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NTamm1215 10-21-2013 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 950054)
Rosario gets Flat Out back..

And Flat Out gets Alvarado off his back.

Alan07 10-21-2013 09:45 AM

Last Gunfighter pre-entered in Classic, per David Grening on twitter. Castellano rides.

Sightseek 10-21-2013 10:15 AM

Well this sucks -- I just saw the television schedule for the entire BC and the only time it will be on NBC, and not NBC Sports Network, is for the Classic.

Wouldn't it make sense for the BC to also stream it on their website?? I assume I'll be able to see it on DRF Bets, but seeing the televised product would be nice.

alysheba4 10-21-2013 02:46 PM

Love M.M.M. over Ron......

freddymo 10-21-2013 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 950066)
Well this sucks -- I just saw the television schedule for the entire BC and the only time it will be on NBC, and not NBC Sports Network, is for the Classic.

Wouldn't it make sense for the BC to also stream it on their website?? I assume I'll be able to see it on DRF Bets, but seeing the televised product would be nice.

NBC Sports Network is good...What are they charging 6 bucks a month to subscribe?

tanner12oz 10-21-2013 08:12 PM

Will tvg or hrtv have a signal?

tanner12oz 10-21-2013 08:13 PM

Lots of speed here right?

Kasept 10-22-2013 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tanner12oz (Post 950117)
Will tvg or hrtv have a signal?

HRTV's studio is at Santa Anita and they provide the best lead up coverage to Cup. Last year they made a deal with BC to broadcast everything live -- except the Classic which is only on NBC -- and I would expect the same arrangement this year. The HRTV feed is also the simulcast signal.

Kasept 10-22-2013 05:37 AM

GARY YOUNG'S CLOCKER CLS-DIS NOTES:


C-MUCHO MACHO MAN (10/19) 5 furlongs in 1:02.1, splits 24.4, 49 and then galloped out in 1.16: He trained good for first race here, the Awesome Again, and won. But in this work he was leaning on his right rein a little and this work was just okay.


C-PAYNTER (10/21) 5 furlongs in 1.01.2: Worked in fog and looked average in company with Den’s Legacy.


D-AUTHENTICTY (10/19) 4 furlongs in 47.1, splits included 13.3 and a gallop out in 1.00.1: She worked unbelievable. Followed up last week’s great work with another one this week. Is she as good as the others in Distaff like Royal Delta, Beholder and Princess of Sylmar? Probably not. But this is the clocker’s quandary as she’s training as good as a filly can train. She easily outworked Juvenile Fillies hopeful We Miss Artie; make no mistake, she was terrific.

blackthroatedwind 10-22-2013 06:48 AM

I thought Authenticity had a chance, but shouldn't she lap We Miss Artie ( who despite the name is a colt.....Miss as in we MISS seeing someone )?

South Beach Luv 10-22-2013 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 950158)
I thought Authenticity had a chance, but shouldn't she lap We Miss Artie ( who despite the name is a colt.....Miss as in we MISS seeing someone )?

I know the name is for his sire but at first I thought a Stern fan named him.

Kasept 10-22-2013 01:15 PM

Breeders' Cup Classic, $5 million, 1 1/4 miles

1- Game On Dude (Bob Baffert/Mike Smith)
2- Ron the Greek (Bill Mott/Jose Lezcano)
3- Fort Larned (Ian Wilkes/Brian Hernandez) -- 2012
4- Mucho Macho Man (Kathy Ritvo/Gary Stevens)
5- Palace Malice (Todd Pletcher/John Velazquez)
6- Will Take Charge (D. Wayne Lukas/Luis Saez)
7- Flat Out (Bill Mott/Joel Rosario)
8- Paynter (Bob Baffert/Martin Garcia)
9- Moreno (Eric Guillot/Jose Ortiz)
10- Graydar (Todd Pletcher/Edgar Prado) -- Running in Dirt Mile
11- Last Gunfighter (Chad Brown/Javier Castellano)
12- Declaration of War (Aidan O'Brien/Joseph O'Brien)
13- Planteur-IRE (Marco Botti/Olivier Peslier)



Breeders' Cup Distaff, $2 million, 1 1/8 miles, fillies and mares

1- Royal Delta (Bill Mott/Mike Smith) -- 2012
2- Princess of Sylmar (Todd Pletcher/Javier Castellano)
3- Beholder (Richard Mandella/Gary Stevens) -- 2012 Juvenile Fillies
4- Close Hatches (Bill Mott/TBD)
5- Authenticity (Todd Pletcher/John Velazquez)
6- Street Girl (Manuel Azpurua/Angel Castillo) -- F&M Sprint

letswastemoney 10-22-2013 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 950154)
GARY YOUNG'S CLOCKER CLS-DIS NOTES:



D-AUTHENTICTY (10/19) 4 furlongs in 47.1, splits included 13.3 and a gallop out in 1.00.1: She worked unbelievable. Followed up last week’s great work with another one this week. Is she as good as the others in Distaff like Royal Delta, Beholder and Princess of Sylmar? Probably not. But this is the clocker’s quandary as she’s training as good as a filly can train. She easily outworked Juvenile Fillies hopeful We Miss Artie; make no mistake, she was terrific.

I also don't think this is a big deal. How good can an Artie Schiller colt be on dirt?

NTamm1215 10-22-2013 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by South Beach Luv (Post 950164)
I know the name is for his sire but at first I thought a Stern fan named him.

He's actually named for a friend of Ramsey's named Artie who died a few years ago. He said it on HRTV after he broke his maiden.

Kasept 10-22-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney (Post 950193)
I also don't think this is a big deal. How good can an Artie Schiller colt be on dirt?

That Artie Schiller colt was good enough to have a best of 70 bullet at Saratoga earlier this summer and the 5th best of 65 in the work Saturday.

tywizard 10-24-2013 12:57 PM

Declaration of War - Off for two months and no posted works since Feb according to posted PPs...Is this typical from Euros or are the works just not listed like they are here? Thanks in advance...

Scav 10-24-2013 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tywizard (Post 950487)
Declaration of War - Off for two months and no posted works since Feb according to posted PPs...Is this typical from Euros or are the works just not listed like they are here? Thanks in advance...

I don't think they have to post actual works over there and/or they show up in some sort of program, because they are all trained at farms, not at the actual tracks.

Kasept 10-26-2013 07:36 AM

David Grening ‏@DRFGrening: Change of plans for Graydar. He is now going in BC Dirt Mile NOT BC Classic . He just worked 1-2 in 49.60 with Vitoria Olimpica.

zippyneedsawin 10-26-2013 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 950813)
David Grening ‏@DRFGrening: Change of plans for Graydar. He is now going in BC Dirt Mile NOT BC Classic . He just worked 1-2 in 49.60 with Vitoria Olimpica.

Good call, that's where he belongs.

Revidere 10-26-2013 11:31 AM

Royal Delta put in a nice half mile breeze at Belmont this morning.

4f in 46.52.

This makes her 3 week work tab off the Beldame:

10/12: 4 furlongs 46:50
10/19: 5 furlongs 59:69
10/26: 4 furlongs 46.52

All bullets.

I'd say she's sharp. Especially in consideration of her works prior to the Beldame

9/23: 4F 47.88 7/70
9/16: 5F 1:02.90 9/18
9/6: 4F 48.43 5/22

Does this lend credence to Mott stating she was not fully cranked up for the Beldame?

ADJMK 10-27-2013 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Revidere (Post 950860)
Royal Delta put in a nice half mile breeze at Belmont this morning.

4f in 46.52.

This makes her 3 week work tab off the Beldame:

10/12: 4 furlongs 46:50
10/19: 5 furlongs 59:69
10/26: 4 furlongs 46.52

All bullets.

I'd say she's sharp. Especially in consideration of her works prior to the Beldame

9/23: 4F 47.88 7/70
9/16: 5F 1:02.90 9/18
9/6: 4F 48.43 5/22

Does this lend credence to Mott stating she was not fully cranked up for the Beldame?

She may be too cranked up to take back. With all the talk about Beholder loose on the lead she may never see it. Remember Royal Delta cut out fractions of 22.3. , 45.4 , 1.09.4 last year. Beholder has never been those fractions routing. Even with only a 6 horse field don't think we are seeing a slow pace in here.

Sightseek 10-28-2013 05:12 PM

A lot of people obsessed with how Beholder is looking right now...

FATPIANO 10-28-2013 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 951271)
A lot of people obsessed with how Beholder is looking right now...

:)

Kasept 10-29-2013 06:21 AM

SAT 12th (5:35) Breeders' Cup Classic (G1)

1 1/4 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $5,000,000

1 1 Last Gunfighter Castellano J J Brown Chad C 126 L 20-1
2 2 Paynter Garcia M Baffert Bob 126 L 12-1
3 3 Planteur (IRE) Moore R L Botti Marco 126 FTL 20-1
4 4 Moreno Talamo J Guillot Eric 122 L 15-1
5 5 Declaration of War O'Brien J P O'Brien Aidan P 126 FTL 10-1
6 6 Mucho Macho Man Stevens G L Ritvo Kathy 126 L 5-1
7 7 Fort Larned Hernandez B J Jr Wilkes Ian R 126 L 6-1
8 8 Palace Malice Velazquez J R Pletcher Todd A 122 L 10-1
9 9 Game On Dude Smith M E Baffert Bob 126 L 8-5
10 10 Will Take Charge Saez L Lukas D Wayne 122 L 12-1
11 11 Ron the Greek Lezcano J Mott William I 126 L 8-1
12 12 Flat Out Rosario J Mott William I 126 L 12-1

Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta Super High Five



FRI 10th (4:35) Breeders' Cup Distaff (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $2,000,000

1 1 Street Girl Castillo A Azpurua Manuel J 121 L 30-1
2 2 Authenticity Velazquez J R Pletcher Todd A 124 L 8-1
3 3 Close Hatches Rosario J Mott William I 121 L 6-1
4 4 Royal Delta Smith M E Mott William I 124 8-5
5 5 Beholder Stevens G L Mandella Richard 121 L 5-2
6 6 Princess of Sylmar Castellano J J Pletcher Todd A 121 L 9-5

Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta Special Daily Double

TouchOfGrey 10-31-2013 10:37 AM

According to a tweet by Jennie Rees, Ron the Greek is out of the Classic with a quarter crack; Bill Mott confirms.

RockHardTen1985 10-31-2013 06:44 PM

I like this horse more and more everyday.... Just the mention that hes better then the Giant One is enough for me.

http://www.racingpost.com/news/live....976&category=0

Danzig 10-31-2013 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 951698)
I like this horse more and more everyday.... Just the mention that hes better then the Giant One is enough for me.

http://www.racingpost.com/news/live....976&category=0

one work that they think was better than GC's, and you take that to mean he's the better horse?!

:zz:

RockHardTen1985 10-31-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 951709)
one work that they think was better than GC's, and you take that to mean he's the better horse?!

:zz:

Since you seem to have a comment about everything, without really commenting on anything, show me where I said he is better? Please show me this..... Its a rare talent IMO to be able to say so much, but never really say anything productive, and you are strong at this all over this place.


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