what rules did petraus break to have an affair? he's not active military, so i doubt there are any rules about having a girl on the side.
it's an affair. it's not a james bond movie, she's not a russian commie, and apparently nothing was compromised.
as for the last sentence, i'm pretty sure that's why he was encouraged to resign, and why he did resign as soon as he was told about the investigation. and i'm sure he feels like a complete and utter fool.

if i don't feel it is a matter of national security, why would i care about who knew what and when?
he was screwing a girl. so what?!
and if the first debate, and the libya attack and all the other real problems didn't matter, why would it matter that some guy not named obama was screwing someone other than his wife?

The "media" seems to do a lot of "selective reporting" these days doesn't it? Corruption INC.

these days? you mean always i think.

He's the head of the CIA. Dammit. Some people are PAID not to "screw some girl".

Most always!

:rolleyes: :D

yeah, it was common knowledge back in the day that thom jefferson was playing pattycake with 'dashing' sally hemings, and that he had kids with her. i bet it would be a lot quicker to name the po-lie-ticians and others in d.c. that AREN'T cheating.
david vitter anyone? wasn't just cheating, he was paying for it. still in the senate.

What rules did he break?

"While affairs may be commonplace in Washington, when they involve the director of the CIA, things can take on a different tone.

Analysts say there is no evidence that a security breach occurred as a result of the affair, but that hasn't stopped discussion that Broadwell could have gained access to classified information as a result of what she has routinely described as "unprecedented access" to Petraeus.

That discussion seemed to gain momentum Monday thanks to comments Broadwell made in a speech last month at the University of Denver.

"I don't know if a lot of you have heard this, but the CIA annex had actually taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to get these prisoners back," Broadwell said.

A senior intelligence official told CNN on Monday, "These detention claims are categorically not true. Nobody was ever held at the annex before, during, or after the attacks."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/12/us/pet...ion/index.html


Call me crazy her story makes a lot more sense than the various ones which we have been told. I wonder where she got the idea about that secret CIA prison?

You dont find it troubling that the head of the CIA was so easily trapped into a relationship with a woman who was obviously looking for something more than a one night stand? That he allowed her far more access than many were comfortable with and we dont have any idea what he discussed with her? She is intellegent and accomplished enough to be scary IMO for a guy like Petraeus to be involved with. This might not be James Bond movie but for someone as smart as her to be able to get close to the head of CIA so easily is troubling. Broadwell has a diplomats pedigree and diplomats make good spies. Just imagine if she had worse intentions than just an affair?

i try not to get worked up about hypotheticals.

is he a fool? yes. but unless/until something actually worrisome comes out, it's a non-story to me. sorry.
and 'easily trapped'? i doubt he thought he was being trapped. and unless she had something nefarious in mind, then i have to think it was just an affair.
and she doesn't sound particularly smart, knowing about the ridiculous emails she sent. if she had a cunning plan, she botched it pretty badly.
i seriously doubt either one of them thought all their actions thru. if they had, the affair wouldn't have happened.

and, after months of inquiry, there was no ticking time bomb. just not seeing a grand conspiracy to worry about.

You're right, she does!

Kinda Spy-like! In an East-German way. We are screwed.

I guess you and I differ on the importance of the CIA. You treat this as though it is the head of the Consumer affairs department.

And if there was a ticking time bomb you dont really think that we would find out about this do you?

of course the cia is important. however, you're trying to include this as tho it has some sort of huge relevance, or an affect on national security. in fact, it has neither.

from the ap:

The FBI looked into whether a separate set of emails between Petraeus and Broadwell might involve any security breach and concluded it did not.

The FBI searched Broadwell's home in Charlotte, N.C., Monday night, with her consent, according to a federal law enforcement official, who requested anonymity because the official was not authorized to speak on the record about the investigation.

The official said the FBI just wanted to make sure there were no classified documents out of government custody.




--------the only group it seems that is yelping to high heaven are some in congress, who want to know why they didn't know. great. the fbi finds nothing untoward except some extramarital sex, so all the problems we are facing will get shunted aside yet again...cause hey, a sex scandal.

and yes, if there was more, we'd find out. just like we did in watergate, etc, etc. nobody keeps secrets for long up there.

No one seems to care. We are screwed. If We the People don't wise up soon... oh forget it.

http://www.slate.com/articles/double...he_affair.html

saw that article title, and thought of this thread.

Why in the world are we paying FBI agents to go through 30,000 pages of frikkin E-Mails? Especially if they aren't going to do anything about it. We have way too many FBI Agents is my guess. Wasteful Govt. spending.

Yesh because concerning the CIA we are always let in on details about what they are up to...

That was mostly drivel. No one is saying that on this occasion that the head of the CIA was duped into any precarious situations concerning sensitive info. That it was so easy to do to such a highly decorated and seemingly qualified individual is what is bothersome to me. His sex life isnt my concern, its his poor judgement and weakness that led to that poor judgement that is being questioned. Had we found he was banging escorts on trips to the Ukraine it wouldnt be nearly the big deal that it is. If Broadwell is a spy she is a poor one but IMO this doesnt give one much confidence in the Agency.

you mean the poor judgement and weakness in his sex life? not sure how you can say it's none of your business, and yet it is.

you mean her story that a senior intel official said wasn't true? hell, anyone can make up stuff. maybe she watches too many movies.
and if you're wondering about people 'covering up' the whole sordid mess:

Last month Republicans thought that Barack Obama’s feckless team had failed Americans in Benghazi. Now they know that the FBI was on to Petraeus this summer, and that the director was talking to the bureau about an affair during the hottest stretch of the scandal.

Those facts are going to prompt more questions. Two House Republicans learned of a scandal that was ensnaring national security figures, and did not run to the press with it.

CNN was reporting earlier tonight that Ms. Broadwell did have classified information on her computer, but she claims she didn't get it from the General. No explanation of where the classified info came from.

It just cracks me up that men no matter how old they are or how far along they are in their career just cant be in control of their smaller head.

It is a known fact women have as many shoes in their closet as bats in their belfry,i.e.... lots.


It's just some---- like,oh....say Touched in the Grey, don't know where their closet is.

Female Dwarfs are much worse.

Not sure I understand the other half of the phenomenon either. Can't understand women that want these old geezers. Stars on the shoulder or cash in the pocket seems to be an aphrodisiac to some women. Only one thing to say about these folks in the most erudite and edifying way befitting the higher education I received : These peoples be ho mongers and ho dogs!!

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/12/us...pagewanted=all


hopefully the above article will put to bed all talk of conspiracy, etc, etc. also, take note that it mentions petraus was well liked by both parties.

I never saw any of the conspiracy theories you previously stated - but no doubt with wack jobs on all sides they are sure to be out there.

My question is why did Holder and Mueller neglected to tell Obama about the investigation into Petraeus until after the Election. Just kind of makes you go hummmmmmmm.

Would it have had an affect on the elections if the story broke before ? GOP'ers would say yes DEM 'ers would say no.

Having lived through an eight-year administration that lied us into a war and then lied about how it was going so as not to hurt their own reelection prospects, I can say this is not anywhere on the same level.

In fact, Petraeus himself wrote an op-ed piece in 2004, totally lying about what was going on in Iraq, in order to bolster Bush's reelection prospects in an election that was much closer than the one we just had.

But, as this article points out, Petraeus' first blow job came from the media:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mhastings/th...david-petraeus

So it is ok because Bush did it?

When people start being ok with their guys doing something wrong because the other guys did something wrong where are we headed? Is it a crime or the worst thing that this administration has done? Not by a longshot. But they knew, they lied about it and there are very few non scripted acts in Washington.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the senor intellegence officials are not usually in the business of admitting that that had secret CIA prisons in embasies that were recently bombed and US officials killed.

His wife he cheated on was the daughter of the Commandant of West Point. He felched his way to four stars.

Petraeus to testify at Benghazi hearing.


http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012...i-hearing?lite

And from the Onion..

Nation Horrified To Learn About War In Afghanistan While Reading Up On Petraeus Sex Scandal..



http://www.theonion.com/articles/nat...adline:default

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The meaning of Stevie's :tro: to me just lost all of its meaning.

She's right, cuz.

I wanted to comment on Cals post but no matter how I tried to 'splain Ricky it sounded slutty and horrible. :D

Danny is right though. Don'tcha think?

Hell I feel sorry for the guy.

Stevie Wonder?....:D..I had a good teacher..:tro:

Whatevah you say.