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jms62 05-26-2012 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conrad (Post 863927)
I bet the connectons of the #1 want that 3rd place purse money though. What happens in that event? A non starter for wagering purposes but still eligible for purse money?

What they probably do is **** the bettor... They have a history of it

Coach Pants 05-26-2012 03:36 PM

Rushing to beat the storms. They need to fire the queen who obsesses over that f.ucking turf course.

DJARUM 05-26-2012 03:36 PM

lots of unhappy people that race, DQ'?

jms62 05-26-2012 03:39 PM

DQ'd for breaking through the starting gate??? Are you kidding me?

Coach Pants 05-26-2012 03:41 PM

They can't clean up this mess. The rain is coming omg!!! Thanks douches.

DJARUM 05-26-2012 03:44 PM

"While it could be argued Mystical Star was at a disadvantage, it is a rule that she needed to be DQ'd. Unfortunate for sure." Quote from D Grening

Coach Pants 05-26-2012 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 863917)
1st $143

Thanks geeker!

Monmouth 8
$15 wp 3

1st $76.50

Monmouth 9
$10 wps 3

jms62 05-26-2012 03:47 PM

Mth 9

20 Win 3

Coach Pants 05-26-2012 03:51 PM

Going to take a quick break. Feel the slide coming if I don't.

pointman 05-26-2012 03:53 PM

I'm not really sure what else they could do. The 1 was a valid DQ as he started before the others regardless of him rearing up. The 2 was a valid non-starter as the starter had a hold of his bridle. There is no jurisdiction in the country as fair as NY in declaring non-starters. I disagree that NY has the worst rules in the country, FL is far worse for one.

Bel 9

$20W 14
$20DD 14/6,8

jms62 05-26-2012 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 863944)
I'm not really sure what else they could do. The 1 was a valid DQ as he started before the others regardless of him rearing up. The 2 was a valid non-starter as the starter had a hold of his bridle. There is no jurisdiction in the country as fair as NY in declaring non-starters. I disagree that NY has the worst rules in the country, FL is far worse for one.

Bel 9

$20W 14
$20DD 14/6,8

Why did they start the race?

Coach Pants 05-26-2012 03:56 PM

The right thing to do is pay a guy to hold a flag at the start of the turn to let the jockeys know a dq has happened. This is what occurs in real sports. A gun shot, flag etc. ANYTHING.

That was ridiculous. Amateur hour. For a stakes race for crying out loud. During a pick 4 where they advertise and entice guarantees.

Embarrassing.

pointman 05-26-2012 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 863945)
Why did they start the race?

Obviously the starter and the guys in the gate were not in sync. But. I don't see what else they should do. Other jurisdictions may have let the result stand which is not fair either. I guess you can argue they should have voided the race and refunded as Coach said, but I can count the number of times that has happened on one hand. Maybe the State will use this race as an excuse to fully revoke NYRA's franchise.

Mike 05-26-2012 04:09 PM

Hooh Why here in the Matron at Arlington

jms62 05-26-2012 04:14 PM

ap 7
5 Dd 5,7/5,7

jms62 05-26-2012 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 863947)
Obviously the starter and the guys in the gate were not in sync. But. I don't see what else they should do. Other jurisdictions may have let the result stand which is not fair either. I guess you can argue they should have voided the race and refunded as Coach said, but I can count the number of times that has happened on one hand. Maybe the State will use this race as an excuse to fully revoke NYRA's franchise.

A rule is a rule so I have to live with it but they need to take a look at that rule. The bettor should not be punished for a ****up by starter or gate crew that wipes out the bettors interest at the start.

pointman 05-26-2012 04:24 PM

Bel 10

$20W 6
$0.10SUPB 6,8,9,11,12

pointman 05-26-2012 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arizonadave (Post 863954)
I think the DQ was bad, it should have been a non starter.looked as though the gate crew guy was still holding the #1 horse as he broke through the gate.

I didn't think the starter had a hold of the 1, but if you saw that then you are right the 1 should have been declared a non-starter. If there is a problem here I don't think it is the rule that is the problem, rather the interpretation of the stewards would be. I can't see how you can reward a horse who started before the others.

declansharbor 05-26-2012 04:33 PM

HOLLYWOOD r4

$10W $30P on 8

$4 ex

1,4,5 / 8

declansharbor 05-26-2012 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 863907)
Bel p4

.50¢
2,5,9,10,11 / 1,3,4,5 / 4,5,8 / 8,11

.50¢
2,5,10,11 / 4,5 / 5,10,12 / 11

Stings a little bc i came up w/ bupkus..

jms62 05-26-2012 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 863956)
I didn't think the starter had a hold of the 1, but if you saw that then you are right the 1 should have been declared a non-starter. If there is a problem here I don't think it is the rule that is the problem, rather the interpretation of the stewards would be. I can't see how you can reward a horse who started before the others.

A horse should NEVER get the chance to start ahead of the others. If the horse does then the starter didn't do his job.

pointman 05-26-2012 05:37 PM

Hol 6

$0.50-$75
6- 4,6,8
7- 2,4,5,8,12
8- 9,10
9- 1,2,3,6,11

$20DD 6/2,8,12

Scav 05-26-2012 05:39 PM

Arlington Last
 
Expecting #6 Ginnys Classic to run huge today. Trainer has wanted to run her a one turn mile since last year (mostly cause asking her to turn is asking too much), and has speed, she romps on class but really depends if new bit will work.

pointman 05-26-2012 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav (Post 863971)
Expecting #6 Ginnys Classic to run huge today. Trainer has wanted to run her a one turn mile since last year (mostly cause asking her to turn is asking too much), and has speed, she romps on class but really depends if new bit will work.

Nice call, at an overlayed price to boot! :$:

Just destroyed that field.

dagolfer33 05-26-2012 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav (Post 863971)
Expecting #6 Ginnys Classic to run huge today. Trainer has wanted to run her a one turn mile since last year (mostly cause asking her to turn is asking too much), and has speed, she romps on class but really depends if new bit will work.

...new bit seemed okay........:eek:

jms62 05-26-2012 05:59 PM

New "Bit" :rolleyes: made her look like Ruffian

Sethcarter 05-26-2012 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav (Post 863971)
Expecting #6 Ginnys Classic to run huge today. Trainer has wanted to run her a one turn mile since last year (mostly cause asking her to turn is asking too much), and has speed, she romps on class but really depends if new bit will work.

thanks, Scav.... :$:

Scav 05-26-2012 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sethcarter (Post 863976)
thanks, Scav.... :$:

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 863975)
New "Bit" :rolleyes: made her look like Ruffian

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 863974)
...new bit seemed okay........:eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 863973)
Nice call, at an overlayed price to boot! :$:

Just destroyed that field.

Thanks, she is an absolute nutcase but Richie does a real good job, she is the problem child of the stable.

Im curious if she got claimed, if she stays one turn she will win races, she just cant grasp her head around turning early in races

pointman 05-26-2012 06:09 PM

Hol 7

I don't get why the 8 is on the board at 52-1. Sure there are a couple of nice horses in here, but Harrington can have one ready first out and the work on the 18th was solid. Taking a flyer.

$20W 8
$20DD 8/9,10
$1TRI 4,5/1,2,4,5,8/1,2,4,5,8
$0.10SUPB 1,2,4,5,8

Coach Pants 05-26-2012 06:11 PM

Hollywood 7
$10 wps 13

pointman 05-26-2012 06:16 PM

So much for that theory, will put my $20W on the 2.

DJARUM 05-26-2012 06:36 PM

American Hdcp: exacta box Liberian Freighter/Mr Commons

Like Liberian Freighter with 1&2 for $3

Wow Wilkinson 44-1

pointman 05-26-2012 06:42 PM

Hol 8

$20W 9
$20QU 9/10
$5DD 9/2,6,11
$1SUP 9,10/1,2,9,10/1,2,9,10/1,2,9,10

Coach Pants 05-26-2012 06:43 PM

Hollywood 8
$25 wps 5

pointman 05-26-2012 06:56 PM

What a d'bag I am for not boxing that super. Saved it for a dime but that could have been a killing.

pointman 05-26-2012 07:14 PM

Hol 9

$20W 11
$1 EXB 2,6,11
$0.10SUPB 1,2,6,11,13
$1SUPHF 2,6,11/2,6,11/2,6,11/1,13/1,13

herkhorse 05-26-2012 07:19 PM

HWD 10

20 win 9
5 ex box 29

fpsoxfan 05-27-2012 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 863946)
The right thing to do is pay a guy to hold a flag at the start of the turn to let the jockeys know a dq has happened. This is what occurs in real sports. A gun shot, flag etc. ANYTHING.

That was ridiculous. Amateur hour. For a stakes race for crying out loud. During a pick 4 where they advertise and entice guarantees.

Embarrassing.

Agreed Coach! And the one thing that people are not mentioning in this whole debacle is the the fact despite rearing up and spotting the field a few lengths is this horse still almost ran second.


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