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JimmyEllis 09-28-2013 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 947058)
I honestly don't know what to do at this point. My frustration has reached a new level while my account goes into the $hitter.

Why do people think Lezcano is a great rider?

I've been wondering the same thing for years. I just don't get it.

Meantime, Boulanger runs out of ground, costing me a $92 exacta. Bad ride, after watching the replay. If he just stays outside, he's easily 2nd.

herkhorse 09-28-2013 02:54 PM

Fuc it I'll try SA

pick 5

4-9-12/6-7-9/6-7/4-8-11/1-6-8

casp0555 09-28-2013 02:57 PM

Bel 7
Pk 4 .50
3,5,8
1,3
2,4
2,6,7,8
$24

pointman 09-28-2013 03:06 PM

Bel 7

$1-$120
7- 2,3,4,5,8
8- 1,3,5
9- 1,2,3,4
10- 6,8

$20W 3
$20DD 3,8/1

herkhorse 09-28-2013 03:07 PM

:wf

Race #7 09/28/2013
Belmont
$0.5 Pick-4
# 1,5,8
WT # 1,2,3,4
WT # 2,3
WT # 2,3,6,8
$48.00

jms62 09-28-2013 03:09 PM

Bel 7

$10 ex box 2,7

P4 2,4,7,8/1,3/1,2/1,3,6,8
p4 2,,5,7/1,2,3,6/All/8
p4

JimmyEllis 09-28-2013 03:14 PM

Woodbine race 8

$40 ex 1/2,3,5

$6 tri 1,3/1,2,3,5/1,2,3,5

jms62 09-28-2013 03:16 PM

Story of my ****ing meet:zz::zz: how does he lose that race.

pointman 09-28-2013 03:19 PM

This should be easy, no way the 8 comes down, Justin Phillip got beat fair and square.

jms62 09-28-2013 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 947077)
This should be easy, no way the 8 comes down, Justin Phillip got beat fair and square.

Yup Johhn V should concentrate on finishing the race he cost him the race.

JimmyEllis 09-28-2013 03:21 PM

He got herded just before the wire, Point. That's what got him beat. But they were both mixing it up and I could see where they keep the 8 up

pointman 09-28-2013 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyEllis (Post 947080)
He got herded just before the wire, Point. That's what got him beat. But they were both mixing it up and I could see where they keep the 8 up

I didn't think the slight bump made much of a difference and agree that they were mixing it up, agree the call is right.

jms62 09-28-2013 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 947082)
I didn't think the slight bump made much of a difference and agree that they were mixing it up, agree the call is right.

He would have had a case if he didnt bump first.

JimmyEllis 09-28-2013 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 947082)
I didn't think the slight bump made much of a difference and agree that they were mixing it up, agree the call is right.

We disagree. I think that horses just don't want to pass when they get bumped or carried out. They just can't stride out as fully as they would otherwise. But this bad news for JV. A couple of years ago he was the best finisher in NY and one of the best around. Now, he's behind Rosario and Castellano.

JimmyEllis 09-28-2013 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyEllis (Post 947074)
Woodbine race 8

$40 ex 1/2,3,5

$6 tri 1,3/1,2,3,5/1,2,3,5

$126

I'm laughing at myself

pointman 09-28-2013 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyEllis (Post 947086)
We disagree. I think that horses just don't want to pass when they get bumped or carried out. They just can't stride out as fully as they would otherwise.

I agree with you 100%. As you know I am the first person to go nuts on herding even when the drift out just intimidates a horse from passing (which I believe is an unfair tactic that is often used and never penalized).

I just thought in this situation the 2 came in first and that the 8 didn't really come back in and hit the 2 that much to have an effect on the result particularly since it was so close to the line.

Having said that, I have a great deal of respect for your opinions, particularly on herding, and share the opinion that it does shorten strides and often unfairly does not get called. We just disagree with the effect it had in this instance.

JimmyEllis 09-28-2013 03:40 PM

I respect your opinion, as well.

Belmont Race 8

$10 Pick 3 : 2/2,5/7,8

$40 dd 1,2 / 2,5

pointman 09-28-2013 03:41 PM

Bel 8

$20DD 1/1,3

pointman 09-28-2013 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyEllis (Post 947089)
I respect your opinion, as well.

I appreciate that, Jimmy.

I am going to go out on a limb and say that based upon the JCGC thread in the Paddock that 10 point does not share the same opinion. :D

jms62 09-28-2013 03:48 PM

bel 8
$50 DD 1/1,6

pointman 09-28-2013 03:52 PM

They let Laughing go 1:16 in a Grade I and they thought they could catch her? Wow.

GPK 09-28-2013 04:04 PM

Great betting race here in the 3rd at SA. 8, 12 & 14 all interest me

pointman 09-28-2013 04:08 PM

Am I crazy to think that Imagining is a huge overlay here at the current 11-1?

JimmyEllis 09-28-2013 04:13 PM

Belmont Race 9

$40 dd 2,5/7,8

Woodbine Race 10

$200 win #2

$30 ex 2/8,9,10

$6 tri 2/8,9,10/8,9,10

pointman 09-28-2013 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 947067)
Bel 7

$1-$120
7- 2,3,4,5,8
8- 1,3,5
9- 1,2,3,4
10- 6,8

$20W 3
$20DD 3,8/1

$210.00

Bel 8

$20W 1
$20DD 1,3/8

herkhorse 09-28-2013 04:18 PM

Bel 9

20.00 DD 3-3

jms62 09-28-2013 04:18 PM

Bel 9

$50 DD 1/1,8

jms62 09-28-2013 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 947098)
$210.00

Bel 8

$20W 1
$20DD 1,3/8

Nice point. Those are rare today.

pointman 09-28-2013 04:27 PM

Trying to rate King Kreesa. Just when you think the grabbing can't get worse. :zz:

And Little Mike gets me again. :wf

jms62 09-28-2013 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 947104)
Trying to rate King Kressa. Just when you think the grabbing can't get worse. :zz:

And Little Mike gets me again. :wf

Johnny V nice job contesting the pace with a rabbit in there. His head is up his ass. Haviny said that these sure are some exciting races although i am getting a royal ass kicking

pointman 09-28-2013 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 947102)
Nice point. Those are rare today.

Thanks, Jim.

I cash once in a blue moon despite my inability to understand race dynamics.

jms62 09-28-2013 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 947107)
Thanks, Jim.

I cash once in a blue moon despite my inability to understand race dynamics.

It's easy staying in the paddock and acting like you kmow it all. In the selections thread you realize no one knows it all.

casp0555 09-28-2013 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 947104)
Trying to rate King Kreesa. Just when you think the grabbing can't get worse. :zz:

And Little Mike gets me again. :wf

Me too....f&@k!

GPK 09-28-2013 04:36 PM

Arlington 8th
W/P #9

Belmont Late Double
6, 7/8

pointman 09-28-2013 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 947108)
It's easy staying in the paddock and acting like you kmow it all. In the selections thread you realize no one knows it all.

:tro:

I don't know whether to laugh or cry as I watch the replay of Irad Ortiz strangling King Kreesa in the first quarter. I have to believe that he did not make that decision on his own.

Why run the horse if you are going to take away his deadly weapon? Who cares if you are chasing a rabbit, If you train King Kreesa don't you think your horse is faster and better than the rabbit? If you are not sure, shouldn't you side with using his best weapon? Why am I trying to inject logic here?

pointman 09-28-2013 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 947109)
Me too....f&@k!

It's incredible. The whole Texas situation really sucks for you and anyone else there, it is absurd . . . unless they prevent you from wagering on days that Little Mike is racing.

herkhorse 09-28-2013 04:53 PM

Bel 10

10.00 DD 1-3-5/13

pointman 09-28-2013 04:54 PM

Bel 10

$20W 8
$20DD 8/10,13

jms62 09-28-2013 04:56 PM

Bel 10

$20 DD 8/2,6

RockHardTen1985 09-28-2013 04:56 PM

Belmont 10th
$100 win and place #2
$20 exacta box 2,8
$240 total


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