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Riot 10-22-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 897497)
No, I'm afraid you are confusing the two. The deficit is the amount of shortfall in a year, and if that is not paid by the end of that year, the outstanding amount is added to the cumulative debt.

Yes, Joey, and this president has cut that. Annualized fiscal spending is at an all time low since Reagan.

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The 3% cut you refer to is evidently nonsense,
Only when you hold your hands over your ears, squeeze your eyes shut, and hum loudly to yourself while ignoring math.

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as the deficits, however reported, are going up, not down, and are larger than GW Bush's deficits.
Again: list this presidents specific contributions to our debt (because no, our deficits are not going up, they have gone down). $16 trillion you say - so you must know what part of that is Obama's. You say all of it. We know that's false. List what Obama has contributed to our debt by being unfunded and having to borrow money to pay for it.

Obamacare? Nope. Self-funded.
Continuing war in Iraq? Nope. Done.
Continuing war in Afghanistan? Bringing to a close.

So I'm puzzled, Joey - what has Obama contributed to our $16 trillion in debt? Tell me,list it, and I'll believe you.

You do realize that interest continues to add to the debt? That even if a president spent literally zero, the debt would rise? Except Obama has done things to cut our debt, and it's gone down 3% of GDP over his administration, from 10% of GDP to 7%. It needs to be down to about 3%. It's getting there. Romney would explode it back up again.

Rudeboyelvis 10-22-2012 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 897490)
Yes, it's easy to make the above statement, and difficult to factually dispute that list. You can't do it, huh? :D

Tell us, Rude - what specific items on that list are you angry were accomplished, and you think are bad for America?

List them for us :D

When you start your list by taking full credit for extending someone else's tax plan, you come off a bit disingenuous.

then roll into how 3 QE programs "Prevented a depression"... OMG that's a classic!

Then you spew these dis-proven lies:

Lowering the deficit by 3% of GDP?
Lowering fiscal spending to a 40-year low?
Creating 5.2 million jobs in 3 years?

which you know full well the GAO has said are false -


It just get funnier and funnier.

You are a complete fraud - no wonder you're such a fan of this trainwreck!

Riot 10-22-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 897500)
When you start your list by taking full credit for extending someone else's tax plan, you come off a bit disingenuous.

Nope. I am not talking about only stimulus spending, or the Bush Tax cuts - Obama passed his own tax cuts on top of that.

You don't like that? Yes or no? You are simply unawares they exist, apparently?

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then roll into how 3 QE programs "Prevented a depression"... OMG that's a classic!
That's not what I said. I don't attribute QE to Obama. I am not talking about QE at all. I am talking about things Obama did.

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Then you spew these dis-proven lies:

Lowering the deficit by 3% of GDP?
Lowering fiscal spending to a 40-year low?
Creating 5.2 million jobs in 3 years?
Sorry - those are not "disproven lies", those are fact, according to the CBO.

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which you know full well the GAO has said are false -
No. I've never, ever seen the GAO say those are "false" - please, quote those statements here for us. You say the CBO is lying? Or has been proven false? Please, you threw the accusation out there, prove it. Should be easy for you if it's such common knowledge.

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It just get funnier and funnier.

You are a complete fraud - no wonder you're such a fan of this trainwreck
Calling names as a distraction is about what you usually do - I am willing to ignore your rudeness and straw man attempt - can you go back and insert some facts into your assertions, and leave the name-calling behind? It seems, from your comments above, that you are unawares of quite a bit surrounding what has happened in this country the past 4 years.

alysheba4 10-22-2012 01:05 PM

sounds like everthing is hunky dory.

Riot 10-22-2012 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by alysheba4 (Post 897502)
sounds like everthing is hunky dory.

Ah, the shallow false equivalency straw man that nobody here has alleged.

:tro:

Yes, this president has factually accomplished quite a bit. That drives the Obama-Derangement crew nuts.

Rudeboyelvis 10-22-2012 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 897505)
Ah, the shallow false equivalency straw man that nobody here has alleged.

:tro:

Yes, this president has factually accomplished quite a bit. That drives the Obama-Derangement crew nuts.

Yes drawing attention away from abject failures by calling successes and then spending 50 pages of bandwith on a horseracing board to try and convince everyone that "the sky isn't really blue" is psychotic - it isn't anything else. You don't "represent" anyone here, so it would be refreshing for you to refer to these psychotic rantings as your own.

Obama's own campaign couldn't repeat your "successes" with a straight face.

Honestly - everytime I think i'm going to vote my conscience and vote for Gary Johnson, you come around and within 2 posts push me over to Romney.

the greatest thing you could possibly do for your Fearless Leader is disappear until after the election :D

Riot 10-22-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 897515)
Yes drawing attention away from abject failures by calling successes and then spending 50 pages of bandwith on a horseracing board to try and convince everyone that "the sky isn't really blue" is psychotic - it isn't anything else. You don't "represent" anyone here, so it would be refreshing for you to refer to these psychotic rantings as your own.

Obama's own campaign couldn't repeat your "successes" with a straight face.

the greatest thing you could possibly do for your Fearless Leader is disappear until after the election :D

I listed a bunch of factual accomplishments that occurred during this past administration. Those things are simply reality - independent of anybody's political wishes or inclination.

As anger and insult don't count, have yet to see anything disputing that list.

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Honestly - everytime I think i'm going to vote my conscience and vote for Gary Johnson, you come around and within 2 posts push me over to Romney.
That makes zero sense :D You think a vote for Romney or Johnson would make any difference in assuring or denying an Obama electoral college win in any given state?

Vote your conscience. Don't vote to spite another voter. That's beyond stupid. If you are voting to defeat a particular candidate, just do so, in the best way you know how.

I am voting for Obama. Not against Romney. My last vote for Obama was a vote against Sarah Palin-John McCain. Not this time.

Rudeboyelvis 10-22-2012 01:59 PM

Nope - You blew it. I'm voting for Romney. Because of you.

So when Obama loses the election because he couldn't carry Florida, you can be proud that you had something to do with it!

joeydb 10-22-2012 02:33 PM

Rom-ney! Rom-ney!!! :D

Antitrust32 10-22-2012 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 897475)
What a bunch of crap.

First, it's not "race baiting" to acknowledge that there are plenty of racists that have come out of the woodwork in their racial hate of the black president. It exists. Racism exists and is directed against the president. We all know it and see it.

Secondly, I have never implied nor said everyone who wants Romney over Obama are racists. You purposely ignoring every single other word I said is ridiculous.

Get an effing grip, you twit.

you are certifiable...


but it's okay


Go Romney!!!

Antitrust32 10-22-2012 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 897488)
OMG I REALLY AM GOING TO SPLIT MT SIDES FROM LAUGHING!!!

i really cant believe she put gitmo on that list..


nevermind.. yes i can really believe that.


Go Romney!

geeker2 10-22-2012 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 897529)
Nope - You blew it. I'm voting for Romney. Because of you.

So when Obama loses the election because he couldn't carry Florida, you can be proud that you had something to do with it!

but but but Osama bin Laden is dead.......

Riot 10-22-2012 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 897529)
Nope - You blew it. I'm voting for Romney. Because of you.

LOL - what are you, five years old? Are you stamping your feet? This is why you're not taken seriously in this forum :D

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So when Obama loses the election because he couldn't carry Florida, you can be proud that you had something to do with it!
You do the electoral math if Romney wins Florida ;)

Riot 10-22-2012 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 897536)
you are certifiable...

You think pointing out some people don't like the president because he's black is "race baiting", which demonstrates that you don't have a clue what "race baiting" actually is :D

It will be a pleasure to enjoy the fiscal growth this country is going to enjoy during Obama's second term, due to the actions he took his first term :tro:

Riot 10-22-2012 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 897537)
i really cant believe she put gitmo on that list..


nevermind.. yes i can really believe that.


Go Romney!

Yes, Obama tried to close GITMO. Just as he promised he'd do. Blocked by both Islamophobic Dems and GOP. Yes, I put that on the list.

bigrun 10-22-2012 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 897547)
but but but Osama bin Laden is dead.......


Yes yes yes, he is..:p



Danzig 10-22-2012 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 897578)
Yes yes yes, he is..:p



:rolleyes:

GPK 10-22-2012 09:21 PM

And to think these stupid F*cks will be actually casting votes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EohGmG-QUhA

Honu 10-22-2012 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 897601)
And to think these stupid F*cks will be actually casting votes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EohGmG-QUhA

That is awesomeness right there.

GPK 10-22-2012 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu (Post 897603)
You are awesome Kev.

Why thank you, JP. Thank you very much.:{>::{>:

Honu 10-22-2012 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 897604)
Why thank you, JP. Thank you very much.:{>::{>:

Your welcome Hooker

GPK 10-22-2012 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu (Post 897606)
Your welcome Hooker

That's Mr. Gigolo to you.

Danzig 10-22-2012 10:23 PM

amazing.

a far cry from when people actually took politics seriously, once upon a time.

Honu 10-22-2012 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 897607)
That's Mr. Gigolo to you.

Whats your rate?

Honu 10-22-2012 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 897608)
amazing.

a far cry from when people actually took politics seriously, once upon a time.

I take them seriously, I seriously wonder how those people have gotten along this far in life.

Rupert Pupkin 10-23-2012 03:12 AM

I don't care what you guys say. Obama supporters are definitely smarter and know the issues better. Here is proof on this video:

http://realclearpolitics.com/video/2...ters_2012.html

MaTH716 10-23-2012 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 897607)
That's Mr. Gigolo to you.


Dahoss 10-23-2012 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 897615)
I don't care what you guys say. Obama supporters are definitely smarter and know the issues better. Here is proof on this video:

http://realclearpolitics.com/video/2...ters_2012.html

This came out like a month ago.

But, yeah....there are idiots on both sides.

Rudeboyelvis 10-23-2012 10:03 AM

Classy Obama supporters back out in full force on Twitter threatening riots (surely not race-based) and assassinations :

http://www.infowars.com/obama-suppor...sinate-romney/

Coach Pants 10-23-2012 10:18 AM

Typical Obama Supporter...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fYCh-7O5c4

Dahoss 10-23-2012 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 897642)
Classy Obama supporters back out in full force on Twitter threatening riots (surely not race-based) and assassinations :

http://www.infowars.com/obama-suppor...sinate-romney/

Not excusing this at all. It's unfortunate, but also one of the realities of the internet. It gives everyone a chance to show how stupid they are.

I know you realize this, but some act as though it's one sided. There are a lot of ignorant people on both sides who do the same thing. Which reminds me of one of my favorite clips from Bill Maher's show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfdEt...eature=related

The guy who hates the government for not showing him anything, who also gets food stamps that he "deserves" needs a reality show.

Danzig 10-23-2012 10:58 AM

agree with hoss. when athletes get death threats because they screw up a play, you know the world is full of morons. the trick is knowing who is just talking ish, and who means it. ah, the internet. makes some so brave. :rolleyes:

Danzig 10-23-2012 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 897644)
Not excusing this at all. It's unfortunate, but also one of the realities of the internet. It gives everyone a chance to show how stupid they are.

I know you realize this, but some act as though it's one sided. There are a lot of ignorant people on both sides who do the same thing. Which reminds me of one of my favorite clips from Bill Maher's show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfdEt...eature=related

The guy who hates the government for not showing him anything, who also gets food stamps that he "deserves" needs a reality show.

'put gawd back in the saddle'. lol

reminds me of the kimmel clips where they asked people 'who won the first lady debate?'. so people gave answers, acting as tho they'd watched a debate that didn't even happen. people kill me.

Rudeboyelvis 10-23-2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 897644)
Not excusing this at all. It's unfortunate, but also one of the realities of the internet. It gives everyone a chance to show how stupid they are.

I know you realize this, but some act as though it's one sided. There are a lot of ignorant people on both sides who do the same thing. Which reminds me of one of my favorite clips from Bill Maher's show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfdEt...eature=related

The guy who hates the government for not showing him anything, who also gets food stamps that he "deserves" needs a reality show.

The divisiveness and polarization of the voting class is exactly what the power elite needs to maintain control of the lawmakers. This is all a scripted play to divide and conquer via 500 channels of television that all say the same thing. Blah Blah Blah I'm right!!! No Blah Blah Blah, I"M RIGHT!!!...

Tards like Riot and Joey are cookie cutter pols that serve no purpose but to bicker amongst themselves in order to turn the attention away fro the real issues that face this country. They were created and are controlled by the media, and are too simple to realize it. The dolts on these videos and on Twitter are the same extention, only dumber.

Meanwhile, due process evaporates, the Constitution gets flushed down the sh1tter because it is "inconvenient", and the bickering just gets louder.

Brilliant.

Riot 10-23-2012 11:38 AM

Shocked Iranians woke up this morning to find their country landlocked and on Syria’s border.

Riot 10-23-2012 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 897650)
Tards like Riot and Joey are cookie cutter pols that serve no purpose but to bicker amongst themselves in order to turn the attention away fro the real issues that face this country. .

You calling other people "tards" is beyond hilarious, especially you pontificating about "real issues that face this country", when the post you make after the debate is Alex Jones! fear-mongering about black Obama supporters rioting if he loses.

Riot 10-23-2012 11:45 AM

So, Obama is re-elected, the Senate is held, and the only question now is if the Democrats take the House, too.

Oh, wait - Donald Trump has an "election changing bombshell" he'll be dropping Wednesday :D

Riot 10-23-2012 11:53 AM




joeydb 10-23-2012 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 897647)
agree with hoss. when athletes get death threats because they screw up a play, you know the world is full of morons. the trick is knowing who is just talking ish, and who means it. ah, the internet. makes some so brave. :rolleyes:

Even better example is when meteorologists are getting threatened for predicting snow again after a few blizzards.

Riot 10-23-2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 897662)
Even better example is when meteorologists are getting threatened for predicting snow again after a few blizzards.

Please ... there have always been idiots on the internet threatening to kill this person or that person.

The joy with watching some troll do it to Romney or Obama is that the Secret Service takes it seriously, and visits them for a little talk :D


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