragh last.

Ride on Curlin's performance likely upgrades Havana's Champagne win, as he was the lone speed to survive, while Honor Code and Ride on Curlin came from last and second to last. As for Mansion House, there are very few riders that would have lost with him yesterday...not that a win would have flattered Wilshire Boulevard. I also think it may be a bit of an apples and oranges comparison.

Culprit's win is also an indictment of the atrocity that was the Iroquois, as 3rd place finisher Tapiture was a dull 3rd yesterday in that MSW race.

This race is just Scandalous

Pletcher horses got one bad post after another.

FRI 7th (2:25) Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf (G1)

1 Mile (Turf) | Open | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 1 All Cash Saez L Lukas D Wayne 122 30-1
2 2 Giovanni Boldini Moore R L O'Brien Aidan P 122 7-2
3 3 Got Shades Stevens G L Pish Danny 122 30-1
4 4 Outstrip (GB) Smith M E Appleby Charles 122 4-1
5 5 Bobby's Kitten Castellano J J Brown Chad C 122 5-2
6 6 Home School (IRE) Bejarano R O'Neill Doug 122 Blk-On 30-1
7 7 Aotearoa Nakatani C S Powell Leonard 122 12-1
8 8 Bon Accord Rosario J Sano Antonio 122 20-1
9 9 Wilshire Boulevard (IRE) Buick W T O'Brien Aidan P 122 8-1
10 10 Ontology Gutierrez Mario Callaghan Simon 122 30-1
11 11 Poker Player Hill C Catalano Wayne M 122 12-1
12 12 Shamshon (IRE) Hughes R Hannon Richard 122 12-1
13 13 Bashart Velazquez J R Pletcher Todd A 122 6-1

Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta Pick 3 (Races 7-8-9) / Daily Double Pick 4 (Races 7-8-9-10)



FRI 9th (3:50) Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies Turf (G1)

1 Mile (Turf) | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 1 Nesso Garcia M Belvoir Vann 122 20-1
2 2 Al Thakhira (GB) Moore R L Botti Marco 122 6-1
3 3 Colonel Joan Talamo J Harty Eoin 122 20-1
4 4 Kitten Kaboodle Velazquez J R Brown Chad C 122 12-1
5 5 Granny Mc's Kitten Castellano J J Brown Chad C 122 20-1
6 6 Vorda (FR) Peslier O Sogorb Philippe 122 4-1
7 7 Street Sailing Garcia Alan Mettee Richard C 122 15-1
8 8 Chriselliam (IRE) Hughes R Hills Charles 122 6-1
9 9 Dancing House Smith M E McLaughlin Kiaran P 122 20-1
10 10 Clenor (IRE) Bejarano R O'Neill Doug 122 8-1
11 11 Ready to Act Rosario J Brown Chad C 122 8-1
12 12 Testa Rossi (FR) Lezcano J Brown Chad C 122 8-1
13 13 Sky Painter Saez L McLaughlin Kiaran P 122 15-1
14 14 My Conquestadory Da Silva E R Casse Mark 122 9-2

Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta Pick 3 (Races 9-10-11) / Daily Double Super High Five



SAT 4th (12:05) Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies (G1)

1 1/16 Miles | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $2,000,000

1 1 Artemis Agrotera Lezcano J Hushion Michael E 122 3-1
2 2 Rosalind Rosario J McPeek Kenneth G 122 8-1
3 3 Designer Legs Talamo J Stewart Dallas 122 30-1
4 4 Secret Compass Velazquez J R Baffert Bob 122 6-1
5 5 Ria Antonia Castellano J J Englehart Jeremiah C 122 Blk-On 30-1
6 6 Concave Gutierrez Mario O'Neill Doug 122 15-1
7 7 Untapable Napravnik R Asmussen Steven M 122 5-1
8 8 Scandalous Act Nunez E O O'Connell Kathleen 122 8-1
9 9 Sweet Reason Solis A Gyarmati Leah 122 5-2
10 10 She's a Tiger Stevens G L Bonde Jeff 122 6-1

Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta Pick 3 (Races 4-5-6) / Daily Double Pick 4 (Races 4-5-6-7)



SAT 8th (2:43) Breeders' Cup Juvenile (G1)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $2,000,000

1 1 Smarty's Echo Baird E T Smith Anne P 122 20-1
2 2 Dance With Fate Bejarano R Eurton Peter 122 8-1
3 3 Mexikoma Garcia Alan Mettee Richard C 122 12-1
4 4 New Year's Day Garcia M Baffert Bob 122 8-1
5 5 Bond Holder Gutierrez Mario O'Neill Doug 122 8-1
6 6 Tap It Rich Smith M E Baffert Bob 122 6-1
7 7 Cleburne Nakatani C S Romans Dale 122 12-1
8 8 Conquest Titan Da Silva E R Casse Mark 122 30-1
9 9 Rum Point Maldonado E O'Neill Doug 122 30-1
10 10 We Miss Artie Castellano J J Pletcher Todd A 122 8-1
11 11 Medal Count Albarado R J Romans Dale 122 20-1
12 12 Diamond Bachelor Leparoux J R Biancone Patrick L 122 12-1
13 13 Havana Velazquez J R Pletcher Todd A 122 5-2
14 14 Strong Mandate Rosario J Lukas D Wayne 122 6-1

Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta Pick 3 (Races 8-9-10) / Daily Double

Using Mexikoma as a long shot with Tap It Rich and Havana, who although drew poorly, does seem to be one of the most talented in the field.

Too bad so many of the horses in the Juvie have mostly synthetic form.

I think this argument is now moot.

Will you have picks or opinions in writing anywhere?

I will PM them to you..They are a secret

What are people's thoughts on Clenor? Her last two races obviously make her appealing but is the removal of lasix more worrisome with her because she didn't run as well without it in her first three starts? Or has her improvement been more about the stretchout to 8f after going to California?
Obviously there's no way to know for sure, but I am curious if anyone has any thoughts.

The fields in CA are weak. I don't trust Clenor at all.

I hate drawing outside, but I think she's good. She was very unlucky in her last two races before coming over and has shown some talent since. It's a wide open field, but she's going to be on my tickets.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...th-bucked-shin

Cleburne's out of the Juvenile with a bucked shin.

I thought I covered that last night.

Great ride and run by the Euro....My Conquest, not so much yet again. Off the board with a good trip from a bad post

I actually thought she ran big all things considered.

I agree. Winner was much the best....Built in excuse from the 14 but that wasn't a terrible trip.

What are you talking about? I saw nothing where you or anybody else mentioned it on a thread on this board. Skimmed it again to make sure. Did a search to make sure I wasn't losing it.