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Sightseek 03-29-2011 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 764460)
Or Vol Jack..

But that's OK...I'll just continue to troll his tweets.

Change your profile picture to a 20ish blonde waitress.

VOL JACK 03-29-2011 08:35 PM

I do have a nice set of sausage tits.

NTamm1215 03-29-2011 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 764461)
Change your profile picture to a 20ish blonde waitress.

Is he sending Tiger Woods a friend request?

Indian Charlie 03-29-2011 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 764456)
I wouldn't want you to feel like something you're not......special.

If it makes you feel better, I never friended RockHardTen either.

You really don't think he's special? You sure treat him like he is a special person.

Deservedly so.

miraja2 03-30-2011 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 764437)
Justin Dew now has a spokesman?

Yep....he hired me a few weeks ago.
I thought stating that everything he says isn't "automatically wrong" just because he is the one saying it was a nice, conservative way to get started on the job.

I guess not. Too much too soon.

Perhaps I should have started even more conservatively and said something like..."hey he's bound to be at least partially right one of these days, right?" Either way, I plan to execute this assignment so wonderfully that DrugS is facebooking him for handicapping tips by the middle of June.

miraja2 03-30-2011 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 764445)
The gripe is clearly with the wording "complete wild card". The horse is hardly that. Santiva has enough of a relevant race record to go on if he were to make the Kentucky Derby field.

I don't necessarily disagree, and this horse doesn't strike me as a likely Derby contender. And you are right that calling him a "complete" wild card was probably a bit of an overstatement by my client.
But I still think the point about a horse who appears as if he might possibly be an improving 3yo on dirt making his last derby prep over synthetic being something of an unknown quantity if he runs in the Derby is a reasonable enough point.

RolloTomasi 03-30-2011 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 764572)
I don't necessarily disagree, and this horse doesn't strike me as a likely Derby contender. And you are right that calling him a "complete" wild card was probably a bit of an overstatement by my client.
But I still think the point about a horse who appears as if he might possibly be an improving 3yo on dirt making his last derby prep over synthetic being something of an unknown quantity if he runs in the Derby is a reasonable enough point.

"Might" be improving? As was pointed out (by the same poster who seems to be completely perplexed by the horse's form), the horse went from a 78 Beyer in his final 2yo start to a 91 in his 3yo debut.

I suppose an open length victory, in a major prep race, on a natural dirt surface, with a triple digit Beyer will ram the point home; but what would that do to the horse's price on Derby Day?

Kasept 04-02-2011 03:52 PM

Jaycito staying home for Santa Anita Derby..
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...source=twitter

SANTA ANITA DERBY -- Probables

Premier Pegasus
Comma to the Top
Silver Medallion
Anthony's Cross
Bench Points
Indian Winter
Mr. Commons
Offlee Wild Boys
Celestic Night
Quail Hill
Jaycito

Scav 04-02-2011 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 765411)
Jaycito staying home for Santa Anita Derby..
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...source=twitter

Interesting!

Hmmmmm

An update, Son of Posse is going into the Wood to screw that race up, per the Parx FB page and the owners FB page. Dude has lost his mind

Kasept 04-04-2011 11:05 AM

WOOD MEMORIAL

Uncle Mo
Norman Asbjornson
Duca
Isn’t He Perfect
Toby's Corner (IL Derby but most likely here)

Full of Scoundrels (Possible)
Son of Posse (Possible)
Arthur's Tale (Possible)
Preachintothedevil (Possible)
Starship Caesar (Possible)

Rattlesnake Bridge (Jerome)



SANTA ANITA DERBY

Premier Pegasus
Comma to the Top
Silver Medallion
Anthony's Cross
Bench Points
Indian Winter
Mr. Commons
Offlee Wild Boys
Celestic Night
Quail Hill
Jaycito
Surrey Star (Possible)



ILLINOIS DERBY

Joe Vann
Lagoon of Diamonds
Smarter Than Ever
Sour
Southern Sculptor
Dance City
Economic Summit
The Fed Eased (Bay Shore)
Watch Me Go (Arkansas Derby)
Toby's Corner (Wood)



ARKANSAS DERBY

Archarcharch
Bretheren
Astrology
Nehro
The Factor
Caleb's Posse
Sway Away
Alternation
J P's Gusto
J W Blue
Elite Alex

Truman's Commander (Possible)



BLUE GRASS

Data Link
Crimson China
Santiva
Willcox Inn
Monzon
Jakesam
Joe's Blazing Aaron
Queen'splatekitten
King Congie (Lexington)
Swift Warrior
Powhattan County



LEXINGTON

King Congie (Blue Grass)
Twinspired



JEROME

Rattlesnake Bridge (Wood)
Cal Nation
Dominus (Derby Trial)



DERBY TRIAL

Dominus (Jerome)
Travelin Man



KENTUCKY DERBY

Pants On Fire
Twice the Appeal
Mucho Macho Man
Decisive Moment
Dialed In
Shackleford
Soldat
To Honor and Serve
Master of Hounds (Possible)
Animal Kingdom (Possible)

asudevil 04-04-2011 12:51 PM

C'mon Sour!!!

lemoncrush 04-04-2011 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 765960)
[color="Blue"][size="4"]


ILLINOIS DERBY

Joe Vann
Lagoon of Diamonds
Smarter Than Ever
Sour
Southern Sculptor
Dance City
Economic Summit
The Fed Eased (Bay Shore)
Watch Me Go (Arkansas Derby)
Toby's Corner (Wood)


Seriously....? Shouldn't the Illinois Derby either lose its graded status, or be moved to Arlington during the summer or...something?

I can't believe anyone pointing to the SA Derby or AK derby didn't think twice about shipping here for this spot. Even Anthony's Cross (didn't Harty win it last year with the legendary American Lion)?

slotdirt 04-04-2011 12:56 PM

Will this the year the Blue Grass mercifully loses its GI status?

randallscott35 04-04-2011 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 765993)
Will this the year the Blue Grass mercifully loses its GI status?

They'll never do it...After yesterday, maybe the Florida Derby should as well.

slotdirt 04-04-2011 01:12 PM

I can't remember what turf writer suggested in a column/article last year that only dirt graded earnings should count for Derby entrance, but I'm all for it. Then again, a gang of money was plowed into Stately Victor last year, which isn't entirely a bad thing.

paulo537 04-04-2011 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush (Post 765992)
Seriously....? Shouldn't the Illinois Derby either lose its graded status, or be moved to Arlington during the summer or...something?

I can't believe anyone pointing to the SA Derby or AK derby didn't think twice about shipping here for this spot. Even Anthony's Cross (didn't Harty win it last year with the legendary American Lion)?

Which race, the Illinois Derby, Santa Anita Derby or Wood, has most recently seen it's winner come back to win the Ky Derby?

It's 5 weeks out from the Derby. The last two years, the consensus favorite didn't make the gate.

And horses can come from anywhere and get real good real fast. If it weren't for Rachel A, Dunkirk and Summer Bird, Mine That Bird might be a Triple Crown winner.

What about Shackelford?

I like all the preps. Line them up and let them run.

Scav 04-04-2011 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemoncrush (Post 765992)
Seriously....? Shouldn't the Illinois Derby either lose its graded status, or be moved to Arlington during the summer or...something?

I can't believe anyone pointing to the SA Derby or AK derby didn't think twice about shipping here for this spot. Even Anthony's Cross (didn't Harty win it last year with the legendary American Lion)?

Its only 300k, so winning the race doesn't guarantee you a spot in the Derby.

It will be a bad race

LARHAGE 04-04-2011 02:12 PM

I know I may be reaching here, but after one dismal prep after another, is it even remotely possible the Arkansas Derby will be the best prep? :o

knickslions2 04-04-2011 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LARHAGE (Post 766011)
I know I may be reaching here, but after one dismal prep after another, is it even remotely possible the Arkansas Derby will be the best prep? :o

Ya but the Wood has the derby winner in it :)

Travis Stone 04-04-2011 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LARHAGE (Post 766011)
I know I may be reaching here, but after one dismal prep after another, is it even remotely possible the Arkansas Derby will be the best prep? :o

Not that I think he has a chance (at this point), but The Factor's triple-digit Beyers are somewhat refreshing when looking through the 30 or so top contenders.

Mike 04-04-2011 04:36 PM

If some ailment were to sideline Uncle Mo between now and the Derby... wouldn't that make for an interesting scenario? A lot of $$$ would be on Dialed In (who would come in a fast closing 2nd or 3rd) and The Factor would have to be a super horse to contend with the pretenders that would hound him all the way on the lead. Who, then:zz:

Indian Charlie 04-04-2011 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 766109)
If some ailment were to sideline Uncle Mo between now and the Derby... wouldn't that make for an interesting scenario? A lot of $$$ would be on Dialed In (who would come in a fast closing 2nd or 3rd) and The Factor would have to be a super horse to contend with the pretenders that would hound him all the way on the lead. Who, then:zz:

Premier Pegasus.

paulo537 04-04-2011 04:46 PM

Tackleberry.

The first to pull off the elusive Charles Town Classic - Met Mile sweep.

lord007 04-04-2011 08:18 PM

Im looking forward to seeing ArchArchArch run again...growing on me a little bit

Mike 04-04-2011 09:36 PM

Baffert's Midnight Interlude to run in the S.A. Derby.

Great name, used to be a sex club in NYC

lord007 04-07-2011 08:26 PM

Premier Pegasus...OUT!!!!!

Indian Charlie 04-07-2011 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lord007 (Post 767007)
Premier Pegasus...OUT!!!!!

Shoot!

What happened?

Dahoss 04-07-2011 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 767017)
Shoot!

What happened?

Jaycito scared him off.

Indian Charlie 04-07-2011 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 767020)
Jaycito scared him off.

Well, as long as he wasn't hurt, I'm glad.

How come this wasn't reported anywhere?

lord007 04-07-2011 10:36 PM

Hairline fracture...report is on bloodhorse

Indian Charlie 04-07-2011 11:53 PM

Hossy!!!

That little fugger lied to me.

Indian Charlie 04-07-2011 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lord007 (Post 767042)
Hairline fracture...report is on bloodhorse

By the way, is he going to recover in time for the Derby?

Alan07 04-08-2011 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 767055)
By the way, is he going to recover in time for the Derby?

Out for 4 months.

Indian Charlie 04-08-2011 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan07 (Post 767057)
Out for 4 months.

For a fracture!?

That's ridiculous!

Back in the day, that horse would have been laid up a week or two, aimed to the Derby Trial, and wheeled right back!

Kasept 04-11-2011 06:59 PM

Latest Blue Grass & Arky Derby probables..
 
ARKANSAS DERBY

Archarcharch
Bretheren
Astrology
Nehro
The Factor
Caleb's Posse
Sway Away
Alternation
J P's Gusto
J W Blue
Elite Alex
Saratoga Red
Truman's Commander
Dance City



BLUE GRASS

Data Link
Crimson China
Santiva
Willcox Inn
Wilkinson
Joe's Blazing Aaron
Queen'splatekitten
King Congie
Swift Warrior
Powhattan County
Brilliant Speed
Praetereo
Newsdad

RolloTomasi 04-11-2011 07:46 PM

Is Astrology still in the Arkansas Derby? I didn't see his name in an article on the race, and you don't have him on the graded earnings list as going.

If he does run, at gets a Beyer of over 90, I'm pretty sure he's the Kentucky Derby winner. The middle move followed by the hang job in the Sunland Park Derby was a dead give away.

Will have to contend with R Heat Lightning, however.

Mike 04-11-2011 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 768205)
Is Astrology still in the Arkansas Derby? I didn't see his name in an article on the race, and you don't have him on the graded earnings list as going.

If he does run, at gets a Beyer of over 90, I'm pretty sure he's the Kentucky Derby winner. The middle move followed by the hang job in the Sunland Park Derby was a dead give away.

Will have to contend with R Heat Lightning, however.

I'm following Astrology closely, wish I knew if he were in the Ark. Derby, he did have a 5 furlong workout at S.A in 1:00 and 4/5th's today. If he doesn't go this Saturday in the Ark. Derby, at least this gives hope he's still on the Derby trail and will prep in a different race

Danzig 04-11-2011 09:29 PM

from drf on the arkansas derby:

http://www.drf.com/news/arkansas-der...ng-13-starters


HOT SPRINGS, Ark. – Alternation on Monday was committed to the Grade 1, $1 million Arkansas Derby – making for a prospective field of 13 – while a little later the same morning probables Brethren, Dance City and Truman’s Commander arrived in town from Florida.

The Arkansas Derby will be run on Saturday, on the final card of the Oaklawn Park meet. Entries for the race are Wednesday. The maximum field size is 14. Others expected to start as of Monday were Archarcharch, Caleb’s Posse, Elite Alex, J P’s Gusto, J W Blue, Nehro, Saratoga Red, Sway Away, and The Factor.

arizonadave 04-11-2011 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 766018)
Not that I think he has a chance (at this point), but The Factor's triple-digit Beyers are somewhat refreshing when looking through the 30 or so top contenders.

I like Archarcharch in the Arkansas Derby.He finished well, behind The Factor and is bred to run a bit.

RolloTomasi 04-11-2011 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arizonadave (Post 768252)
He finished well behind The Factor

The whole field was well behind The Factor in the Rebel.


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