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jms62 06-14-2011 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms (Post 784479)
Since they added all the non-essential races, which cannibalize the "traditional" Breeders' Cup races, there have been record numbers of entries, but not full fields (meaning 14 horses in this format).

Dude... I bet New York Graded stakes alot. A graded stake with 8 or more is a full field in my book

keithting 06-14-2011 06:54 PM

Next they'll add a Breeder's Cup Steeplechase event....

pweizer 06-14-2011 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by keithting (Post 784537)
Next they'll add a Breeder's Cup Steeplechase event....

That would actually be a more useful addition than this one.

Paul

DaTruth 06-14-2011 07:35 PM

They ought to call the new race the BC Futurity and run trials for it in late September and early October at Belmont, Calder, and Oak Tree.

Travis Stone 06-14-2011 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 784546)
They ought to call the new race the BC Futurity and run trials for it in late September and early October at Belmont, Calder, and Oak Tree.

Neat idea...

PatCummings 06-14-2011 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pweizer (Post 784542)
That would actually be a more useful addition than this one.

Paul

There already is a Breeders' Cup Steeplechase event, and it's run at Far Hills, NJ. But it is considered a BC event.

my miss storm cat 06-14-2011 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by keithting (Post 784537)
Next they'll add a Breeder's Cup Steeplechase event....

Mc Dynamo said to tell you he forgives you...

keithting 06-14-2011 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 784554)
Mc Dynamo said to tell you he forgives you...

It was a joke ! Although I'd much prefer a 2 3/4 miler on the ITC at Belmont !

my miss storm cat 06-14-2011 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by keithting (Post 784558)
It was a joke ! Although I'd much prefer a 2 3/4 miler on the ITC at Belmont !

Oh okay well I applaud your very dry delivery! :tro:

Alan07 06-15-2011 12:20 AM

With this announcement, I hope soon all 4 Juv. routes are lenghten to 1 1/8 Miles.

BTW - Over/Under on fillies in the race is 5.

Indian Charlie 06-15-2011 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 784448)
Likewise!!!!

My wit has never sparkled.

So there.

Indian Charlie 06-15-2011 01:39 AM

How about a race restricted to non BC nominated horses, surface and distance to be determined after post draw?

tanner12oz 06-15-2011 06:50 AM

an artificially muddied course is predicted in the future...The Breeders Cup slop event will be held on the newly expanded 3rd day....

in all seriousness the bc is turning into a joke...the product is being diluted

MaTH716 06-15-2011 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tanner12oz (Post 784609)
an artificially muddied course is predicted in the future...The Breeders Cup slop event will be held on the newly expanded 3rd day....

in all seriousness the bc is turning into a joke...the product is being diluted

Poly doesn't get muddy................:rolleyes:

-BT- 06-15-2011 08:54 AM

watered down



-bt-

Alan07 06-15-2011 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 784615)
Poly doesn't get muddy................:rolleyes:

Unless you're Santa Anita.

lemoncrush 06-15-2011 10:41 AM

The number of quality 2-year olds that are worthy of the Breeders Cup is already too low. Why add another race?

Soon, we'll see well-thought of maidens enter these 2-year old BC races, just like they'll occasionally do in 2-yo stakes races at Hollywood, Churchill, Calder and Belmont in the summer.

Thunder Gulch 06-15-2011 10:53 AM

I like it better than the dirt marathon race, which is basically a race for those long winded plodders not fast enough to be competitive in graded stakes.

tanner12oz 06-16-2011 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch (Post 784662)
I like it better than the dirt marathon race, which is basically a race for those long winded plodders not fast enough to be competitive in graded stakes.


race is BORING...horses are so slow they have to cut to a commercial mid race

pweizer 06-16-2011 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush (Post 784657)
The number of quality 2-year olds that are worthy of the Breeders Cup is already too low. Why add another race?

Soon, we'll see well-thought of maidens enter these 2-year old BC races, just like they'll occasionally do in 2-yo stakes races at Hollywood, Churchill, Calder and Belmont in the summer.

You might even get first time starters? Why not?

Paul

King Glorious 06-16-2011 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush (Post 784657)
The number of quality 2-year olds that are worthy of the Breeders Cup is already too low. Why add another race?

Soon, we'll see well-thought of maidens enter these 2-year old BC races, just like they'll occasionally do in 2-yo stakes races at Hollywood, Churchill, Calder and Belmont in the summer.

How many races had Giacomo and Mine that Bird won prior to the Derby? Unaccomplished horses win our classic races on a regular basis so a maiden winning this wouldn't be so horrible.

Indian Charlie 06-16-2011 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 785027)
How many races had Giacomo and Mine that Bird won prior to the Derby? Unaccomplished horses win our classic races on a regular basis so a maiden winning this wouldn't be so horrible.

You'd probably add that horse to your signature.

ellpol 06-16-2011 03:37 PM

I must be dense what could be bad about another good race to bet. Isn't this supposed to be fun.

King Glorious 06-16-2011 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 785052)
You'd probably add that horse to your signature.

Or even change my user name to that horse's name. You never know.

Slewbopper 06-16-2011 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 784410)
I have to say, I still wish the BC was one day...I guess I'm the only one left.

I agree. The F&M turf was a good addition IMO.....they should have stopped there. What's next? The Juvy Filly Turf Sprint?

miraja2 06-16-2011 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ellpol (Post 785055)
what could be bad about another good race to bet.

It will probably dilute the talent in the existing BCJ race, just as the BC dirt mile dilutes the talent in both the Sprint and the Classic.

PatCummings 06-16-2011 05:29 PM

Here's a stat...

While racing handle is, in general, down significantly each of the last five years, handle on the "top 10 races" outside of the Breeders' Cup is up 15% over the same period. Handle on the "top 400 races" is up 3%.

Honestly, I don't know how those races are defined, but I'm presuming it's a compilation of many stakes races compared to previous numbers. Higher quality racing is doing quite well, while the lower end, the day-to-day grinders, aren't cutting the mustard. Racing is oversupplied.

Travis Stone 06-16-2011 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatCummings (Post 785081)
Here's a stat...

While racing handle is, in general, down significantly each of the last five years, handle on the "top 10 races" outside of the Breeders' Cup is up 15% over the same period. Handle on the "top 400 races" is up 3%.

Honestly, I don't know how those races are defined, but I'm presuming it's a compilation of many stakes races compared to previous numbers. Higher quality racing is doing quite well, while the lower end, the day-to-day grinders, aren't cutting the mustard. Racing is oversupplied.

Sounds like you attended a shareholders meeting.

Alan07 06-18-2011 01:14 PM

I heard the Breeders' Cup is negotiating to put it's races on the Loony Tunes network. :rolleyes:

Dunbar 06-18-2011 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 784413)
Must be a Jersey thing.

Nah, count this Pennsylvanian in that camp, too. Maybe it's a mid-Atlantic thing?

--Dunbar


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