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hi_im_god 08-28-2013 04:48 PM

i want to compliment fowler for his honesty in admitting his original post was a poorly built trojan horse designed to warn people too stupid to make character judgements on their own.

i think we can all appreciate the original intent was to help those less wise than he.

i always appreciate someone who cares enough about the dumb that he makes the effort to fabricate a story that they can understand.

blackthroatedwind 08-28-2013 05:19 PM

I'm still laughing at the comment about my " low " salary!

cmorioles 08-28-2013 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 942866)
Funny, it only took until your 3rd post in the thread to make your agenda clear.

Who would have guessed that first post was disingenuous? I know we're all shocked.

cmorioles 08-28-2013 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowler (Post 942888)
I guess no ones remembers the Siro's seminars where Andy would continuously make disparaging comments about people in the horse racing industry ( yours truly included). He takes the low salaried position at NYRA and suddenly becomes Mr. nice guy and loves everyone. I don't buy it. He may have credibility selecting horses but as a human being he's not genuine. Having said that I would encourage every one to listen to him when he discusses the horses but it should end there.

You thought this was worth posting twice?

10 pnt move up 08-28-2013 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowler (Post 942888)
I guess no ones remembers the Siro's seminars where Andy would continuously make disparaging comments about people in the horse racing industry ( yours truly included). He takes the low salaried position at NYRA and suddenly becomes Mr. nice guy and loves everyone. I don't buy it. He may have credibility selecting horses but as a human being he's not genuine. Having said that I would encourage every one to listen to him when he discusses the horses but it should end there.

Thanks for the advice, now go **** yourself.

RockHardTen1985 08-28-2013 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowler (Post 942852)
I guess no one remembers the Siro's seminars where Andy would continuously make disparaging comments about people in the horse racing industry ( yours truly included). He takes the low salaried position at NYRA and suddenly becomes Mr. nice guy and loves everyone. I don't buy it. He may have credibility selecting horses but as a human being he's not genuine. Having said that I would encourage every one to listen to him when he discusses the horses but it should end there.

Youre wrong. I have been an ******* to him on here, and just an overal dick head in the past. 2 years ago I introduced myself to him at Belmont and he was very kind to me.

TheSpyder 08-28-2013 05:49 PM

:tro::tro::tro::tro:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 942860)
fowler, instead of engaging in this thread, maybe you should just go apologize to your friends for your bad advice? you're the one who told them to listen to andy, and didn't tell them to also do their own work.


Hickory Hill Hoff 08-28-2013 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 942950)
Youre wrong. I have been an ******* to him on here, and just an overal dick head in the past. 2 years ago I introduced myself to him at Belmont and he was very kind to me.

:tro:

Hickory Hill Hoff 08-28-2013 06:18 PM

“A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows public opinion”

RockHardTen1985 08-28-2013 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff (Post 942959)
“A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows public opinion”

I listen to his show everyday. If I bet, I watch talking horses, period. But as a guide. I dont just blindly bet his horses. I think he is the best, he is exceptional at finding favorites, sometimes very heavy that wont win.

Danzig 08-28-2013 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 942942)
Thanks for the advice, now go **** yourself.


!!!

:D:$:

santana 08-28-2013 06:59 PM

Whoever the freaken idiot that is Giving Andy BS should get some dice....and pick em like that......

mark2061mn 08-28-2013 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 942768)
Wait...this isn't a complimentary thread?

I'm so disillusioned.

LOL, I thought it was too when i read the thread title.

blackthroatedwind 08-28-2013 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark2061mn (Post 942973)
LOL, I thought it was too when i read the thread title.

I never thought it was.

geeker2 08-28-2013 07:40 PM

Kate Is a Ten :$:

dagolfer33 08-28-2013 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSpyder (Post 942843)
If you were closer to the game and paid attention you'd know that if you play Andy's selections and they lose, simply find him at the track and will reimburse your wagers.

After all, this if for fun.

This reminded me of the episode of "Fresh Prince" when Will and Carlton went to Vegas and lost all their money, then went and asked Wayne Newton to give it back. Fun times.........

skyfire 08-28-2013 09:33 PM

There are two guests that I never miss on Steve's show because they are so knowledgeable, entertaining, and cut out BS: 1. Andy 2. Satish.

Who is fowler anyway. :zz:

dagolfer33 08-28-2013 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 942950)
Youre wrong. I have been an ******* to him on here, and just an overal dick head in the past. 2 years ago I introduced myself to him at Belmont and he was very kind to me.

This indeed proves Andy is good as gold.

asudevil 08-28-2013 11:04 PM

Nice agenda, Fowler. You couldn't PM Andy and take it up with him personally? Now look...

1. I've hit many bets by following his plays on Talking Horses.

2. He almost always answers my PM questions.

3. My kids approached him in the paddock several weeks ago. Despite his hectic schedule on race days, and not knowing them from Adam, he spoke to them for a bit.

As my mother used to tell me, "Go do something constructive!"

Alabama Stakes 08-28-2013 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 942936)
I'm still laughing at the comment about my " low " salary!

most of it will go through the windows.

someone had to say it.:D

Danzig 08-29-2013 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asudevil (Post 942996)
Nice agenda, Fowler. You couldn't PM Andy and take it up with him personally? Now look...

1. I've hit many bets by following his plays on Talking Horses.

2. He almost always answers my PM questions.

3. My kids approached him in the paddock several weeks ago. Despite his hectic schedule on race days, and not knowing them from Adam, he spoke to them for a bit.

As my mother used to tell me, "Go do something constructive!"

well, that wouldn't be any fun, would it?

it's like stuart on mad tv... 'look what i can do'.

geeker2 08-29-2013 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowler (Post 942852)
I guess no one remembers the Siro's seminars where Andy would continuously make disparaging comments about people in the horse racing industry ( yours truly included). He takes the low salaried position at NYRA and suddenly becomes Mr. nice guy and loves everyone. I don't buy it. He may have credibility selecting horses but as a human being he's not genuine. Having said that I would encourage every one to listen to him when he discusses the horses but it should end there.

Hey that old lady deserved to be sucker punched by Andy! Everyone knows Bill Mott can train his cat to go in a litter box...after all he is a Hall of Fame Trainer.

TheFlyingFilly 08-29-2013 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowler (Post 942852)
I guess no one remembers the Siro's seminars where Andy would continuously make disparaging comments about people in the horse racing industry ( yours truly included). He takes the low salaried position at NYRA and suddenly becomes Mr. nice guy and loves everyone. I don't buy it. He may have credibility selecting horses but as a human being he's not genuine. Having said that I would encourage every one to listen to him when he discusses the horses but it should end there.

I don't post much but I have to comment on this. My husband (SouthBeachLuv) and I met Andy at Saratoga last year and he was incredibly kind. We had visited Belmont Park the day before heading up to Saratoga and he ensured that we had a wonderful time at both tracks (it had been a longtime dream of mine to visit Ruffian's grave, and thanks to Andy, I was able to do so).

Andy's online persona may be harsh, but so what? It's who you are in person that matters, and he's a stand-up guy.

Danzig 08-29-2013 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheFlyingFilly (Post 943073)
I don't post much but I have to comment on this. My husband (SouthBeachLuv) and I met Andy at Saratoga last year and he was incredibly kind. We had visited Belmont Park the day before heading up to Saratoga and he ensured that we had a wonderful time at both tracks (it had been a longtime dream of mine to visit Ruffian's grave, and thanks to Andy, I was able to do so).

Andy's online persona may be harsh, but so what? It's who you are in person that matters, and he's a stand-up guy.

i have much respect for those in the industry, public figures, who come here and post..or more. we are lucky enough to have several people come and give out advice, their opinions, their points of view.
i have no respect for someone who comes here and gripes at them, especially when it's done anonymously!
everyone knows who andy is, steve, etc, etc, and they come here and weather all the slings and arrows. i'm still not happy that some others in the industry, owners and the like, quit coming because they got tired of the bs from some around here.
you don't have to be a fan, but these people don't need to come here and start threads like this either.

TheFlyingFilly 08-29-2013 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 943080)
i have much respect for those in the industry, public figures, who come here and post..or more. we are lucky enough to have several people come and give out advice, their opinions, their points of view.
i have no respect for someone who comes here and gripes at them, especially when it's done anonymously!
everyone knows who andy is, steve, etc, etc, and they come here and weather all the slings and arrows. i'm still not happy that some others in the industry, owners and the like, quit coming because they got tired of the bs from some around here.
you don't have to be a fan, but these people don't need to come here and start threads like this either.

I agree there--we're lucky to be able to interact so freely with some of the figureheads of the racing industry. OP is a troll and nothing more :)

hoovesupsideyourhead 08-29-2013 01:18 PM

I didn't know andy from adam and he went out of his way to help me out.so I cant agree with anything you have said..he and steve would give the shirts off of ..

Danzig 08-29-2013 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 943093)
I didn't know andy from adam and he went out of his way to help me out.so I cant agree with anything you have said..he and steve would give the shirts off of ..

:tro:

satan's twin 08-29-2013 02:16 PM

Let me continue with the canonization ceremonies. I met St. Andy back in...............never mind.

The lad has an effervescence about him that permeates throughout a crowd. Last week's show at the Parting Glass with interviews with the Chief and Jerry Bailey was a classic for every serious horse racing fan. I really wish I could attend tonight's event.

Before his halo blinds you, I will add that a colleague witnessed Andy standing on a phone book that included all five boroughs of New York just to use the big boy's urinal.

satan's twin 08-29-2013 02:17 PM

Let me continue with the canonization ceremonies. I met St. Andy back in...............never mind.

The lad has an effervescence about him that permeates throughout a crowd. Last week's show at the Parting Glass with interviews with the Chief and Jerry Bailey was a classic for every serious horse racing fan. I really wish I could attend tonight's event.

Before his halo blinds you, I will add that a colleague witnessed Andy standing on a phone book that included all five boroughs of New York just to use the big boy's urinal.....

Danzig 08-29-2013 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satan's twin (Post 943102)
Let me continue with the canonization ceremonies. I met St. Andy back in...............never mind.

The lad has an effervescence about him that permeates throughout a crowd. Last week's show at the Parting Glass with interviews with the Chief and Jerry Bailey was a classic for every serious horse racing fan. I really wish I could attend tonight's event.

Before his halo blinds you, I will add that a colleague witnessed Andy standing on a phone book that included all five boroughs of New York just to use the big boy's urinal.

:D

you sure kev wasn't in town?

blackthroatedwind 08-29-2013 06:07 PM

Thanks for having my back.

The haters are OK....as long as they're listening!

tector 08-30-2013 12:08 AM

Everybody has cold streaks. Most of us are fortunate enough to have them privately. People like Andy and Doug don't have that luxury.

pmayjr 08-30-2013 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 942768)
Wait...this isn't a complimentary thread?

I'm so disillusioned.

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 942770)
funny enough i took the initial post as a compliment as well but no one else seemed too. Im just so glass half full these days

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowler (Post 942799)
Perhaps I should have expanded. All horseplayers go bad but it's the ones with credibility that admit it.

To the OP- Sorry that your post got blown out of proportion. I got what you were saying.

The best message board posters/handicappers are gonna troll, and you gave them the ammo. But I interpreted your post as positive. I wish you didn't follow up with that low paying NYRA gig post, but I get the positive intent in the original post.

Trollers gonna troll.

declansharbor 08-30-2013 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmayjr (Post 943198)
To the OP- Sorry that your post got blown out of proportion. I got what you were saying.

The best message board posters/handicappers are gonna troll, and you gave them the ammo. But I interpreted your post as positive. I wish you didn't follow up with that low paying NYRA gig post, but I get the positive intent in the original post.

Trollers gonna troll.

He pretty much exposed himself as the troll and here you are defending him? His posts have been only meant to slight, as anyone with a shred of a brain can see.

pmayjr 08-30-2013 06:45 AM

what? The original post was that Andy Serling was cool enough to admit that his picks weren't good at Toga lately. That was the intent.

So it caused his friends to go broke. OK. But what the OP was saying was that he thought it was classy that Andy tweeted/admitted (which he did, I saw the Tweet) that his picks weren't good lately.

Now that whole thing about the low-paying NYRA post was really stupid to add, but the original post's intent was positive.

pmayjr 08-30-2013 06:47 AM

It was stupid to start a thread about this... but in a dumb way the intent was positive.

Calzone Lord 08-30-2013 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmayjr (Post 943205)
It was stupid to start a thread about this... but in a dumb way the intent was positive.

It wasn't positive.

It was a troll, doing a rather weak job of trolling.

The poor troll, in his fantasy world, was the victim of 'disparaging public remarks' made against him when BTW was supposedly trashing the good people of the horse racing industry.

It was completely phony and ridiculous.

A few years back, Miguel Cabrera made disparaging comments about my dog Arnie. I just wish I knew what, if any, boards he posts at or reads, so I could troll him the next time he has a bad week or goes into an 0-for-18 slump. His slump will cost my imaginary friends, a whole lot of imaginary money, but I will take the high road and call him a classy guy because he'll tell reporters stuff like he wasn't expecting an off-speed pitch on a 3-2 count, and was cheating on the fastball.

Alabama Stakes 08-30-2013 09:06 AM

mangy mutt
 
To be fair to Cabrerra, Artie looks like he has a touch of the mange, and his breath is as bad as his farts....just sayin

Danzig 08-30-2013 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 943211)
It wasn't positive.

It was a troll, doing a rather weak job of trolling.

The poor troll, in his fantasy world, was the victim of 'disparaging public remarks' made against him when BTW was supposedly trashing the good people of the horse racing industry.

It was completely phony and ridiculous.

A few years back, Miguel Cabrera made disparaging comments about my dog Arnie. I just wish I knew what, if any, boards he posts at or reads, so I could troll him the next time he has a bad week or goes into an 0-for-18 slump. His slump will cost my imaginary friends, a whole lot of imaginary money, but I will take the high road and call him a classy guy because he'll tell reporters stuff like he wasn't expecting an off-speed pitch on a 3-2 count, and was cheating on the fastball.

:tro:


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