Bet his daughters are safe and free to marry who they want. Unlike the daughters of those wanting to build the mosque.

Is a porn store owner's freedom of speech violated when a community does not want his business?

BTW Their freedom to practice religion has never been infringed on as they have not been arrested, harmed or murdered unlike Christians in many of the countries they come from. Talk about bigotry and hate!

Interesting article on arranged marriages

http://www.professorshouse.com/Relat...lim-Religions/

a porn store owner always has freedom of speech. as for zoning laws, that's got nothing to do with speech rights.
freedom of religion on the other hand..if an area is zoned for whatever house of worship, regardless of denomination, they have every right to build there.

as for your last paragraph, that's the whole point. our country is supposed to be different, with anyone free to worship, or not worship, as they so choose-whether others like their religion or not.

"Consent of both husband and wife".

That matches what the grad students and other older Muslims I have met have said about it.

And consistent with what the 12 year old said when marrying an 80 year old. Not sure about the 5 and 8 year olds. But hey there are mature 5 year olds I'm sure.

The muslim grad students you've met are very lucky!

Here are the results of a brief search of a single newspaper.

I know your disdain for getting into peoples' personal lives but when it saves lives it has to be done.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...#ixzz1STrl6DHW

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Dell, I'm sure you're doing a great job of justifying your hatred of Muslims to yourself.

The muslim, hindu etc etc men thank you as they backhand their daughters/WIVES. Wonder what their position is on gay marriage, arrranged or not????:zz::zz:

Dell, don't you think you've spent enough time giving examples of the fact that in many cultures, especially Muslim, Hindu and Jewish, women are/have been treated as subhuman? We all get that and have many times responded with indignation....nobody on this board feels any different. But your constant hammering away at this like you're the only one who cares and suggestions that others don't is more than a little insincere. It is more than obvious that you hate Islam, good for you...but implying that others accept any type of abuse to women, anywhere, anytime has become transparent...if you are so committed to the plight of women, I can give you the sites of many organizations that work to expose and hopefully someday eliminate same. You can start by becoming a supporter of Amnesty International.

Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post has finally been the first in the major media to stand up to Herman Cain's Muslim bigotry and call him for exactly what he is.

Robinson really reams Cain out, gloves off :tro:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...hMI_story.html

Be sure you click on Ann Telnaes Herman Cain cartoon video on the lower left side of the page, too

When someone posts, "glad she'll be OK" in response to a gang sexual attack by 40 men. I don't think so.

When someone posts "I hate haters more than anything" in response to the abuse, dehumanization and murder of women. I don't think so.

If I indeed had hate for Islam why again would I care about their women? And the comparing of Jewish men's treatment of Jewish women to Muslim men's treatment of their women is Cater/Riot esque!

Amnesty International is an anti-American/Israel farce. I wouldn't give them a dime.

She is okay. Her very own words. In her television interview, she said the same things I was glad for her about - that she could have been killed, she was fortunate she wasn't. And now she has her life back.

Why you do deliberately keep saying I meant something I most certainly didn't, and that I told you was false the first time you said it? And many times since?

Wrong. I said, "I hate haters more than anything" in a response to blatant Muslim bigotry on this list.

Don't blame me for your hate, jackass. And don't lie and say I condone abuse towards women.

BTW, you don't do actual crap for Muslim or Hindu women. You just read newspapers about it. Then you quote it to justify your bigotry. And you've only recently added Hindus.

Simply recognizing there is a problem is far more than you do.

When you ignore it or even better try to justify it you become part of the problem. Good Luck with That :tro:

I didn't say you condone it. Jackass, you ignore, divert and thus allow it to continue unimpeded.

The only occasions I recall you posting anything in support of women is if/when they wanted to marry each other. :wf

Bullshit. I help abused women. You're just a Muslim bigot. You pretending to care about women is a joke. You only bring it up in a pathetic, futile effort to support your hate for Muslims. Your saying all Muslims and Hindi beat their women is just a bigoted lie by an idiot.

Enough name-calling to go around....look, Dell if you really want to decry abuse of women, don't forget the barbarity of female circumcision. A torture imposed on countless young women throughout much of Africa and other third world countries many of which are CHRISTIAN! You are a slave to your hatred of Islam and act as if it's religion and not culture that holds many women down and subjects them to abuse. In this country, how many macho young men think nothing of slipping it into a girl with the mindset that it's somehow their right while a girl who has sex with more than one guy is considered a slut. No culture is completely fair to women, sure some are worse than others but until ALL people are treated with respect and dignity, some will be killed for "honor" some will be mutilated, others tortured and others denied the equality they deserve. The path to real respect is not littered with narrow minded hatred but illuminated by the light of tolerance, love and a realization that we are ALL children of a greater god!

You don't have a clue of what I've done for abused women! Muslim or not.

Very common to attack when you have no defense. Sad you continue with your head in the sand.

And never did I say ALL Muslims and Hindus beat their women so you just did what you accuse others of. Jackass!

BTW Somer, African christians who circumcise their women are more barbaric than the animals marrying off their daughters at 12 and younger. Sickening and being tolerant of and loving them won't do shiat!!!!

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so you know Dell personally and know he doesnt do anything to help women?

Lets ban Muslims from America and re-enact slavery so Uncle Tom Cain can do some real work.


Who's with me?



Don't worry, Herman. We'll get you a "team of experts" to help you plow those fields.

And you don't have a clue of what I've done for abused women, or how I feel about the subject. So I suggest that before you freely make up crap about what you imagine other posters feel, you take your documented and repeated Muslim bigotry and hate over to Islamophobia.com

Then instead of bringing up a couple of muslim grad students you know, how about addressing the actual problem of abuse instead of dismissing its acknowledgment as some sort of racism or bigotry.

You don't give a **** about abuse of women. You only use that to justify your hatred of Muslims. It's the only time and context you bring it up. That's disgusting.

You trying to shift an attack to me, because I haven't joined in your attack on Muslims and Hindi, by making up crap about what I think, is pathetic lying bullshiat.

You might as well attack the other five hundred posters that haven't joined into your Muslim-bashing hatefest, but that understanding would be beyond your ken.

I'll take my real experiences in life talking to Muslims I know, over some hating lunatic on an internet message board whose only experience is cut and past from newspapers.

This isn't about my opinions about the international treatment of women by various cultures. It's about your repeatedly joining in to any discussion about Muslims with your reasons for hating them. And when it's pointed out by other posters disgusted and fed up with your behaviour, you try to turn the tables and make it about them. You're the one with the Muslim hating problem.

And you trying to pretend you only have concern for "their" women is laughably revealing, as your "concern" for "them" proves the point that you blindly and blanketly blame everyone of that religion for violence against women. Because all Muslims and Hindi are the same in your world of newpaper quotes and hate.

You're a fool. Five hundred other posters haven't dismissed abuse because it happens in muslim households as you have repeatedly. You're in a world all your own.

I have never repeatedly dismissed abuse of women, and you know it, you repeatedly lying bigoted jackass. How dare you sit on your high horse of self-justified hate. I suggest you read the Washington Post column about Cain's bigotry, because it fits you to a tee. You might gain a little introspection. But judging by your worsening attacks on Muslims on this board over the past three years, I doubt it. Stop deflecting and trying to make this about others - own what you are.

HAH!

This guy is a spineless bigot. He wants to leave it up to the communities? And the communities are right either way is what he's saying.

Needs to f.uck off and go back to Godfathers.

when you make idiotic posts like 'glad she'll be OK' and 'muslim women saved her' and 'women here get attacked at football games and parades' and 'you know some muslim grad students' so published reports of arranged marriages involving a 8 year old groom and 5 year old bride are BS because of what your grad students have told you?

Is dismissing abuse, Jackass!

I'm glad you deplore female circumcision, it is horrible abuse. In the end though, while we find many practices throughout the world deplorable, the answer isn't to dismiss problems as the acts of "animals". Cultures evolve slowly and treating others with respect will only help in the evolution. Absolutely we must speak out against any abuse of anyone, no matter where it happens but at the same time none of our histories are completely clean...the treatment of women, blacks and gays in our own society hasn't been something to be proud of, yet we have evolved. Hopefully someday all cultures will respect those among them that are different and will abandon their abusive past, but in the meantime, lets speak out against all abuse equally and without name calling.

:tro::tro:

I agree and admit animals is a poor choice of words.

No. They were all dismissing your previously posted bigoted Muslim-hating comments for the crap they are.

And you know, you arrogant idiot, I didn't say any of the above in the context you just put it. Never. And I've never said marriages involving young grooms were BS.

So stop lying and making up crap about what you imagine I think. Stop taking my sentence out of context and lying about their meaning. Especially when you've been told before, multiple times, you are wrong.

This isn't about me, although you are frantically trying to deflect attention from the spotlight on your comments. Your little, narrow mind can rest assured, I have cared deeply about violence towards women, no matter the source, since I was a teenage. I know you just discovered it in your quest to justify your hate towards Muslims. It's the only time you bring it up. Take it over to islamophobia.com with your friends.

You fool, you realize I was raised, since age 7 by a divorced mother who served, both as mother and father?

Yea the only interest I have in stopping women's abuse is to justify my muslim hate. :wf

You're the one who immediately justified the words of a bigot by support and joining in blanket condemnation of an entire religion based upon your ignorance and supposition, and the actions of some. The only time you bring it up is to justify hating Muslims.

Like I said, take it over to islamophobia. com with the rest of your buddies. Wear your hood.

How could you possibly know this? do you realize you are doing the exact same things you accuse him of?

its basically "i know you are but what am i"

:zz: Just going by what he's posted here over the past several years.

which means nothing

Nope. Means everything in the context we are discussing. I'm only addressing behaviour on this list. Actual words he has actually said. Over and over. He may very well be at the local Mosque every Tuesday night, leading anti-violence therapy groups.

this is crap.

you've said over and over that you know he doesnt give a crap about women. its a pretty strong and highly ridiculous assumption.


bolding text and using a British style of spelling doesnt help your case.

Fine. You think it's crap and highly ridiculous. Sorry, I don't care.

lol. you seem to care very much (in a negative way) that Dellinger cares about the health and safety of women.