Walker camp is toying with the idea of not challenging the recall signatures. This way the recall can be expedited. Should be interesting to see which route they go. Either long drawn out challenge or just quick no fight certification by the GAB. It is a hard call because they want to expose the amount of fraud with the recall signatures, but it may be in their best interest to just get this over quickly and get on with the Democratic primary and election.

Even though you live in Wisconsin, Riot knows more than you do about politics there. She gets all of her info from the best propaganda sites.

You're saying that Walker, instead of not facing a recall election, would rather choose to cost the state "$9 million dollars" to hold a recall election, plus risk losing his seat?

And he says the GAB is corrupt and will allow half a million "fake" signatures through?

Wow - interesting course of action you say the Governor is considering there :D

Pretend the signatures are fake, but submit to the recall election costing the state $9 million anyway? :D

Of course the Walker camp will not challenge the recall. He's already been challenging it legally, and has GAB working more diligently, so he doesn't even have to personally pay for people cross checking signatures.

Don't you keep up with what's happening there? After all, you live there, and I do not.

Walker would have to throw nearly half a million signatures out as invalid. Not likely, considering the petition signature gatherers were trained, checked the petitions when they were signed, the petitions were cross-checked for accuracy before even being submitted (in case the Walker people who went on the internet bragging they were going to destroy petitions, be false gatherers, submit repetitive false names, etc. did get some petitions submitted)

After all, these same people have already successfully recalled two of five Republican state officials. They know how to submit valid recall petitions.

Now Walker has a recall election. His second will be recalled, too, to keep him from just appointing her if he loses. Three Senators, too.

And then, separately, one Wisconsin woman spearheaded the recall of the Senate Majority Leader, and got enough signatures. An amazing feat that One Wisconsin didn't even try to do, as they didn't think it could be done. But she did it on her own.

Falk declared, but I think it will be Barrett, he polls the best against Walker. Be sure to vote!

You mean contact with people who have actually been out collecting signatures and are involved with the process? Contact with people that live there? Yes.

I grew up in northern Illinois, have many family and friends in Wisconsin, have spent alot of time there, and I care very much what happens in Wisconsin. Both because of the people I now that live and work there, and as observation of the Koch Brothers and ALECs attempt to pass their massive and horrible legislative agenda.

If you lived there you'd realize either the Dems did a fabulous job training the homeless or your above statement is par for the course when commenting on anything WI. Total bull crap!

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Post one verified incident of a homeless person being paid to collect signatures.

We'll wait :)

Look - it's obvious by your anger that you and Wiphan hate the Democrats. But you live in a democracy. You're gonna have to realize that other people have the same rights as you do. Walker (along with Kasich, Scott) are trying plutocracies, but the people are rising up. The recall election is legal. It's the right of your fellow citizens. You are free to counter demonstrate, support Walker, contribute to him, work on his behalf. And vote in the recall election.

Considering it was a St. Norbert / WI Public Radio survey 38% of Dems support Walker. Those will be tough numbers to beat. :)

The guy that was set up about a month ago (and kicked out) of the Harpoon Willies Bar in Williams Bay. Was staying at the St Benedicts homeless shelter. See if you lived there you'd know that.

Post one verified incident of a homeless person being paid by the Democratic party to collect signatures. You say there are way more than that. Should be easy for you. Go ahead.

BTW, interfering in the collection of signature gathering for the electoral process is a felony. Please tell me how many people have been arrested and charged with felonies or misdemeanors, compared to the number of Walker people arrested and charged for attacking petition gathers, ripping up petitions or scribbling on them, destroying them, etc.

You live there, you obviously know that. Post the number.

It should be obvious by our anger that although the recall is legal, it's a bunch of sour grapes, costing millions and is largely fueled by unions outside of the State. Unions from state's like IL where unemployment is 3-4% higher and a state that ranks at the very bottom credit wise. I suppose though misery loves company.

Yes, a recall fueled by over a million signatures from citizens of Wisconsin.

In spite of Citizens United, "unions" cannot sign recall petitions, nor vote. Only you and your fellow Wisconsin citizens can do that.

You my friend never fail to amaze me. The majority of people believe that there are enough real signatures to force a recall. If there are 200,000 signatures thrown out they still have plenty. So why challenge it. Get it out of the way and continue to enact policies that are for the People of WI. Signing a recall petition is a lot easier than actually voting. Don't pretend that Walker is the one costing the state $9+ million. Next you are going to tell me that unemployment compensation creates Jobs

Barrett will lose. You should hope for Kathleen "Loser" Faulk to get the nomination, however she hasn't won in her last few tries. Don't you even know the 3rd candidate? I thought you knew everything that goes on in WI?

If you lived there you'd also realize there is an ongoing investigation pertaining to out of State union protestors lying on voter registration forms, specifcally to the question 'do you plan on remaining in the state?', using hotel addresses, and casting ballots in the last election.

I tried to do my part when we had the recall Walker bum thrown out of a private parking lot.

See, what people "believe" doesn't matter. The GAB is entering, verifying and cross-referencing the signatures to remove duplicates, fakes, those that cannot be verified to address, etc. The actual number of valid signatures will be released in 60 days when they are done.

Here is the live stream of the Government Accountability Office actually working on this, so all citizens can watch: http://mirrors.5nines.com/stream/

We'll have to wait for the election to see if Barrett does indeed lose. No, it won't be Falk (please, spell her name correctly, at least), her polling is too low, and yes, I agree she's "a loser".

There are eight people who have said they are considering running, not just three. Cullen already declared before the recall petitions were submitted.

Current polling has Barrett over Cullen.

You mean like the ongoing investigation into Scott Walker's campaign committee that has already resulted in felony arrests, while the investigation is still ongoing?

You should be sure and watch the GAB live stream. Those "homeless" and "unions" are probably ruining that, too! ;)

I was still counting the peeps on the Occupy Congress live stream. Just got to 27 but the last three might have just been tourists from Iowa.

Seriously - go watch the GAB live stream of the office. Armed guards, secret location - It's kinda neat.

"Democracy in action - some assembly required" as they wrote on the petition boxes as they turned them in.

The armed guards must be on break or gone home for the day. The fact you think it's 'kinda neat' is 'kinda sad' actually.

It's terrific. It's historic. It's democracy in action. Only twice before in this country's history have citizens been so upset with what elected governors have done to the state, that they have recalled them from office before their term was up.

Obviously, the Dems have to win the election, and/or some of the Republican recalled senators lose, to change the government.

Yes, the petitions were kept under armed guard the night before they were submitted, then GAB transferred them to a secret, guarded location. Don't you read your newspapers?

Rita, what happened to 'be impeccable with your word'?

It is an interesting twist to blame Walker for money spent on the recall election. It wasn't exactly his idea was it?

And how does one go about verifying a million signatures anyway?

By those standards, i suppose that I'm incredibly knowledgable about the politics of Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida.

There is no room for that now that she is in full blown campaign attack mode.

Dear. god. learn. to. read. I didn't blame Walker for the recall.

What I said that if Wiphans contention was true, that Walker was sure the signatures were faked, but went ahead with the election anyway, yes, then he would be responsible for spending state money on something he knew to be false.

You could go to the GAB website and find out.

wait, people are saying it's walkers fault that money has to be spent? lemme guess, the logic is that had he not done what he promised to do (a rare occurrence with pols) when running for office, and had caved to some protesters, they wouldn't have had to try to recall him?

i'm surprised they are still attempting to recall him, since most of the others 'recalled' kep their seats. not a very good roi when you compare two seats gained to money spent.

Seriously? So you are operating under the assumption that there are enough fake signatures that the recall wont happen if Walker challenges the signatures? Because if you assume that there ARE enough real or unchallengeable signatues then the recall is inevitable and the people to blame for the expense are those who called for the recall. Unless of course you are blinded by irrational hate for someone that you will never meet and hasnt really done anything to you or that will substantially affect you. Because we all know that anyone who dares mess with unions should be tarred and feathered.

http://gab.wi.gov/node/2128

For those who dont want to read through the tedious press release on the topic there is basically no way to ensure that signatures (that arent obviously false like people signing adolph Hitler) are accurate and must be individually challenged which would be a monumental and time consuming task. Walker would probably be doing the right thing not wasting more money going through a million signatures. So yeah there are probably a whole lot of fakes but it would take was too much time and money going through them which surely why the recallers came with so many signatures as well as for the PR value.

Of course some of us really believe that a million people in a mostly rural state signed a petition to recall the Gov...

:zz: No.

Geebus, effing cripes, please learn to read.

From GAB website:

No. Nobody has said that.

If you believe Walker wouldnt be sucessful in challenging the signatures than how can you say that by not challenging them he is costing the state 9 million dollars that a recall will cost???

My reading skills are good enough to see exactly what you tried to do, paint Walker in a bad light regardless of the hypocracy of your argument.

The "competing interests" hardly insure that any signature that isnt ridiclously forged. Basically they say "here are the signatures, challenge whatever you like" however what is unsaid is how exactly do you choose what signatures to challenge and due to the sheer number of signatures and monumental amount of work needed to document their legitimacy it is an impossible task to properly vet them out.

Not sure how by posing the question as a statement this isnt saying that Walker will cost the state 9 million.

Then you'd better tell the Republican judge that just ruled in the legal case the Friends of Scott Walker brought against GAB regarding petitions he's wrong.

http://bloggingblue.com/2012/01/06/w...of-bugs-bunny/

And you can tell the multiple GAB people actually checking the signatures daily, a complex and ongoing process that will take 60 days, including the additional required accuracy checks from the judge in the above lawsuit, that they are wasting their time. Because they, and the Walker camp, who just won that lawsuit regarding what accuracy checks they wanted added, thinks it's pretty well nailed down regarding the accuracy thing.

On the other hand, all the Senate recall petitions have been processed by GAB, entered into the computer data base for checking validity and cross-referencing, and have been posted (all petitions become public). Anyone may view photocopies the original signed petitions as PDF's, here.

If you see Adolf Hitler has signed, please notify the Walker Campaign immediately.

http://webapps.wi.gov/sites/recall/default.aspx

If you take the time to read the opnion piece linked you would understand why what I said is accurate.

As Kevin Kennedy, the director of the GAB, who has overseen nine recall elections in the last year alone, fielded questions about Bugs Bunny during his testimony. When one of Walker’s lawyers asked Kennedy if the GAB had counted “Bugs Bunny” as a valid signature during the Holperin recall and Kennedy replied, “yes,” he tried to explain why it was counted.
The GAB did not strike Bugs Bunny’s signature because the signature had not been challenged, and the agency can’t strike a signature without a challenge.


Going through and individually challenging hundreds of thousands of signatures would be an incredibly time consuming and expensive task.

Especially considering Walker will win. Why call timeout when you're dominating.

Which is why Walker sued and won, to have the GAB do it for him, and why there is this nice video feed of them doing exactly that right now - checking hundreds of thousands of signatures, entering them into a data base, cross checking with address and voter registration rolls - and why the petitions are posted on the internet, too, after they have been checked.

Keep up, will you? You have to know what's going on, before you can b.itch about it. You're complaining they can't do something they are actually doing right now . Which is pretty funny.

Anyone with a telephone book can get names and addresses.