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hoovesupsideyourhead 08-24-2013 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 942038)
I think there is no doubt at this point that on the turf today you have to either be on the lead or get an inside trip close to the lead to have any chance. Outside and you are done.

I don't get why Rosie didn't send the 7 who should have been faster to the lead than the 2. Frac Daddy will be a huge bet against for me next out.

because shes overrated

pointman 08-24-2013 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 942041)
Know what's really ****ed is I picked Frac Daddy in the Contest but didn't have a plug nickel on him for real.. Who is the real Moron.. :o

Now that the bias is pretty clear, I am afraid you may see some really stupid rides with everyone sending . . . .

pointman 08-24-2013 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 942042)
because shes overrated

You won't get an argument from me there, it is inexplicable to me that she didn't send that horse.

randallscott35 08-24-2013 02:58 PM

I think So Many Ways is the value despite the overrated jock up. We'll see

pointman 08-24-2013 03:00 PM

Spa 9

$50W 4
$20DD 4/1,2

jms62 08-24-2013 03:03 PM

Time to take the rubber band off

Saratoga 9

.50 P4 $90

9) 4,5,6,8,9
10) 1,2,3,4,5,7
11) 2,5,7,8,10,12
12) 8

$5 P4 $40

9) 4,6,9
10) 2
11) 2,8
12) 8

.50 P4 $40

9) 4,5,6,9
10) 2
11) 2,5,8,10
12) 3,5,6,8,9

.50 P4 $40

9) 6
10) 1,2,4,7
11) 2,5,8,10
12) 3,5,6,8,9

.50 P4 $40

9) 4,5,6,9
10) 1,2,4,7
11) 8
12) 3,5,6,8,9


$50 DD 6/2
$20 DD 6/1,4
$10 DD 4,9/2

casp0555 08-24-2013 03:04 PM

Race #9 08/24/2013
Saratoga
$0.5 Pick-4
# 2,5,8
WT # 1,4,5
WT # 2,5,9,10
WT # 3,5,8
$54.00

randallscott35 08-24-2013 03:12 PM

Time to take Rosie off after that abortion

jms62 08-24-2013 03:25 PM

Saratoga 10

$50 DD 2/8
$20 DD 2/2.10
$10 DD 1,4/8

pointman 08-24-2013 03:29 PM

Spa 10

$20W 2
$20DD 1,2/10
$10DD 1,2/5

JimmyEllis 08-24-2013 03:31 PM

Saratoga Race 10

#4, Centre Court, figures to get an absolutely perfect trip here, sitting behind the 1 and 2.But Arnold just flat out sucks and doesn't seem to have a clue as to how to get this one up to a race. See what happens.



$100 win #4

$30 ex 4/1,3,5

On cue, TSTV freezing up again.

casp0555 08-24-2013 03:34 PM

hedging a bit....

Race #10 08/24/2013
Saratoga
$3 Exacta
# 2
WT # 1,4,5
$9.00

jms62 08-24-2013 03:41 PM

NYRA should be embarrassed with these conditions.

pointman 08-24-2013 03:41 PM

I am shocked that Mike Smith did not use Pianist's speed early as she is faster than the 1 to the front. I guess he was satisfied with 2nd place money. :wf

jms62 08-24-2013 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 942061)
I am shocked that Mike Smith did not use Pianist's speed early as she is faster than the 1 to the front. I guess he was satisfied with 2nd place money. :wf

Dude that killed me.. This is an absolute joke today. Biggest day of the year. Do they have absolutely no control in producing a somewhat fair track?

JimmyEllis 08-24-2013 03:48 PM

Lezcano on Orb. What's the over under that he fails to change leads in the lane? I see Ice Box and Fly Down all over again.

pointman 08-24-2013 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 942062)
Dude that killed me.. This is an absolute joke today. Biggest day of the year. Do they have absolutely no control in producing a somewhat fair track?

They have not gotten any rain. The turf course is obviously very hard and a conveyor belt right now. The good news is that we all know the bias here and can try to take advantage of it. I really think there is nothing Glen Kozak can do with that course right now, only mother nature can fix this.

I played a $36 pk4 at the last second that I didn't have time to post, but used the 1,2,7 in that leg. You would think that I would play that triple. :wf

Having said that, I really thought that Pianist was too quick early and could get the lead over the 1. Not really sure why Mike Smith would disagree, that really hurt from the perspective of my win and double plays.

randallscott35 08-24-2013 03:51 PM

Played Pianist as well. Don't understand sitting back.

Playing Capo Bastone to show here at 25-1.

jms62 08-24-2013 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 942064)
They have not gotten any rain. The turf course is obviously very hard and a conveyor belt right now. The good news is that we all know the bias here and can try to take advantage of it. I really think there is nothing Glen Kozak can do with that course right now, only mother nature can fix this.

I played a $36 pk4 at the last second that I didn't have time to post, but used the 1,2,7 in that leg. You would think that I would play that triple. :wf

Having said that, I really thought that Pianist was too quick early and could get the lead over the 1. Not really sure why Mike Smith would disagree, that really hurt from the perspective of my win and double plays.

Pianst losing unfortunately dooms my day. Why can't they just water the **** out of it? Golf courses don't go to **** when there is a drought. It's 2013 for chrissakes if they can't figure out a way I am certain someone out there can.

hoovesupsideyourhead 08-24-2013 03:56 PM

40 place show 11 ..I know I know..hes under the radar but..i think he sitting on a big race ..ive wheeled him up n down w the 2/5/8/9/12/10

pointman 08-24-2013 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 942066)
Pianst losing unfortunately dooms my day. Why can't they just water the **** out of it? Golf courses don't go to **** when there is a drought. It's 2013 for chrissakes if they can't figure out a way I am certain someone out there can.

From what I understand you can never water it and get the effect that mother nature gives it. But then again, I am just a degenerate gambler, so what do I know?

That killed me too, Smith's ride inexplicable to me.

JimmyEllis 08-24-2013 03:56 PM

Unlike dirt biases, turf biases are beatable. Just that the jocks aren't sophisticated enough to understand that there is a bias, let alone how to beat it. Nothing new here.

jms62 08-24-2013 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 942068)
From what I understand you can never water it and get the effect that mother nature gives it. But then again, I am just a degenerate gambler, so what do I know?

That killed me too, Smith's ride inexplicable to me.

Lezcano killed me on Prado Cat then killed me again by winning with Laughing. Smith Killed me on Pianst so I have to put something on Let em shine

ADJMK 08-24-2013 04:01 PM

With the way the track is playing how can you not key off the #10.

10 with 4,5,7,9

pointman 08-24-2013 04:03 PM

Spa 11

late pk4's split with pmac:


$1-$100
11- 10
12- 1,3,6,8
13- 3,4,7,8,10
14- 1,5,8,10,13

$1-$126
11- 10
12- 1,3,8
13- 3,4,7,8,10,11
14- 1,3,4,5,8,10,13

$0.50-$90
11- 5,7,10
12- 1,3,8
13- 3,4,7,8,10
12- 1,8,10,13

$50W 10
$20DD 10/1,8

JimmyEllis 08-24-2013 04:09 PM

Saratoga Race 11

$100 win #10

$60 dd 10/8

jms62 08-24-2013 04:11 PM

Sar 11

$5 Ex 10/4,5,7,11

casp0555 08-24-2013 04:12 PM

Race #11 08/24/2013
Saratoga
$2 Exacta
# 8
WT # 2,5,9,10
$8.00

Race #11 08/24/2013
Saratoga
$3 Exacta
# 10
WT # 2,8
$6.00

jms62 08-24-2013 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 942077)
Race #11 08/24/2013
Saratoga
$2 Exacta
# 8
WT # 2,5,9,10
$8.00

Race #11 08/24/2013
Saratoga
$3 Exacta
# 10
WT # 2,8
$6.00

Absolutely ****ing Destroys any chance I have of getting out.:zz:

randallscott35 08-24-2013 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 942065)
Played Pianist as well. Don't understand sitting back.

Playing Capo Bastone to show here at 25-1.

Jesus ****ing Christ

pointman 08-24-2013 04:16 PM

Mike Smith is an absolute jerk off, how in god's name did he give up the rail to Mentor Cane? :wf:wf

jms62 08-24-2013 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 942079)
Jesus ****ing Christ

Nice Call... :$::tro:

JimmyEllis 08-24-2013 04:18 PM

Well, it's not all bad. My phone actually alerted me that it was fully charged. I mean, that **** never happens. :wf

jms62 08-24-2013 04:19 PM

Zito really got Declan's Warrior ready for that one :rolleyes:

randallscott35 08-24-2013 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 942081)
Nice Call... :$::tro:

Better than 5-1 to show but I just couldn't convince myself with the way the track was playing he'd win straight up

-BT- 08-24-2013 04:23 PM

well at least i don't have to worry about the travers now :rolleyes:


stone cold closer on a speed biased track, right in the middle of the pk4 sequence, kick to dick


-bt-

jms62 08-24-2013 04:23 PM

That was Irad Ortiz's 8th $20+ Winner this meet.

ADJMK 08-24-2013 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 942080)
Mike Smith is an absolute jerk off, how in god's name did he give up the rail to Mentor Cane? :wf:wf

Most have really been playing attention to the way the track is playing. And where did the winner come from.Up the rail.

JimmyEllis 08-24-2013 04:25 PM

Woodbine Race 10

$100 win #1 - min odds 5:2

$50 ex box 1/2

knickslions2 08-24-2013 04:31 PM

Travers

$50 win 3
$20 exacta
3/8,9


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