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Why yes, yes they did. Taconite can't make money unless Wisconsin legislators remove environmental protections, thus decreasing costs to the company, and giving them a free walk to mine without repercussion for their destruction. And ore prices are falling, making the company not want to go ahead even if the law was passed. And yes, the vote, for those that voted no, had quite a bit to do with the environment. You see, some people actually do care about that. I know that's hard for you to understand, that some are positive removing regulations regarding safety and environmental contamination protections really matters. You chose your side - the side of destruction. The majority chose the other side. Thank goodness. That's democracy. Yes, plutocrats and dictators hate that. |
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Can you answer my question? What is on the Wisconsin State Flag? |
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You might worry less about what is on the state flag, and more about what the Republicans want to put into the water you drink. |
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Please post your link from the company stating that they left because of dropping ore prices and not because of the vote. I see nothing but the opposite |
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Starting at the top of a shield on a dark blue field is the state motto "Forward". Below it is a badger the state animal. A sailor and miner show that the people work on water and land. The shield in the center shows Wisconsin's support for the United States. In four sections surrounding the shield are representations of the states main industries: Agriculture, mining, manufacturing and navigation. The cornucopia and pile of lead represent farm products and minerals. The flag law was amended in 1979 to include the name of the state and the date of statehood. |
"Well...uh mining was popular back when women were treated poorly so that means it's evil"
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Better to just face it: the majority voted down this bill whose only point was to strip mining regulations and environmental protections. The only way the company could make money was if those regulations - which cost money - were removed. They would not be. The company dropped out when the vote didn't fly through and the people of Wisconsin stood up to the rushed passage. Good for Wisconsin's environment, it's streams and rivers, it's people. Oh, yeah: especially the native Americans whose lands would be negatively impacted. This bill wasn't about jobs, it was about stripping the environment. Walker's Wisconsin is a disaster - month after month of massive job losses in the private sector as soon as Walker's budget kicked in. The inherited deficit still there. Walkers budget 140 million in the hole. Removal of worker rights in the face of complete cooperation regarding cutting pay and benefits. Walker is ruining Wisconsin faster than Lake Michigan can erode our family lakefront in Racine. Oh, yeah - I do care about Wisconsin, and how dare you arrogantly lecture me that I can not. |
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As I said, Taconite could only make money at this project by the stripping of all the expensive environmental regs. That's what the bill was trying to do. That is why the bill exists. As soon as the GOP couldn't shove the bill through, the company said they wouldn't pursue it, as ore prices were rising as the wait was occurring. And then the vote came up against them, anyway. |
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http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/142085663.html Looks like the DNR even agrees with the Republicans. That is AMAZING! |
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Here, Dell, Wiphan, Geeker - Scott Walker needs your $$
I don't have a link where you can donate. Post it when you get it.
-------------- As a result of the ongoing criminal investigation of his former aides and appointees, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) has set up a legal defense fund for the "John Doe" investigation of his time as Milwaukee county executive that has already ensnared several of his former staffers. The "John Doe" investigation has already resulted in misdemeanor and felony charges against six of Walker's top aides. The probe by the Milwaukee County district attorney’s office is reportedly focusing on whether staffers who worked for Walker did political work with taxpayer money. Walker is the first governor in Wisconsin history to establish a legal defense fund. Walker is also raising money to defend himself against recall efforts. On Friday, the state Government Accountability Board recommended setting a gubernatorial recall primary date of May 15, with the general election on June 12. Kristen Crowell, executive director of the labor-affiliated group We Are Wisconsin, called the dates an "unnecessary delay." From Walker's press release: Quote:
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[B]Scott Walker now under investigation in John Doe investigation[/B]
Scott Walker now under investigation in John Doe investigation
On Friday Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) announced the formation of a legal defense fund as a result of a John Doe criminal investigation of activities that took place during his time as county executive. Wisconsin law only permits the formation of a legal defense fund when an official “is being investigated for or charged with a violation of campaign finance laws or prohibited election practices.” The creation of the fund is an admission, even passively, that the Walker administration just acknowledged it is under investigation. Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/gov-scot...#ixzz1okQweYUq |
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biggest hypocrite on the internet? Riot for sure. |
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you have to have a form of i.d. to register to vote. so why is requiring an i.d. to actually cast a ballot an issue?
if it's ok to get it at registration, why is it not ok when election time actually gets here? how is it an infringement at the polls, but not when registering? |
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• A current and valid WI Driver License / ID Card • Any other official identification card or license issued by a Wisconsin governmental body or unit • An employee ID card with a photograph, but not a business card • A real property tax bill or receipt for the current year or the year preceding the date of the election • A residential lease (Does not count as proof of residence if elector submits form by mail) • A picture ID or fee card from a university, college or technical college • A utility bill for the period commencing not earlier than 90 days before the day registration is made • A bank statement • A paycheck If you register on election day (which you can in WI) you need a PHOTO ID and proof of address to register So you could actually register ahead of time without an ID (but not on election day). This argument against photo ID is just plain dumb, but it will be shot down again today in WI by another liberal Dane County judge |
i know they passed a federal law, i think back in 02 that said you had to have i.d. to register. and of course it isn't necessarily photo i.d. in what you said above, but you must have something to show you are who you say you are.
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personally, i don't think anyone has a worse argument than those who still insist on having creationism taught in schools. but gay marriage is right up there- and both issues no doubt fought against by the same group.
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I'm fine with hell. Most of my friends will be there.
The concept of heaven and hell is so out there that it boggles my mind just thinking about it! But that's a whole nother conversation! |
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Only my right wing friends will be there...gonna miss them...:D:D |
obama admin. blocks tx voter id law:
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-administ...161037385.html WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Obama administration on Monday blocked a new Texas law requiring voters to show photo identification before they can cast a ballot out of concerns it could harm some Hispanic voters who lack such identification. The state law approved in May 2011 required voters to show government-issued photo identification, which could include a driver's license, a military identification card, a birth certificate with a photo, a current U.S. passport, or a concealed handgun permit. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help_America_Vote_Act
Voter identification HAVA requires any voter who registered by mail and who has not previously voted in a federal election to show current and valid photo identification or a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name and address of the voter. Voters who submitted any of these forms of identification during registration are exempt, as are voters entitled to vote by absentee ballot under the Uniformed and Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting Act. voters have to show i.d. to register. so obviously all registered voters have id. so why is it so hard for them to produce said i.d. on election day?????? |
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Second Wisconsin Judge permanently blocks WI voter ID law as unconstitutional
Second Wisconsin Judge permanently blocks WI Voter ID law as unconstitutional:
Madison - A Dane County judge permanently enjoined the state's new voter ID law on Monday - the second judge in a week to block the requirement that voters show photo identification at the polls. Monday's ruling by Dane County Judge Richard Niess goes further than the one issued by another judge last week because it permanently halts the law. Tuesday's order by Dane County Judge David Flanagan blocked the law for the April 3 presidential primary and local elections, but not beyond that. The latest order may make it harder for the state to put the voter ID law into effect before the April 3 election because it would have to win two appeals in less than four weeks. Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen has asked for a stay of the earlier order, and he is expected to appeal it this week. Whether Wisconsin's photo ID law will stand is widely considered to be decided by a higher court. There are four lawsuits pending against it - two in Dane County court and two in federal court in Milwaukee. The rulings come just weeks before likely recall elections for four Republican state senators. Recall elections are also likely for Gov. Scott Walker and Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch, but they have not yet been ordered. The decision came the same day the U.S. Department of Justice blocked Texas' voter ID law, which it said would disproportionately affect Hispanic voters because they are less likely to have appropriate identification. More at http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepo...142307425.html |
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so what your saying is that not all americans have equal access to getting an ID?
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:zz: and i thank you for not quoting, greatly appreciated! |
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Will one of the proponents of implementing voting photo ID's please list all the cases of voter fraud, in the past 40-50 years, where a photo ID at the poll would have prevented fraud?
We'll wait. In other words: before making voting harder for everyone, at least show there is a problem. |
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