Based on the majority of his posts, I would be willing to bet that he actually has received (probably several) blows to the head with pucks and maybe other various objects.

:D


i just wanna know how hockey devolved to baseball...i mean, i could understand boxing, but baseball?!

I can somewhat understand the concept that players will police themselves and be less reckless if ALL players were to play without helmets. Having said that, if you gave the players a choice today, I would be astonished if anyone would willingly give up their lid to play without ANY head protection, and none of this should be a discussion b/c the NHL is going the exact opposite way of that anyways, trying to mandate visors like in JR’s and the AHL. Personally, not in favor of mandated visors, players who don’t wear one take that risk, willingly. You can’t compare Bobby Orr to Sidney Crosby, it can’t be done. Look at the pads they wore back then, shoulder pads might have been a flannel short, shin pads were rolled up newspapers, sticks, don’t even get me started… speed, again, night and day, strength not even in the same ballpark. What worked then, won’t work now, PERIOD.
And even though helmets don’t always prevent stupid sh!t from happening (see Patrick Swayze in Youngblood), they’re a must in this day and age


-bt-

Awesome pull Mr. Thomas! :tro:

5 teeth shattered and a broken upper jaw (very painful) at the age of 14 by cruising behind the net during warm-ups, before putting my helmet and cage on. I prefer wearing helmets and suggest it strongly on the ice.

Jon Lester is quite a bit better than Bill Lee.

Since we've already strayed far off the original topic, for the 3 years that Lee was a healthy starting pitcher in Boston (1973,74,&75) he won 17 games each year, completing 51 of his 104 starts. He broke his arm in the 1975 infamous brawl against the Yankees, and was never the same again.

players been locked out, and i care.
why, if you don't care, would you hit on a thread titled 'nhl'???

Bill Lee had one really good year 1973
He was pretty good in 74 and 75 but Lester has had 4 seasons better than these years. Lee had a lot of complete games but that wasnt unusual then and he was 10th in the league in 1973 and 9th in 1975. He actually had his 2nd best season with Montreal in 1979 and pitched relatively effectively from 77-79 considering he had lost his durability and couldnt strikeout anyone.

Lee and teammate Rick Wise had eerily similar numbers in 1975
Lee had 17 wins, 35 starts, 3.95 era, 1.32 WHIP, 260 IP, 272 hits and 69 BB's
Wise has 19 wins, 34 starts, 3.95 era, 1.31 WHIP, 255 IP, 262 hits and 72 BB's.

It isnt a strike

should have included their hitting stats, as both could really swing the stick, especially Wise. Kind of like how I hit about .600 when i was pitching, probably cause we were gonna need plenty of runs to win, since I was pitching.

no. we'll be there when it cranks back up.

Guy Boucher shoots a perfect first pitch strike.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaoETTsJ1tc

Excuse me! This is a thread about HOCKEY, not baseball.

expected to pass press conference at noon
 

players and owners to vote on a new "No Helmet Hockey League" the NHHL

Looks like they are closing in on a deal 50/50 revenue split...... If settled soon still 82 game season starting 11/2.

i hope they get it all settled and quickly. i was actually watching khl the other day.....

Well, not often my team grabs headlines, but I am very happy to hear of the Islanders move to Brooklyn. Obviously would have preferred a new building in Nassau or Suffolk, but it beats rooting for the KC or Quebec City Islanders. I also think it will be easier to sign free agents in future because there no longer is uncertainty where the team will be playing in 2015 and they aren't going to be playing in a relic anymore.

Nassau Veterens Memorial Coliseum. saw many a good Grateful Dead show there. Met Jerry after a spring tour show. Black Blazer and Guitar in tow.

My family had season tickets from '72 until I left for school in 82..saw some really bad hockey then some truly amazing hockey in that time. The building will always be "Fort Neverlose" to me, but it is time to go.

how's the strike going?

I miss these guys

hilarious

new offer from the nhl to the players...hoping for some good news!

How many strikes are you guys going to endure before you say fuk this ****. I packed it in back in 95

i love hockey. when it comes back, i'll be watching-just like football.

It isnt a strike.

Seriously? Does the reason matter? Season interruptus is a strike to me. I really could care less who drops the gloves first.

Well it isnt a strike so calling it one would be incorrect.

yeah, i like to tell people that when they ask 'why hockey'? there aren't many fans down here at all.
i prefer watching football on tv. hockey is best live. good stuff. i'm definitely suffering withdrawals.
my daughter came by the other day-i had on vermont vs maine. she teased me about it. 'college hockey, mom?!' yeah! it's hockey!

Union Busting..

the truth, finally

Do people earning an average of 2.4 MILLION dollars a year really need a union?

I predict this will get settled within the next 10 days. Both sides realize losing a full season is MORONIC.

The deal the players will have to settle for won't be great, but it's not like it will get better next year after missing a full season.

I agree that player salaries are relatively enormous, and that cutting them by any relatively small percentage won't hurt anyone tremendously. But what will be accomplished is the big market owners will benefit GREATLY, while the teams, and thereby the fans of said teams, will be hurt significantly. Because with the lower salary cap, top big market teams won't be able to keep their top players.

And without any significant profit sharing, the smaller markets will still struggle.

This is what Boston's Jeremy Jacobs is ring-leading.

But for the players, there is no alternative.

Based on the last 10 years of behavior by the owners and commissioner, absolutely.

I dont understand the infatution with salaries. Whatever the players get is fair. No one holds a gun to owners heads to sign them. The biggest fallacy there is in sports is that fans costs go up because of higher salaries. That is nonsense. The prices go up to whatever the market will bear regarless of expenses. When salaries are cut no ticket discounts are given

The point you are missing here is the sides are ridiculously close on most issues right now. Bettman was furious that Fehr, a pro, wouldn't simply cave in on the other "non-negotiable" issues once the 50/50 issue was approved. The major problems now are length of CBA (Bettman wants 10 years, Fehr wants 5), and max length of contracts (Bettman wants 5, Fehr has offered 7).

These would seem to be easily negotiated to a compromise, no?

So we aren't in a situation where the players need to "take whatever is offered".

Which is why it seems so obvious that this will be settled shortly..... Or not:o

i'm hopeful that a deal will be reached soon. recent moves have been positive, so i'm hoping for the best at this point.