Your use of smiley faces is indeed impressive, much more so than providing stupid facts and presenting a logical train of thought much less a real argument.

I just like the sound of witch boy. It is kind of a cool name

I dont believe I ever threw my religious beliefs into any discussion (whatever those beliefs may be)

I will help him out.
Port Authority has people working a troubling amount of overtime which has them making far more than their job is worth (which only matters because they are on the tax payers dole)

Some of us believe this is something that tax payers should be concerned about.

You and Riot somehow believe that our skepticism towards people whose hardest task is making change for a $20 making $80000 a year is to accuse us of being "against the middle class" or "blaming unions for everything that is wrong" or "against pensions".

In a nutshell

How can you argue/debate with people who think they are never wrong? It's a never ending battle, that's not worth the time or effort anymore.

I just find it funny that some people try to constantly discuss serious politcal points on a horse racing board (like it just never stops). The amount of material that is posted is absolutely mind blowing. It's almost like Drugs going to some Political board and wanting to have a serious discussion about speed figures in a sports room. If you have all this time and really believe in your cause, why waste it here? Wouldn't you be better off served debating people who are as devoted to politics as you are? Or is it possible, if you went in to the deep end of the pool with the real political know it all's, these people would expose you for the frauds that you are? So instead you just stay here in the kiddie pool, post constant dribble, praise Obama and the great job that he's doing and debate with people who stumbled in to a thread because Aqueduct and Gulfstream were dark.

Although I disagree with Riot on many many things, she does fight a good fight, you on the other hand seem do a pretty good job holding her purse. I'm really not sure what you bring to the table. Actually the more I think about it, you seem to play both sides on many occasions. I guess you are a true politican at heart.

You forgot about those who drive up that overtime right before retirement in order to boost those pension payouts.

Not saying you did or didn't Cannon, simply saying that one religion is the same as another.

First, 60hrs a week is not "overworking" somebody who's job it is to take money and make change. 60hrs a week could be construed as overworking somebody doing manual labor, but most manual laborers I know, would love to get 60hrs + a week.

If they did hire more toll takers and reduce the hours of the current employees, the current employees would be howling from the rooftop that they are only making a measly $60k when they are used to making over $100k.

Somehow this is being ignored in this ridiculous debate.

You're jumping to a conclusion about Cannon, but if he did feel this way, he'd be right a vast majority of the time.

Thank you for this contribution of sanity to this thread.

very true!! and it boggles the mind to see good union brothers hogging jobs rather than pushing for hires-thus increasing the amount of union members. people are all for unions when it fills their need, and against them when it doesn't. after 9-11 the mill had a temporary slowdown, and cut electricians to 32 hours. some senior guys wanted their 40, cut the junior men to 24 they said...yeah, real union-esque. :rolleyes:
my husband happened to be in a breakroom at work when some folks were griping about the $2 per pay period increase in union dues. they were outraged, and wanted to know just who agreed to that?! he said it had been discussed over a period of meetings, and then voted on, and that they should have been at the meeting to voice their opinion and make their choice.

at any rate, people making the kind of money to push their ot to those levels for toll collection is absolutely outrageous. just points yet again to the issue of govt workers making more than the private sector, which is ridiculous and makes no sense.

very true, and a lesson i learned some weeks ago...

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you would almost be amusing if you weren't so pathetic. I've got news for you. You don't pay **** for pensions. the workers pay into it every week and who gets to use the money to make more money? .....the guys who pay the pensions. Thats how it works genius. Why do you think some guys make all that money in OT ? it's because no one else will work it. most won't even consider it. Ya know why ? because the job rots your brain as well as your lungs. You try standing on the GW on a february night when it's 4 degrees out and the wind is howling. Try standing in a booth all day...6 am - 10 pm. for the ot. then rush home to sleep a couple of hours and do it again. Lets not forget all the abuse ya have to take from a bunch of "brave in their car" "half a sissies" who wouldn't dare look at you like that in the street, without catching a slap. it all looks so easy....until you try it. You wouldn't last a week out there. After the first day you'd be home crying for your mother. When was the last 16 hour day you put in ? Actually with all the whining you do, you'd probably fit right in.

Which is why it should be automated. Then you manly toll workers can stay home and watch gay porn and mma.

you might be big a bigshot in gay porn, but i doubt you are in mma

adaba baba? Me caveman ugh ugh. I r man!!

you would almost be amusing if you weren't so pathetic. I've got news for you. Gay porn workers don't get pensions. the workers do anal every week and who gets to use the lube to take more scenes? .....the guys who take it in the rear. Thats how it works genius. Why do you think some guys have bloody a.ssholes ? it's because no one can pay for the lube. most won't even consider it. Ya know why ? because the job doesn't pay s.hit and rots your bum. You try standing on a boat on a february night when it's 4 degrees out and the wind is howling and you've got three cocks in all orafices. Try standing in a studio all day...6 am - 10 pm. for the ot. then rush home to take heroin and oxies for hours and do it again. Lets not forget all the abuse ya have to take from a bunch of "well endowed black men" who wouldn't dare go balls deep like that in the street, without catching a slap. it all looks so easy....until you try it. You wouldn't last a week out there. After the first day you'd be home massaging your throat and as.shole. When was the last 16 hour day you put in ? Actually with all the submitting you do, you'd probably fit right in.

wow you really do have it tough. maybe toll collecting ain't bad after all:)

:eek:
:tro:

If you work in a toll booth then you made some life choices that got you there. If you are happy great! If not tfb.

So if we drop your name at the GW Bridge, do we get any sort of freinds and family discount?

don't insult chuck like that! he's muslim!

You believe in David Stern?

WAY TOO MUCH INFO,COACH!!

but of course. there's even favoritism in hell ya know.

These are excellent points. I rarely come over here as it is an exercise in futility in trying to argue with omniscients like Riot who think they know what is better for people than people know for themselves. She consistently stands on her soap box and talks down to others in a demeaning manner then resorts to insults when her positions are exposed.

I come here on occasion to amuse myself, but always with the caveat that it is going to be time consuming and Riot always has to have the last word. I do enjoy riling her up though it gets draining after a while.

Not any more

Though in light of the tool booth workers making Eddy Curry-like wages we may have to institute a salary cap for them

ah, set yourself free. i did a few weeks ago. it's very liberating. just go to user cp and look under miscellaneous for the road to freedom!

You are obviously wiser than I, but I am sure she will drive me to do it. It won't be long before she unleashes her wrath at me. She quickly and consistently loves to take shots at anything I post here and then plays the victim game.

Riot in 3-2-1 . . . .

This thread was made for Lovely Ritah,Metah Maid.


Ritah dahling,where are you?

Are you lighting up your metah?

Let's go girl.

this 20,000th post ought to be a doozie

wow, didn't realize it was that high. i've never paid attention to post counts. thanks for keeping up with that for me.

Sorry - I was busy laughing hysterically at the thought of poor abused you, the victim :D

So: the conclusion of the thread is that Evil Union Toll Workers, most of whom make $40-$50,000 for breathing in car fumes all day, shouldn't be allowed to work overtime to get up to $80,000 a year (even though only 27 out of 147 work those hours) or $100,000 a year (only 1 earns that much) because .... well, it's just not right!

They shouldn't be allowed to earn so much money!

Even though allowing them overtime is far cheaper than hiring more employees, even minimum wage ones. Even though their jobs are being phased out by automated lanes. They should be paid minimum wage, and no pensions! Because the taxpayer is stuck for that ... even though the worker pays the pension, not the taxpayer.

It's all the fault of the Evil Unions.

I forgot to add your constant attempt to shfit what I have said, take some time and read the thread instead of erroneously attempting to shift the debate to support your ridiculous position.

You don't really think that the Port Authority's pension is funded by employees as opposed to taxpayers, do you Rita? You don't really believe that the consistent overtime is necessary and cheaper than hiring new employees, do you Rita?

You might want to stop talking out of your azz (though I know that is the only direction that wind comes out of you) and take the New York State Comptroller's word for it instead of mine.

And he is even one of your beloved Democrats! You might want to get your little pissboy to help you to get the facts straight as well.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201...ty_toll-h.html

Hey, Rocket Scientist? The above is not a tribute to you. So no "attempt to shift what you said".

You did said, about toll workers making $40,000 - $55,000 a year: " ... catering to the unions ... these ridiculously bloated salaries and pensions that we simply cannot afford."

Yeah. Those demon toll workers, "ridiculously bloated salaries", stealin' your monies.

No, not at all, just against all the sane people who posted on this thread with intelligent comments. I suppose quoting me with your fallacious post was a clue it wasn't directed at me in any way. :rolleyes:

Enjoy reading up and getting some facts, Wile E.

Oh no! You have just been a victim of my unleashed wrath! For which I play the victim!

what is iit that you don't understand about employees contributing 9% of their gross every week toward retirement....i guess you don't pay fica...kind of the same thing for private sector folks. I think they call it social security