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MaTH716 10-03-2012 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 893821)
Yeah I agree. He reminded me of Bush 41 looking at his watch.

Geez i wonder if Riot is okay. Thought she'd have started at least one thread by now.

It's okay to cry. :D

If she's looking for a pie chart or a graph explaining how Obama won that debate, she's going to be gone for quite awhile.

richard burch 10-03-2012 10:13 PM

obama looked like he didn't want to be there. disinterested.

he probably was filling out his fantasy picks for sunday.

mitt is just a douche. i hope next time he starts arranging the money in his wallet according to denomination while mr. o is talking about unemployment.

my miss storm cat 10-03-2012 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by richard burch (Post 893823)
obama looked like he didn't want to be there. disinterested.

he probably was filling out his fantasy picks for sunday.

mitt is just a douche. i hope next time he starts arranging the money in his wallet according to denomination while mr. o is talking about unemployment.

Hahahaha I was beginning to worry about you cause you are ALWAYS so incredibly nice.

Good stuff. :D

dagolfer33 10-03-2012 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 893816)
was there any portion of the debate, any topic, that anyone feels obama was stronger on than his opponent?

Obama was better at comparing Obamacare to Romneycare than Romey was comparing Romneycare to Obamacare.:zz:

Calzone Lord 10-03-2012 10:26 PM

The betting market moved pretty solidly Romney's way.

Obama is still about a 1-to-4 favorite, however.

Here's how much debates matter -- Gov Jan Brewer won re-election in Arizona after this amazing opener:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxjPGp3BoXg

Ocala Mike 10-03-2012 10:27 PM

who won the debate?
 
A gutterball for Obama.


My zingers:

Before the debate was half over, I swear I heard someone in the crowd going "Tebow, Tebow...!"

DNC was looking for an empty chair to replace Obama with.

Scorecard:

Big Bird A
Romney C+
Lehrer D
Obama F

declansharbor 10-03-2012 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 893813)
That was the second suicide Fox televised this week

**Golf clap** :tro:

Ocala Mike 10-03-2012 10:30 PM

who won the debate?
 
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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 893797)
This is tough to watch. Disgusted with my country.

Biden/Ryan next week; you ain't seen nuthin' yet. Get the barf bags ready!

declansharbor 10-03-2012 10:44 PM

How many of the 7 Obama votes were cast before the debate? I hope, for their sake, all 7 were. No reason for them to own eyes or ears if not!

sham 10-03-2012 10:59 PM

Romney by 35 lengths in 2:23 flat.

joeydb 10-03-2012 11:24 PM

It was more like a public execution. Romney destroyed him.

pointmanscousin 10-03-2012 11:39 PM

Think of it this way, it really will clear it all for you.....Obama is OJ Simpson.The greater mass of voters are made up of Simpson's jury;and he knows it.


See?

pointmanscousin 10-03-2012 11:43 PM

Forgot to mention, once Rita gets out of the decompression chamber....she will remember her parallel is Johnnie Cochran and she'll get all revved up again.

GBBob 10-04-2012 05:25 AM

Obama played this like a golfer needing a 9 on a par 3 to win. Hit the ball 50 yds, hit the ball 50 yds, etc. This was the most dangerous debate for him and the one that Romney HAD to "win" so it played out that way. I think he will be much more aggressive in the next two because he's on more solid ground and Romney isn't.

King Glorious 10-04-2012 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 893840)
Obama played this like a golfer needing a 9 on a par 3 to win. Hit the ball 50 yds, hit the ball 50 yds, etc. This was the most dangerous debate for him and the one that Romney HAD to "win" so it played out that way. I think he will be much more aggressive in the next two because he's on more solid ground and Romney isn't.

That's the feeling I got. I felt going in that there was no way Obama would win this. It's Ray Allen getting into a three point shooting contest with Dwight Howard. Ray has nothing to lose and anything short of a 10-0 or 9-1 win for him would be considered a failure. Let him win 6-5 or 7-5 and everyone will walk away feeling like Howard won. I don't think Romney said much of anything during the debate but what he did was appear much more aggresive and confident and those are important attributes in a leader. Obama clearly lost this debate tonight in the court of public opinion even if he didn't on the issues. I also think that he played a little "rope-a-dope" with Romney and let him fire a few too many of his bullets early and will use Romney's famous flip-flopping on issues to his advantage next time.

GBBob 10-04-2012 06:00 AM

They should have also just done a WWF and thrown the ref out of the ring because Jim Lehrer was pretty much useless in the squared circle.

jms62 10-04-2012 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 893840)
Obama played this like a golfer needing a 9 on a par 3 to win. Hit the ball 50 yds, hit the ball 50 yds, etc. This was the most dangerous debate for him and the one that Romney HAD to "win" so it played out that way. I think he will be much more aggressive in the next two because he's on more solid ground and Romney isn't.

If Obama couldnt get it done with all the Openings he had then he isnt going to get it done elsewhere. While Romney was crowing about his 25 years business expierence why did Obama not counter with 25 years of shipping jobs out of the country, firing people, leverging companies up to their eyeballs in debt, paying yourself first, etc. When Romney talked about not funding PBS why did Obama not counter with there you go again, now you are firing Big Bird for a tax cut to reward the 1% while saddling the middle class with higher taxes. I can go on and on. He blew thhe break big time.

Danzig 10-04-2012 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by richard burch (Post 893823)
obama looked like he didn't want to be there. disinterested.

he probably was filling out his fantasy picks for sunday.

mitt is just a douche. i hope next time he starts arranging the money in his wallet according to denomination while mr. o is talking about unemployment.

:tro::D

Danzig 10-04-2012 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 893844)
If Obama couldnt get it done with all the Openings he had then he isnt going to get it done elsewhere. While Romney was crowing about his 25 years business expierence why did Obama not counter with 25 years of shipping jobs out of the country, firing people, leverging companies up to their eyeballs in debt, paying yourself first, etc. When Romney talked about not funding PBS why did Obama not counter with there you go again, now you are firing Big Bird for a tax cut to reward the 1% while saddling the middle class with higher taxes. I can go on and on. He blew thhe break big time.

yeah, he had numerous chances to blow mitt away, but didn't. and i don't get why.

and i agree with bob, jim lehrer was like a replacement ref and the two players just pretty much ignored him.

Danzig 10-04-2012 07:07 AM

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...uch_more_.html

slate debate 'awards'

For Best False Praise: The least believable line from Obama all night: “You've done a great job, Jim.”


http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...formance_.html


and on the odds for obama:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...tumbling_.html


a 'decisive victory' for romney.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...hallenger.html



Part of the problem was that Obama got on the wrong side of what the Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza calls the “fine line between sober/serious and grim/uninterested.” He seemed to be taking on the same persona that worked for him in 2008 when he was an untested leader and was eager to prove he was ready for the job. “But now that he has been in the job for four years, Obama’s demeanor came across far less well.” The Chicago Tribune throws Obama what might be the ultimate insult, describing him as “that guy at the meeting who’s surreptitiously checking his email.”


one down, two to go. romney may have won the debate, but will it help him in the real battle?

Danzig 10-04-2012 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 893831)
How many of the 7 Obama votes were cast before the debate? I hope, for their sake, all 7 were. No reason for them to own eyes or ears if not!

if you read the initial post, you'll see that the poll was supposed to be voted on before the debate. so, yes, they were all cast early.

dagolfer33 10-04-2012 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by pointmanscousin (Post 893838)
Forgot to mention, once Rita gets out of the decompression chamber....she will remember her parallel is Johnnie Cochran and she'll get all revved up again.

A few conspiracy theories.....After watching the debate and realizing Ritt Mormoney will be the next prez, Riot fled to Canada or jumped a jet to France. Or some Republican mobsters are running her thru a meat grinder somewhere. Or, some of those aliens from Close Encounters abducted her. After all, everyone knows they only snatch Democrats.

geeker2 10-04-2012 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 893840)
Obama played this like a golfer needing a 9 on a par 3 to win. Hit the ball 50 yds, hit the ball 50 yds, etc. This was the most dangerous debate for him and the one that Romney HAD to "win" so it played out that way. I think he will be much more aggressive in the next two because he's on more solid ground and Romney isn't.

5 0-5-0 I am sure he will win next time ;):D

declansharbor 10-04-2012 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 893850)
if you read the initial post, you'll see that the poll was supposed to be voted on before the debate. so, yes, they were all cast early.

I read the first post, which initially said the poll closes at 9pm, which it DIDN'T, which is why I asked.

Rudeboyelvis 10-04-2012 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 893842)
They should have also just done a WWF and allowed Bill Clinton to tag in

FTFY Bob ;)

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-04-2012 08:31 AM

blame the moderator..obama had 2 more min than romney..and still looked stupid.im pretty sure riot has spoken to him..and he will come back strong..:rolleyes:

Rudeboyelvis 10-04-2012 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 893856)
blame the moderator..obama had 2 more min than romney..and still looked stupid.im pretty sure riot has spoken to him..and he will come back strong..:rolleyes:

It will be more like "You see, none are you are smart enough to see that Obama won the debate handily. If you knew anything or read the websites I read, you would clearly see that. Poor ignorant people."

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-04-2012 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 893857)
It will be more like "You see, none are you are smart enough to see that Obama won the debate handily. If you knew anything or read the websites I read, you would clearly see that. Poor ignorant people."

:tro::tro::tro:

cant wait to see the bobble head bieden get cut to shreds..

Dahoss 10-04-2012 09:16 AM

While obviously Romney "won" the debate, did he really say anything last night? He was better at one liners and was able to fall back on Obama's 4 years as President which is an obvious advantage.

But what did he actually say that would influence someone on the fence about who to vote for? I ask this genuinely, because all I saw was someone who is a better debater, but his ideas still don't make much sense and won't benefit those of us who aren't millionaires.

Coach Pants 10-04-2012 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 893840)
Obama played this like a golfer needing a 9 on a par 3 to win. Hit the ball 50 yds, hit the ball 50 yds, etc. This was the most dangerous debate for him and the one that Romney HAD to "win" so it played out that way. I think he will be much more aggressive in the next two because he's on more solid ground and Romney isn't.

Just like the economy recovered last year.

You couldn't be any more wrong. Why is it taking you so long to grow up, Bob? Why are you still the typical left-right true believing idiot?

It's embarrassing. Do we have to devolve to caves in order for you to wake up?

What more needs to happen for you globally to realize neither of these cocksuckers we have to choose from can make things better?

What you''re doing is nothing more than insanity.

jms62 10-04-2012 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 893861)
While obviously Romney "won" the debate, did he really say anything last night? He was better at one liners and was able to fall back on Obama's 4 years as President which is an obvious advantage.

But what did he actually say that would influence someone on the fence about who to vote for? I ask this genuinely, because all I saw was someone who is a better debater, but his ideas still don't make much sense and won't benefit those of us who aren't millionaires.

I haven't seen a performance like Obama's since the Bills went up 21-7 in the 3rd quarter this past weekend. He had all the bullets but didn't fire them.

Rudeboyelvis 10-04-2012 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 893861)
While obviously Romney "won" the debate, did he really say anything last night? He was better at one liners and was able to fall back on Obama's 4 years as President which is an obvious advantage.

But what did he actually say that would influence someone on the fence about who to vote for? I ask this genuinely, because all I saw was someone who is a better debater, but his ideas still don't make much sense and won't benefit those of us who aren't millionaires.

It's nothing more than a circus sideshow anyway. They make a million promises and break every single one of them once in office, and are never held accountable.

Romney swears that your impression stated above is not true, and believes that the Obama campaign is responsible for distorting the truth about his positions.

whatevah.

They did exactly what politicians do best - they talked for 2 hours and said nothing.


I'm just glad we finally got to see them discuss-debate serious issues facing our nation;

Civil liberties, privacy rights, due process, Wall Street crime....





Oh wait. :(:(

Dahoss 10-04-2012 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 893864)

They did exactly what politicians do best - they talked for 2 hours and said nothing.


I'm just glad we finally got to see them discuss-debate serious issues facing our nation;

Civil liberties, privacy rights, due process, Wall Street crime.... Oh wait.

You said this better than I tried to.

They both said nothing at all. So it kind of confusing to me why people are excited after last. It's like, "YAY!!! Our guy was a better liar last night, let's e-high five and act excited about our guy being not so bad last night."

Kind of mind boggling.

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-04-2012 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 893866)
You said this better than I tried to.

They both said nothing at all. So it kind of confusing to me why people are excited after last. It's like, "YAY!!! Our guy was a better liar last night, let's e-high five and act excited about our guy being not so bad last night."

Kind of mind boggling.

i guess its true what your saying..but after 12 months of riot ..just a glimmer of romeny doing better is cause for some yay.in the end it wont matter..hey keeneland starts friday..YAY !!

jms62 10-04-2012 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 893867)
i guess its true what your saying..but after 12 months of riot ..just a glimmer of romeny doing better is cause for some yay.in the end it wont matter..hey keeneland starts friday..YAY !!

Keenland will do more harm to my bankroll then Romney's "Tax Cut"

Dahoss 10-04-2012 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 893867)
i guess its true what your saying..but after 12 months of riot ..just a glimmer of romeny doing better is cause for some yay.in the end it wont matter..hey keeneland starts friday..YAY !!

I get the Riot stuff, trust me, so point taken.

But I don't know how someone can watch that last night and be excited about our future as a country going forward. Just the opposite for me.

sham 10-04-2012 09:44 AM

Mayo is $6 bucks a jar. Gas is $4 dollars a gallon. 20 million Americans can't find a job and many have been looking for years. Half of college grads can't find work. The national debt is $16 trillion. The feds are printing money like crazy and robbing everyone's net worth. US credit has been downgraded for the first time ever and may soon drop again. The middle East is on fire. AND Iran is about to get nukes. Obama will not look good in any debate because he is running against himself this time ... not against W. Bush. The gig is up for the boy who would be king. Ironically, the winner of this election may be the real loser historically because the US economy may collapse into a deep, deep depression worse than the Great Depression of the 30's during the next presidential term.

Danzig 10-04-2012 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 893861)
While obviously Romney "won" the debate, did he really say anything last night? He was better at one liners and was able to fall back on Obama's 4 years as President which is an obvious advantage.

But what did he actually say that would influence someone on the fence about who to vote for? I ask this genuinely, because all I saw was someone who is a better debater, but his ideas still don't make much sense and won't benefit those of us who aren't millionaires.

yeah, that's what i'm thinking. he may have won the debate itself-but exactly what does that mean? does it do anything, provide anything, sway anyone? you can win a 100 of those, doesn't mean you'll win the vote.

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 893869)
I get the Riot stuff, trust me, so point taken.

But I don't know how someone can watch that last night and be excited about our future as a country going forward. Just the opposite for me.


exactly.

Danzig 10-04-2012 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 893853)
I read the first post, which initially said the poll closes at 9pm, which it DIDN'T, which is why I asked.

gotcha.
yeah, every vote was for obama.

until the debate.

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-04-2012 09:52 AM

cant say im thrilled about the future..but id like to see a new liar give it a shot.


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