I have been a fan of this horse since the 2002 Belmont; I played Sarava and an exacta with Perfect Drift. Too bad it was Medaglia D'Oro who came second. Eddie D could not deliver for me on Perfect Drift. He beat my boy Mineshaft in a Grade I in Kentucky getting weight from the champ and a better ride. I admire this old warrior, but Giacomo will be flying late; both will be looking at Bernardini's rear.

I don't think it is a stretch at all to say that Perfect Drift doesn't belong in the Classic considering he hasn't run a triple digit Beyer all year. Most people would toss a horse from consideration in the Derby under those circumstances so saying he doesn't belong in the Classic seems pretty reasonable. He was a very nice horse that accomplished some wonderful things but he just isn't BC Classic material anymore.

Jul Lep is your next superstar. Also I think Eibar Coa will eventually be at the top. Little by little Coa is moving up steadily.

The horse runs 9 times out of ten in one of the top three spots in the best of company even, and you all think he shouldn't be in the Classic?

I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and you can call me crazy if ya want. But I think you doubters are the crazy ones.

I agree, Buffy. Let them all eat crow later on...

Ignoring the grass form he lost by a nose to Seek Gold, 5 lengths to Suave, and ran up the track in the Pacific Classic. A repeat of any of those efforts will not get him top ten in the Classic. Last year he ran those three races with Beyers of 102/102/112. This year he went 99/96/not sure of the PC figure but it wasn't good. There is a lot of evidence that he isn't close to the horse he was last year.

He's like a horse in Gallop Racer who is clearly on he downward slope.

This " I love Perfect Drift, he's so wonderful, how dare you criticize him " argument is pretty lame....to say the least.

I am curious....how much money will those defending him be betting on him in the Classic? Isn't that really all that really matters? If you can't defend 'em at the windows you can't defend them here.

I can defend him all I want. I think he belongs in the race. That is my opinion. Just because I normally don't bet, doesn't mean diddly doo-doo. I handicap races just like you guys do. Saving to buy my own horse which takes precedent over the betting on horseracing. Just cause I don't put money down, doesn't mean a person can't handicap a race.

I am not going to argue. Either you or I will be eating crow after the classic. But since you don't think he belongs in the race, then when he finishes in one of the top three spots, don't be acting like "I told you so".

I'll wager that you and I will NOT be eating crow after the BCC, Buffy. :D

I like that game Gallop Racer...All of the horses that have trained so far have sucked...The foal that I named Winning Colors was DEFINITELY not Winning Colors...All of the horses that I have bought though have been excellent and I have ridden a bunch of GI winners.:D I agree with you about Perfect Drift, although I think that they should take a shot with him in the BCC. However, I don't think that the horse is what he used to be. And yes, if I'm wrong, I'll eat crow:D

I have no life so I've played it like 12 million times. I actually once bred the perfect horse.....125 on both grass and dirt.

and this -he doesnt belong in the bcc is pretty lame on your part to say the least. i could give a rats ass if you criticize him, thats what a message board is for, to speak your mind and me mine. your op on him being in the bcc means jack he's earned his right until proven otherwise, like i said on big days he runs big races even if he doesnt win, and yes black ,i will be putting my money were my mouth is

those speed figs are not his best i agree, but if you follow drift you would know he runs to the level of his competition and will run run much better then those figs in the bcc.no this this year is not as good as previous but let me say this it could look a whole lot different in those races you mentioned. a grade 1 missed less then a nose, ran as well this year to win the wph as last year when he won and hit a horse in suave who ran a freak race.and the del mar is the one i cant figure out, that was not drift at all in that race.he never breaks that slow and falls that far behind the field-EVER. was his worst race he ever ran in his life. i do know this, the horse after the race was still full of energy and full of himself and the connections were not that happy with guidry, very suspect run out of him at del mar , has never ran and had to come from that far out of it in any of his other races. throw that pc out

PERFECT DRIFT=$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ period

buffy, tell him to keep on taking a hit !!!!!!!!!

excuses for what? that he shouldnt be in the bcc this year? thats what im debating , not if hes going to win it. so he doesnt win does that mean he doesnt belong in the claasic? thats what im debating here. and those are legit reasons to be in the bcc.

glad your on board!!!!!!!:)

Perfect 3rd Place:p

My point about excuses were simply in reference to what i always hear about perfect drift. "it was only a nose" or "if the jockey had started him sooner". That kind of thing.

How many jockeys is the horse on now? They dont like Guidry. They didnt like Desormeaux. I guess they didnt like Gary Stevens either.

As far as him not "belonging", i dont agree with that. He belongs in there to have a shot at a minor placing. To win? You are just giving your money away if you bet him to win at this point. I will defiinitely have him underneath though in tris and supers.

I agree with Buffy Perfect drift has shown up and ran as hard as he could for alot longer than some horses out there so let him run and to be honest I dont expect him to win , but I want him to and I will always when he is running place a wager on him to win because I feel he deserves respect just because hes still running and trying.

I think I like you... :p

Honestly, I took offense to those that said he didn't belong in the race. Nothing wrong with running for second or third place money. I have faith that he may win it! I always do.

He can run in whatever spot he wants but he simply has no shot whatsoever and based on his performances this year, you know...his current form, he does not belong in the race anymore than Funny Cide does.

Sorry if his fan club/cheerleaders don't like this but it's the truth. He will be in the 40-1 vicinity in this year's BC Classic without a significant rash of injuries.

I'm wondering if the Euros will make any impact in the Cup in the Classic.
They don't run very often, most of the time running the big guns in the Turf.
But they have been represented quite well with some longshots who hit the board and even won one with Arcangues.
I remember Ibn Bey running 2nd to Unbridled at about 60-1. Arcangues winning at 99-1. Also remember Jolypha(a filly) running 3rd to Ap Indy.
Sakhee got beat a nose to Tiznow. Of course there is always the famous Swain debacle where he was the best in the race and Dettori kept windmill whipping until he was on the outer fence. They have been represented quite well and usually with their 2nd tier horses.
I think more of them would have been factors had they tried the Classic.
The extra week later that its being run this year should help them, as well as a climate that will be very close to what they are leaving from at home.
With the older division falling apart and not many bonafide contenders, it wouldn't shock me if Euros had an impact in the Classic this year.

David Junior has the pedigree and the talent for the race, but due to the way he is being campaigned I hope he runs last. Terrible message it would send to others who want to run in the race in the future and I'm glad the connections of Dylan Thomas are prepping him on dirt beforehand.

You're entitled to your opinion. I just think he's just as qualified as most of the other mules running in this race and he deserves a shot. He seems to love hitting the board and if he goes off at 40-1, I hope he does hit the board.

why does he necessarily need a dirt prep? Giants causeway did just fine without one.

OK, maybe not a dirt prep, but at least a race beforehand. When was his last start, when he beat Ouiji Board early summer? And sorry, but Giant's Causeway and David Junior are not in the same league.

Whoops!!! I forgot to mention Giants Causeway under Euros who ran well.

Leparoux.......
 

Julian Leparoux is no question one of the best young jockeys in the sport, is will no doubt give Perfect Drift a smart trip. This horse is all heart, always gives a fine effort, and will be a factor on BC day. BC day this year is shaping up to be one of the most exciting in history, each field should be stacked with competitive horses. Want to see how Lava Man looks in his prep, he's been one of the best stories of the year, and lookin forward to seeing him run on BC day among others LOL!

Not sure what all the fuss is about. I saw him blow quite a few rides at Saratoga this summer. I know hes very young still with super potential. But I was more impressed with Garret Gomez than Frenchy. Need to see more, tab for later..

Perfect Drift was ridden by several Hall of Fame jockeys who could not get him to the winner's circle. I think the horse has never really liked to win, going back to the days of Eddie D. He can only win the Classic if the entire race is just bizarre. I see Giacomo at the finish line near him. However, I like Bernardini on top of a bunch of longshots, including Perfect Drift and Giacomo.

Senior Citizen Appentice!
 

Anyone know the oldest jock to win the eclipse award? Just curious

Im not sure, but i think it was shoe winning at the age of 50.

drift is still more competitive the cide right now and you know that.

Sorry I ment for an apprentice, damn shoe was the MAN!!!:D

Thats because Funny Cide knows he has one of these already!

http://www.doylenewyork.com/pr/Kentu...tic_prince.jpg