Love Person of Interest!

me too and theres not even any horse racing on it!

To make sure you're able to find @Horseplayers on @ESQTV next Tuesday, use their Channel Finder: http://tv.esquire.com/channelfinder

It's already in the TiVo database too. I scheduled my Season Pass. :)

Horse Players- Esquire Channel
 

New horse racing show starts tomorrow on Esquire channel.

http://tv.esquire.com/shows/horseplayers

Who is the track announcer in this cut? Why reproduce a race call?

http://tv.esquire.com/videos/71003-h...the-cigar-mile


As Steve Haskin mentioned today ... You can see that in this clip below...

http://tv.esquire.com/videos/71005-h...illy-mare-turf

IMO, this will be like any other show where long time and experienced horse players will frown at alot of the statements such as Hellmers (when he says 'Especially for the FM Turf because your a female and they are females' or something close to it) and how the horses don't match up.

This is why Luck was so good because it was pretty darn close to reality.

Wow, that clip looks awful...and that doesn't even count the ridiculous "race call"...which of course had to be someone with a foreign accent.

Marketing Mix bears a striking resemblance to Turbulent Descent.

Dear God. :eek::rolleyes: How the fuc1< do you not catch that in a friggin' trailer edit?

I guess we'll have to tune in to find out whether her "female connection" with the female horses was well served. Jeezus this is going to be a mess.

Jockeys, the show, used to do the same stuff.

The did a lot of filming during the 2012 Breeders' Cup Betting Challenge and Hellmers was about 3 tables behind Voljack and I. If we get into any of the shots, don't expect to see anything behind us.

Show looks horrible.

You can clearly see the saddlecloth on the horse they say is marketing mix....man what a sham.

No one really handicaps like that right? Maybe its me, that guys at least playing for some serious coin.

Though he's a very nice guy and a very good handicapper...a guy from Erie who is a $10 a race bettor won the richest Harness Racing Handicapping Tournament in 2013 -- the prize was $100,000 and it was held at the Meadowlands. In fact, he actually had to win two contests. A big Internet one to qualify, and than win at The Big M.

Another guy from here won a huge tournament at the Orleans, in Vegas, a few years back.

You just have to travel for these big contests. Once you're in them, whoever gets the hottest wins. I wouldn't be shocked if there are one or two unexceptional handicappers featured.

I mean "that ones got some kidney sweat, she is out", in the paddock 20 minutes before the actual race, with your handicapping tourney in the balance.

I liked the guy that had to bet Groupie Doll because she had won five in a row.

So far, the NY guys are awesome but this Hellmers guy, no mas, "give me kiss" this guy says

We would have been alive other than losing by a whisker.

I liked the show. Not perfect, but not that bad either.

It was amusing, if nothing else.

Pretty darn entertaining...but, kind of silly.

I liked the NY guys alot, my only thing about it is be accurate. They had Groupie Doll at 20/1 in the 2012 Cigar Mile (also didn't know that is 'when' the show was starting) AND then Zagora was actually in the FM Sprint.

Hellmers is obviously very talented with his previous record, but I do feel that he will turn people off because he is just downright weird.

It's hard to read much into him.

Is his oddball behavior an act for the camera?

I've never seen a horseplayer win with such dignity. Pittsburgh Phil (quite inaccurately) was portrayed to win like that. But the best racing mind of that time who put stuff to print, Walter Vosbugh, wrote that Pittsburgh Phil would have horrible temper tantrums after races, and he was a fierce complainer when he didn't agree with a weight assignment his horse was handicapped with.

Headband Weirdo's two contest showings for the Breeders' Cup were extremely impressive, but contests are about stabbing at longshots, and the sample size of races are small.

If you're to believe the Rotunda table, that hot Mail-Order Bride selected five straight winners in a row, solely on the basis of name.

A contest is basically a race to the highest score, so you generally have to stab with longshots and bypass logical horses if you want to win them.

My gut feeling is "I'd sure love to book that guys action over the long-term" -- but who knows. It will be interesting to see more episodes.

I thought it was entertaining enough to watch the next episode.

Groupie Doll at 20/1 in the Cigar Mile, say what?

Fake announcer at Santa Anita, really, guess an agreement with Frank didn't happen

Not sure about Hellmers thou, some zen like capping or just playing to the camera, none the less, 2nd in the BC tourney back to back.

Team Rotondo, $900 for a pick 4 and pick 6, not sure how it was played, but they seemed to miss on both, when they lost the photo

Someone told Haskin on FB that another production company did the original pilot and when the new production company came on to do the next 9 eps they didn't have all the necessary footage to make edits with, whatever that means. I guess there wasn't an option of putting the real Zagora and Marketing Mix in the shot. Whether it ever existed or just didn't make it to the new company, who knows.

My pet peeve with both this and Jockeys is the fake race calls. They lack the intensity if nothing else. Usually just sound off if not downright silly.

He's advocated for betting exchanges in the US ... which makes him respectable in my book, even if he's an otherwise Vegan Weirdo Douche.

Racing people need to realize this show is NOT for them. It's not. Feel slighted by that if you will, but this show is for people who aren't fans or current racing bettors. Come to it from that perspective and take a chill in the interim with a lack of 100% accuracy. NO reality TV shows represents reality as it happened.

Stewie-

I think it was three hookers and their mother.

Thus I feel it has absolutely no chance whatsoever of being successful.

teller tells the guy good luck......I thought you only got the kiss of death from local telllers at Saratoga.

I don't necessarily agree - if it spurs interest from non-fans that become more interested in horse racing, that would be a different successful outcome.

We here at DT don't have to love it - we already love racing.

Will it be online to watch?
Cause I'm on the road all the time.

I read that it was a "glitch" in the premier and all race calls will be real in upcoming episodes.

We'll see.

Mike Gundy voice: "That's not true!"

That might be the case in NHC type contests Doug but, this is the live :$: BCBC, a whole different format. When you have to bet a minimum of $600 on 5 races from Friday's BC program and $900 on 6 races from Saturday's program.
You can't throw that kinda money at bombs just hoping to connect on one.

While I will be the first to say that Helmers is Grade 1 douche on camera, his two performances over four days of Breeders Cup races at two different tracks is not a fluke. The biggest mistake he made was betting very little of his bankroll on Fort Larned. (Who he said, he had a huge opinion on)

I'm a MAN! I'm 40! Come after ME!

Fair or not, a lot of people think regular horse players are kinda greasy lowlifes... The premiere episode of this show didn't do anything to change anyone's opinion of that.

Team Rotundo and the dude with the magnifying glass made me think this could be "the Situation", Ronnie and Vinny from Jersey Shore when they're in their 50s .

They're colorful personalities to watch, but they're greasy as f*ck (I say this as a member of the Walmart crowd, I'm no snoot).

I thought it was pretty entertaining, and I will watch it again, as long as they stick with the racing and don't start to dwell into their personal lives too much.

Finally got around to watching the first episode today and I liked it. There were some issues, but overall it was well-produced and a fun hour. The NY guys are good on camera. I hope going forward, there's more about the nuts and bolts of handicapping, but we'll see. If nothing else, it's some positive press for an industry that is constantly getting raked over the coals for this or that. Hellmers is a kook.

Also watched and was expecting not to like it due to some of the "mistakes" pointed out here. I was pleasantly surprised, I also loved the New York crews. Question I have was the breeders cup footage of Helmers shot after the fact. I have never seen someone so devoid of emotion after a major possibly life altering score.