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Arletta 04-18-2013 05:45 AM

At last nights Bruins game :tro:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/b...ombings-041713

Rudeboyelvis 04-18-2013 09:18 AM

Suspects uncovered by Anonymous and confirmed by Police after being reported by Drudge

jms62 04-18-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 924096)
Suspects uncovered by Anonymous and confirmed by Police after being reported by Drudge

And nobody thought of asking what they had in their backpacks? I guess that would be considered racial profiling:zz:

Danzig 04-18-2013 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 924101)
And nobody thought of asking what they had in their backpacks? I guess that would be considered racial profiling:zz:

the police can't just search you, they have to have cause.

jms62 04-18-2013 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 924128)
the police can't just search you, they have to have cause.

How do you get "Search" from "Ask him what is in the backpack"


But to your misinterpretation of my point .

How about this.

Cop

"You there in the military fatigues with that HUGE backpack. Can I ask what is in it?"

Bad Guy

"No you have no right to search it"

Cop

"I didn't ask to search it I asked what is in it. Now that you mention it you can either open it up on your own or I can call down and we can wait for a warrant because you are acting suspicious. If you like sir we can go down to the station now while we wait for the warrant. You choose."


If you don't think stuff like this goes on 24-7 then you are wearing Rose colored glasses.

GBBob 04-18-2013 02:33 PM

Too bad the guy (17 yr old kid) already went to the police after he saw his picture this morning and already has been cleared.

Unless that's part of the cover up as well:rolleyes:

Kasept 04-18-2013 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 924096)
Suspects uncovered by Anonymous and confirmed by Police after being reported by Drudge:

Please don't link to that website from here. I do not want anything with my name on it associated with the vile, inane spew that emanates from it. I eliminated the Politics section from the Forum for a reason.

Danzig 04-18-2013 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 924149)
How do you get "Search" from "Ask him what is in the backpack"


But to your misinterpretation of my point .

How about this.

Cop

"You there in the military fatigues with that HUGE backpack. Can I ask what is in it?"

Bad Guy

"No you have no right to search it"

Cop

"I didn't ask to search it I asked what is in it. Now that you mention it you can either open it up on your own or I can call down and we can wait for a warrant because you are acting suspicious. If you like sir we can go down to the station now while we wait for the warrant. You choose."


If you don't think stuff like this goes on 24-7 then you are wearing Rose colored glasses.

yeah, cause he'd have said 'a bomb' if a cop had asked? carrying a backpack isn't suspicious. refusing a search without a warrant is a constitutional right. hanging out at midnight in a neighborhood known for drugs-that's suspicious. standing at a marathon with a backpack-not suspicious.

jocko699 04-18-2013 05:05 PM

Just got home. Looks like they have a few suspects. If they are still in the country I would expect they are apprehended within 24-48 hours.

jms62 04-18-2013 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 924200)
yeah, cause he'd have said 'a bomb' if a cop had asked? carrying a backpack isn't suspicious. refusing a search without a warrant is a constitutional right. hanging out at midnight in a neighborhood known for drugs-that's suspicious. standing at a marathon with a backpack-not suspicious.

You ask and are trained to watch and read his response. You look to see if his breathing shallows or he starts sweating. You'd be suprised at the tells you'd get when someone is commiting a crime. Also I think that a guy in army fatigues and a Huge backpack this day in age should most definitely stand out. Now I await your usual snarky response.

Danzig 04-18-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 924206)
You ask and are trained to watch and read his response. You look to see if his breathing shallows or he starts sweating. You'd be suprised at the tells you'd get when someone is commiting a crime. Also I think that a guy in army fatigues and a Huge backpack this day in age should most definitely stand out. Now I await your usual snarky response.

my dad was a d.c. policeman for 20 years, when i was in the navy, i was working with the investigators and jag office in san diego. i'm not a neophyte about that sort of thing. as for camo, it's a popular style these days. if the cops stopped every guy in camo with a pack, he'd never get home.
'usual snarky response'. appreciate it.

jocko699 04-18-2013 10:30 PM

Gunshots reported near MIT. Any relation?

my miss storm cat 04-19-2013 03:42 AM

One Boston Marathon suspect dead, another still on run, officials say

Two men identified by law enforcement sources as the Boston Marathon attack suspects — armed with explosives and guns — battled authorities in a Boston suburb early Friday morning, unleashing chaos until cops took one of the men into custody, and the other fled, the sources said.

Officials later said the the suspect taken into custody died


http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...cials-say?lite

Rupert Pupkin 04-19-2013 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 924246)
One Boston Marathon suspect dead, another still on run, officials say

Two men identified by law enforcement sources as the Boston Marathon attack suspects — armed with explosives and guns — battled authorities in a Boston suburb early Friday morning, unleashing chaos until cops took one of the men into custody, and the other fled, the sources said.

Officials later said the the suspect taken into custody died


http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...cials-say?lite

"The suspects are brothers with the last name Tsarnaez, law enforcement officials told NBC News. Two law enforcement officials told NBC News that both men had international ties, had been in the United States about a year, were in their early 20s and had military experience."

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...firefight?lite

Danzig 04-19-2013 06:13 AM

i saw something about them being from a region near chechnya. of course, some of these 'breaking news' things most likely need corroboration.

crazy stuff. glad one's down. hope they find the other one, and very quickly. and hopefully alive for questioning.

Alabama Stakes 04-19-2013 06:28 AM

wow ! one of them killed an MIT cop and got killed in a shootout. they have the other guy trapped within a 20 block perimeter. They are closing in. 2 Brothers from Russia. We will have the other guy shortly.

Danzig 04-19-2013 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 924254)
wow ! one of them killed an MIT cop and got killed in a shootout. they have the other guy trapped within a 20 block perimeter. They are closing in. 2 Brothers from Russia. We will have the other guy shortly.

we? :rolleyes:

jms62 04-19-2013 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 924256)
we? :rolleyes:

Yes this like everything else is about him.

Alabama Stakes 04-19-2013 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 924257)
Yes this like everything else is about him.

Speaking for the city (how dare I ) ends up being 2 local kids from cambridge via chechnya Unbelievable

GBBob 04-19-2013 07:51 AM

Kim Jong un: "Hey!!...what about me!!"

dellinger63 04-19-2013 09:01 AM

Salon Magazine: 'Two white kids from the suburbs' ;)

Kasept 04-19-2013 11:19 AM

http://www.gofundme.com/BucksforBauman

Fund raising site for Jeff Bauman, from the wheelchair photo with Carlos Arrendondo, (the equally tragic Costa Rican native who lost the one son in Iraq and the second to suicide).

Bauman apparently helped authorities identify the Tsarnaev Brothers.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate..._may_have.html

jocko699 04-19-2013 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 924281)
http://www.gofundme.com/BucksforBauman

Fund raising site for Jeff Bauman, from the wheelchair photo with Carlos Arrendondo, (the equally tragic Costa Rican native who lost the one son in Iraq and the second to suicide).

Bauman apparently helped authorities identify the Tsarnaev Brothers.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate..._may_have.html

Thanks Steve!!!

Danzig 04-19-2013 12:13 PM

thanks for the link, steve.

but, in that vein, everyone do be careful about donating. sadly, for every legitimate fundraiser, there are people out there who will set up fraudulent sites to try to get money. those people disgust me, so please do your due diligence on who to give to.

jocko699 04-19-2013 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 924291)
thanks for the link, steve.

but, in that vein, everyone do be careful about donating. sadly, for every legitimate fundraiser, there are people out there who will set up fraudulent sites to try to get money. those people disgust me, so please do your due diligence on who to give to.

Is it finally over? I hope so and continue to pray for those families involved.

Danzig 04-19-2013 07:31 PM

got him cornered....supposedly. seems at this point it may just be a question if they take him alive or dead. we're listening, driving to bull shoals for the wknd

Danzig 04-19-2013 07:41 PM

just heard 3 taken into custody during a search warrant execution related to the 2 bombers

Sightseek 04-19-2013 07:43 PM

Hopefully they are right, but they are saying he is in custody!

Danzig 04-19-2013 07:45 PM

round of applause, news that they have him in custody.....all on the radio

Danzig 04-19-2013 07:47 PM

just confirmed, good deal

Danzig 04-19-2013 07:48 PM

so glad they got him alive, hopefully they can get a lot of info

geeker2 04-19-2013 07:49 PM

the first thing they should do is water board him.

rpncaine 04-19-2013 07:50 PM

Show him the scene from Zero Dark Thirty and then ask him questions.

Danzig 04-19-2013 07:50 PM

no. any info from torture is suspect, just like a coerced confession. is it truth, or what the person thinks his interrogators want to hear?

Danzig 04-19-2013 07:57 PM

young, alone, no older brother calling the shots. he might tell them everything they want to know right off the bat

geeker2 04-19-2013 08:05 PM

Dirty Harry

jocko699 04-19-2013 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 924386)
no. any info from torture is suspect, just like a coerced confession. is it truth, or what the person thinks his interrogators want to hear?

What do you base that on? May be the silliest statement I have ever seen posted.

bigrun 04-19-2013 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 924386)
no. any info from torture is suspect, just like a coerced confession. is it truth, or what the person thinks his interrogators want to hear?

He's in Federal custody (MA does not have the death penalty)and hasn't been marandized..His father is flying in from Russia and pleads to his son to tell all...

Danzig 04-19-2013 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jocko699 (Post 924389)
What do you base that on? May be the silliest statement I have ever seen posted.

No way, knowing some of the things that have shown up on this board, that its the silliest statement ever.and i base it on everything I have ever read, seen or heard on the subject. Whether the subject was Elizabethan england and sir Francis Walsingham, or Cromwell and Henry the 8th, or modern times. At any rate, rest assured i didn't just make it up.

jocko699 04-19-2013 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 924393)
No way, knowing some of the things that have shown up on this board, that its the silliest statement ever.and i base it on everything I have ever read, seen or heard on the subject. Whether the subject was Elizabethan england and sir Francis Walsingham, or Cromwell and Henry the 8th, or modern times. At any rate, rest assured i didn't just make it up.

Ok, that clears that up, sheesh.


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